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Turkish President Arrives in Pakistan

@MAd Dog I tried to list some information which is'nt emotional but true. China is an ally but never publicly supported Pakistan on Kashmir issue even on OBOR map, they did'nt put Pakistan on the map to insert india in that plan to appease them, which did'nt happen. Did'nt see Turkey do that. China is important for Pakistan no doubt and its Pakistan's fault not to take much advantage of that due to our lacklustre approach where countries and leader like Erdogan support us despite of that which we should acknowledge as matter of common sense not emotionalism.

@NomanAli89 Musharraf era when US and Western states tried to block investment opportunities by issuing traavel advisories, the govt. kept an open door policy for foreign investment which brought lot of agendas and interests paying the locals to do the needful. A former CIA station agent was involved in building of Geo channel infrastructure and helped them constitute most of their 24/7 news formulations. NGOs like sri sri ravi Art of Living and other women-related were also instituted since then. After 2008 most of the regulation went away and zardari era brough ta lot of these foreign funded interest into Pakistan. Journalist Rauf Klasra who i believe is british national also got prominenece, people who were told to lie to the public and do diversions, when Pakistan food inflation jumped and economy shrunk.

These people Mosharraf Zaidi, Hasan Nisar, Klasra, SAFMA's Imtiaz Ahmed [SAFMA a SAARC related org. was accused by Imran Khan as RAW made group] are some of the pro-indians with the Mir brothers Hamid Mir and Amir Mir. Amir Mir was someone I was introduced to after reading indian publications and the pathetic criticism filled with untruths that he did
to compel the notion most of indian and US are rite about Pakistan,a kind of cultural terrorism. TheEnglish dail Express Tribune is probably the worst as it not only copy/paste indian fake news without confirmation but tries to cover any viral news rite or wrong that is brolen on internet and it has pro-foreign bias related to US/India and West.

Then there are pro-Iran on social media mixed with liberals who defend Iran, believe does'nt do any wrong [now add Iraq to that list]. Minority Sunnis are executed in Iran for converting zikris and shias, IRanian law enmity with God act, but you won't see these reports in Pakistani media ever. There is No sunni mosque in Tehran Their worldview means to make Pakistan feel isolated and look inward, that is the basis of their criticism and they hate Saudi Arabia. Support for sectarian shias like Faisal Abidi or the raising of Yemen as humanitarian issue when those humans shia group Houthis displaced the local govt. and occupied parts of Yemen. All in all there is zero opposition towards them that has made them more powerful and people are scared to discuss about them which is dangerous for Pakistan and there are more embarassments to come for Pakistan which they thru social media and paid media like Tribune.
 
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Erdogan and Pakistan

IF there is a foreign leader who has stood with Pakistan thru thick and think, its Prime Min. now Pres. Erdogan. As I dtated earlier Pakistan had emotional ties with Turkey which did'nt translate much due to the geographical distance as well as different regional interests, approaches between us still Turkey always tried to propose economic ties with Pakistan thru the funding and building of RCD highway in collaboration with Iran. When 2005 Earthquake happened Turkey before China sent its rescue missions to aid Pakistan. Still remember Turk ambassador to Pak saying 'we hope we don't fail the people of Pakistan the way they helped us in our independence' and 'we'll take care of our Pakistani brothers' never heard such words from an ambassador of any other country incl. our so-called allies China, Afghanistan and then US for whom we bled ourselves.

When western nations were raising questions on how the disaster relief will be spent Turkey led by Erdogan again came forward and did fundraisers whereas in Pak continued their medical camps in Kashmir and Balakot. A Turkish medic lost his life in accident during participation in the rescue& rehab effort in Kashmir, he was later awarded with Pakistan state civilian honour by Gen. Musharraf.

After huge outflow of cash with era of Zardari govt., the only country and investors that continued in Pakistan was again Turkey. Alternative energy Wind mills zorlu energy to rental power plant ship sent on request by Zardari govt. When other foreign airlines panning exit like Malaysian airlines, Turkish Airlines jumped in and decided to base their flights from Pakistan. When Pak appliances manufacturer Dawlance owner put his stake to be purchased, no other multinational bothered again Turkish giant Arcelik came to help and purchased the stake. When Peshawar army school was attacked and schoolcildren Pres. Erdogan & Min. Davutoglu announced a day of mourning in Turkey tp consemn the attack against pak schoolchildren again unprecedented.

Span of events show Turkey without any FTA or bilateral investment treaty and discouragement of powers like US and others continued to support not to let PAkistan get 'isolated'.

Diplomatic

Erdogan is probably the only world leader that is more vocal for Pakistan interests than Pakistani leaders themselves, whether its Kashmir or the hanging of jamaat leaders in Bangladesh with Bangladesh calling them Pakistanis rajakaars to execute them, Erdogan withdrew his ambassador upon this blame. On Kashmir many incl. Imran Khan don't have guts to speak about the issue or the LOC, it was Erdogan who not only expressed solidarity with Kashmiri people but also addressed the suffering of Pakistanis living on the LOC in Azad kashmir and Sialkot. India is a big market for Turkey also and Turkey under Erdogan has transformed economically to a powerhouse, but Erdogan did'nt care unlike our politicians, leaders as well as shameless media.
Compare this to Pakistan still crawling on the issue of Feto schools when Turkey had assured back in July that schools functioning will continue with Maarif foundation. They were'nt allowed to take over from the Gulenist Staff and our western backed paid media journos continued to circulate rumors Pakturk schools will be closed, the Nawaz Sharif govt. had to take action before Erdogan visit which he did and I hope the people protesting don't embarass themselves and Pakistan any further.

Pakistan has dragged its feet with everyone including Erdogan, it needs to improve its functions get over the infighting (like this stupid move by imran khan not sending his CM Khattak to be present in the parliament), take action against foreighn funded NGOs, rumor mills called Pak media working for different agendas and being paid for it. Pakistan needs to move with an FTA with Turkey and get a investment treaty to improve the FDI esp. from most time tested ally brother kardesh Erdogans and Turkey.

Your posts are quite knowledgeable and interesting...Keep it up, sir.
 
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