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Turkish President Erdogan to visit India in May, 2017

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...fear-action/article17591392.ece?homepage=true


The President is scheduled to visit India in May.

India-based Turkish political activists have expressed concern that during his upcoming visit, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan might ask India to act against them.

Speaking to The Hindu, a Turkish activist in the capital confirmed that many India-based Turkish citizens were afraid of returning home as the government of President Erdogan might detain them.

Some of the Turkish citizens living in India have alleged discriminatory treatment at the Turkish missions in India.

Consular treatment
“Those Turkish citizens who oppose the government of President Erdogan have felt that the Turkish consular officials do not wish to extend full support to their needs and often advise them to go back home to complete paperwork. Such actions create suspicion that Ankara wants us to return where it can then detain us,” said a Delhi-based civil liberty activist from Turkey.

The Hindu had reported earlier that President Erdogan is scheduled to visit India in the first week of May.

Turkey’s previous Ambassador to India, Burak Agcapar, had asked for action against Gulenist institutions following the July 16, 2016, coup. “They have a presence in various Indian cities. We expect Indian government to curb their activities. We had consultations with Indian government and will now follow up. We have passed all information to the Ministry of External Affairs,” Mr. Agcapar told a group of journalists in July following the coup.

Gulen network
Turkey has been asking countries around the world to act against the network of Sufi leader Fethullah Gulen, who it accuses to be the force behind the coup. During his visit from August 18 to 2 last year, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu urged India to ban the organisations that promote Hizmet, the philosophy of global peace championed by Gulen.

Gulen’s organisation and his supporters — both Turkish and Indian — run several schools and charity organisations in India. Turkey believes that such organisations in other parts of the world were used for plotting the coup, and can be used to undermine the government of President Erdogan. Turkey’s problem with the Hizmet network has prompted several arrests of non-resident Turkish citizens including Serken Golge, a scientist working with NASA. An unofficial crackdown following the visit of President Erdogan in Pakistan has similarly led to the deportation of several Turkish citizens, including teachers employed in Gulenist schools in Pakistan.

The visit in May will be Mr. Erdogan’s second to India in a decade. He last visited in 2008 as Prime Minister. His planned 2015 visit was cancelled following political protests in Turkey.
 
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I usually won't disagree
Erdogan seems too much of a nutcase to deal with

We should stick to our usual style of foreign policy; if he can favour us where we have concerns, then we should back him where he wants our help.

How does it matter where he is a democrat or a sultan as long as we both can mutually benefit?

Though personally, I don't admire his governing style but I am not a Turk and it doesn't impact me.

“Those Turkish citizens who oppose the government of President Erdogan have felt that the Turkish consular officials do not wish to extend full support to their needs and often advise them to go back home to complete paperwork. Such actions create suspicion that Ankara wants us to return where it can then detain us,” said a Delhi-based civil liberty activist from Turkey.

That's some serious targeting.

I am surprised that a Turk would go against his fellow countryman in another country.
 
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We should stick to our usual style of foreign policy; if he can favour us where we have concerns, then we should back him where he wants our help.

How does it matter where he is a democrat or a sultan as long as we both can mutually benefit?

Though personally, I don't admire his governing style but I am not a Turk and it doesn't impact me.



That's some serious targeting.

I am surprised that a Turk would go against his fellow countryman in another country.

Erdogan has polarized Turkey in a way I have not seen in a democracy
He is order or two magnitude more polarizing than Modi who Pakistanis try to paint as being a terrorist
 
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Erdogan has polarized Turkey in a way I have not seen in a democracy
He is order or two magnitude more polarizing than Modi who Pakistanis try to paint as being a terrorist

PM Modi doesn't polarise; so far he has managed to clearly filter out the scum politicians from the hardworking ones and that is actually what the left-liberal media elites call 'polarisation'. You don't see PM Modi mangling down the presidential chair, getting opposition party leaders killed, install puppets in the cabinet or the military or simply destroy entire civil societies in one blow.

On the contrary, what Erdogan is doing is downright blasting all the institutions in the Turkish society and polity. He weakened his military chiefs, eliminated all the opposition, changed the structure of governance (from PM to Presidential format), silenced criticism and as if all that wasn't enough caused enough havoc to Turkey's foreign relations with entire West and Russia than anything else.

It makes me wonder if RTE actually was planted by Greek intelligence to wreck Turkey from within.

Personally speaking, my experience in Turkey (long before all this madness started) was very pleasant. The Turkish society is very open minded, warm-hearted and modern. You could literally see people living as people and not as people of a specific religion or otherwise.

Law and order was excellent, women would walk safely around, excellent tourism product, economy doing very well, infrastructure is amazing in most parts of their country and what not.

RTE just had to screw everything that Ataturk built.

First UAE Prince, then Turkey Pres, then KSA King......No comment from western neighbours?:D

Apparently its all a conspiracy against them.

But yeah, Turkey is an important country and a partner to engage. Their economy is good and we must take a mutually beneficial path.
 
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knowing Erdogan it wouldnt surprise me if embarrasses Modi and talks about Indian illegally occupied Kashmir in the pressers.

watch the space
 
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First UAE Prince, then Turkey Pres, then KSA King......No comment from western neighbours?:D

No comment is required. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan's links are deep. Same goes with Turkey. I saw no comments from you when Saudi , Turkish and Chinese troops participated in Pakistan Day military parade.
 
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There should be a physical application who prevents users commenting about a country specially if you don't live in..
Or better let media lead you to whereever makes you feel a badass analyst :D Turkey is ok and will be ok with Erdoğan, let us worry about our future on our own ;)
 
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Erdogan has polarized Turkey in a way I have not seen in a democracy
He is order or two magnitude more polarizing than Modi who Pakistanis try to paint as being a terrorist
He has destroyed the power held by secularists/military. The great work done by ataturk has been tarnished.
But Turks are smart folk. They will bounce back.
 
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First UAE Prince, then Turkey Pres, then KSA King......No comment from western neighbours?:D

Congrats :) Now your gas should be at ease since a friendliest sworn western neighbour like me congratulated you on the development.
 
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Stupid decision. We really don't need relations with Turkey till they can get their heads screwed on right.
 
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There are checks & balance in system to prevent that.

Off course, trade relations are very complicated. No FTA is 100% comprehensive. For instance, there could be products that aren't included in a potential FTA between India and EU. That's why New Delhi perhaps even demands/agrees to a tailor-made FTA with Turkey because the Indian gov't and companies are sure that the export to Turkey of some special products made in India could significantly rise due to a new bilateral trade agreement. It is also possible that Indian companies are interested in purchasing certain products made in Turkey. So it could be in the interest of India to abolish customs duties. Less tariffs means greater trade -> cheaper products for consumers.

There are many other points here. For example, FTAs often include investor protection laws.

What happens if India and EU can't agree on a trade agreement?

In this scenario, Indian companies could use Turkey as a gate to enter the European market. Because they simply and easily could use a Turkish-Indian FTA to sell their products to Europe thanks to the Turkish-EU customs union.

Trade talks and agreements are often very complicated. To estimate the impact is difficult.
 
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