Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[Ahiska]

I hate when I see non-Muslims are talking about Muslim countries's internal affairs. Mod should ban all of them from this section.

One of the dumbest thing i heard on this forum (And i saw a lot of dumb things here)

 

[IR-TR]

Bekliyorum hala ...

Sen git bakkaldan sigara al babana, bilgisayardan biraz uzaklas.

 

[Solomon2]

Erdogan's Dream: The Sultan Rules
by Burak Bekdil
The Gatestone Institute
May 16, 2015

In 2015, Erdogan unveiled an entourage of 16 costumed "warriors" at his new presidential palace, representing various Turkic empires throughout history.

It is election time in Turkey. On June 7, the Turks will go to the ballot box to elect a government and a prime minister who will rule the country for four years.

In reality, they will go to the ballot box to decide whether they want an elected Sultan or not.

Turkey's President, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, wants more than just to win a parliamentary majority for his Justice and Development Party (AKP). He wants a two-thirds majority, so that the constitution can be amended to introduce an executive presidential system and the Sultan can once again officially rule.

In 2013, Burhan Kuzu, the AKP's chairman of the parliament's Constitution Commission, compared the U.S. presidency to the broad powers of Turkey's prime minister (who at the time was Erdogan),saying, "Obama is a poor man, the Prime Minister is powerful."


More recently, during a press briefing after a state visit to Kazakhstan, Erdogan told a group of Turkish journalists on April 18: "Look now. Obama cannot get decisions done."

Erdogan is not happy with the powers the Turkish constitution grants him.​

It was just another line with which he expressed his obsession to transform Turkey's parliamentary democracy into an executive presidential system "a la Turca," in which an elected man runs a one-man show with no checks and balances.

The powers the Turkish president has do not satisfy Erdogan. He is the strongman, but he wants more. He wants almost unlimited powers: He wants to be the democratically elected Sultan of a supposed emerging Turkish empire.

Despite constitutional articles that require the president to be non-partisan in domestic politics, Erdogan has been running from one public rally to another bashing opposition parties and praising the ruling AKP's "success stories" since the party came to power over 12 years ago.

Erdogan constantly says that he wants 400 MPs. He does not say for which party he wants 400 MPs. He does not have to -- everybody knows. It is the first time a Turkish president, supposedly non-partisan according to the constitution, tours the whole country in support of a political party.

367 parliamentary votes are required to pass a constitutional amendment without a referendum.​

Turkey has a 550-seat legislature. Any party (or parties in coalition) that wins 276 seats can form a government. But 330 votes are required to bring a constitutional amendment to referendum, and 367 to pass a constitutional amendment in parliament without a referendum. The AKP is fighting not for 276 seats to form a single-party government but, under the shadow of Erdogan, for at least 330 to make him an elected Sultan.

All opinion polls, including the opposition's, put the AKP into the lead. Although it is almost certain that the AKP will be the winner, it may yet be the loser. If a pro-Kurdish party, the People's Democracy Party (HDP) can pass the 10% electoral threshold to enter parliament, the AKP's 40% to 45% majority will only win anywhere from 280 to 310 seats, thus unable to change the constitution in line with the Sultan's wishes.

In 2013, the Economist ran a montage of Erdogan and Ottoman Sultan Selim III on its cover to illustrate his growing autocratic tendencies.

Therefore, the key to understanding the aftermath of the June 7 election is to watch the HDP's performance. If it fails to win 10% of the national vote, it will get no seats in parliament, and most of the seats it would have won will be AKP's – courtesy of the Turkish electoral system.

With the same percentage of votes, the AKP can win 280 or 330 seats depending on whether the Kurdish party makes it into parliament or not, and thus fail or succeed in amending the constitution for an "a la Turca" presidency. Unfair? Not in a country where justice is mere triviality.

Erdogan has won nine elections since 2002 – three parliamentary, three municipal, two referenda and one presidential. But he is not happy with the powers the Turkish constitution grants him. He wants more. He wants to be Turkey's elected Sultan. He does not want to be a "poor Obama." He wants, as he says, "to get decisions done." Once he has given orders, there should not be judicial, constitutional or parliamentary checks and balances. His decisions should get done -- just like a Sultan's.

Ottoman sultans did not get elected. If Erdogan wins, Turkey will be even more polarized and increasingly less manageable: he will be the president not of the whole country, but less than half of the Turks, with the other half hating him more than ever. If he fails, an in-house fight within AKP will probably break out, with many unhappy but so far silent AKP political figures starting to fire in every direction.

June 7 is all or nothing for Erdogan. He will either be the solitary man living in an isolated presidential palace in Ankara, hands tied by constitutional restrictions, still dreaming of a ballot-box sultanate, or he will become the first ballot-box Sultan of the Turkish Empire of his dreams.

Burak Bekdil, based in Ankara, is a columnist for the Turkish daily Hürriyet and a fellow at the Middle East Forum.​

 

[Turkish_FR]

Erdoğan: (Diyanet İşleri Başkanı Mehmet Görmez’in makam aracı ile ilgili tartışmaların sorulması üzerine) Bir kere o Mercedes’in iddia ettikleri gibi 1 milyon TL falan olması için zırhlı falan olması lazım. O tür normal Mercedes’lerin fiyatları 300-320 bin TL civarındadır. Kaldı ki artık eski dönemlerde değiliz. O tür araçlara artık herkes binebiliyor.

Görmez arabadan inip evine yaya olarak gitmiş | Fikret Bila | Milliyet.com.tr

Vay yawrum vay.....ben niye binemiyorum acaba o tür araçlara ??? Yoksa herkes derken acaba devletin malını, parasını sömüren kendisi ve saz ekibinden mi bahsediyor acaba ???

Hadi biz devletin parasını sömüre sömüre dünyanın en hızlı büyüyen ekonomilerinden birisi olduk. Siz devletin parasını bunca yıl ne yaptınız söylesene ? Bayrak ipi mi yaptınız ?

Bu araçların fiyatları 1 milyon lira değildir. Genelde şirket üzerine alınır bu araçlar ve şirket olarak devlete ödediğin vergiyi şirket adına aldığın araçların ÖTV'sinden düşersin, yani 400.000 Liraya almış olursun. Devlet zaten 400.000 Liradan alır.

 

[-SINAN-]

Hadi biz devletin parasını sömüre sömüre dünyanın en hızlı büyüyen ekonomilerinden birisi olduk. Siz devletin parasını bunca yıl ne yaptınız söylesene ? Bayrak ipi mi yaptınız ?

Sana Cumhuriyet tarihinden beri Türkiye'nin GDP büyümesini, tablolarla anlatır, önceki dönemlerde temeli atılmış ekonomi politikalarından bahsederdim....ama o kadar cahilsin ki...boşa zaman israfi yapmış olurum.

 

[TurAr]

 

[Umair Nawaz]

@Turkish_FR

If i were a turkish and turkish FR was a candidate then u would vote her

 

[-SINAN-]

Just saw it.....what's up with these people...

 

[Turkish_FR]

Sana Cumhuriyet tarihinden beri Türkiye'nin GDP büyümesini, tablolarla anlatır, önceki dönemlerde temeli atılmış ekonomi politikalarından bahsederdim....ama o kadar cahilsin ki...boşa zaman israfi yapmış olurum.

Sen önce bir Türk ol da GDP yerine GSYİH demeyi öğren. İngiliz çocuğu olduğunu bu kadar belli etme.
Sen bize Melih Gökçek'in bahsettiği Yuvacık Barajı maaliyetinden bahset, 40 milyon Dolarlık barajı nasıl 4,5 milyar Dolara mal ettiğinizi bi anlat ?

 

[-SINAN-]

@Turkish_FR

If i were a turkish and turkish FR was a candidate then u would vote her

Don't get yourself fooled by photoshop + make up, bro.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Don't get yourself fooled by photoshop + make up, bro.

Not just her photos like how she thinks.

She is a real commando girl.

 

[IR-TR]

Hadi biz devletin parasını sömüre sömüre dünyanın en hızlı büyüyen ekonomilerinden birisi olduk. Siz devletin parasını bunca yıl ne yaptınız söylesene ? Bayrak ipi mi yaptınız ?

Bu araçların fiyatları 1 milyon lira değildir. Genelde şirket üzerine alınır bu araçlar ve şirket olarak devlete ödediğin vergiyi şirket adına aldığın araçların ÖTV'sinden düşersin, yani 400.000 Liraya almış olursun. Devlet zaten 400.000 Liradan alır.

Turkiyede maalesef çok seyler 'sirket ustune' veya 'krediyle' veya 'takistle' alinir. Butun ekonomi kredi ustune doniyor. Insaat insaat insaat. Ve Turizm. Ama sonunda baska ne var? Her cumhurbaskan ekonomiyi oyle 'buyutebilir'. Ama Amerikan 'Fed' faizleri yukseltse, Turk ekonomisi batar. Ozaman ne olacak? Yurtdisindaki Turkler bunu bekliyor para yatirmak icin. Erdogan daha az cami yapstirin, daha çok okul yaptirsin. Daha çok yabanci sirketlere fabrika açtirsin. Ozaman iyi tarafa gider Turkiye. Koylu AKPçilere binlerce Benz alip Turkiyeyi zengin pozu yaptirmasin. O koyluler 10 sene once esek biniyordu, simdi Palio binsinler.

 

[-SINAN-]

Sen bize Melih Gökçek'in bahsettiği Yuvacık Barajı maaliyetinden bahset, 40 milyon Dolarlık barajı nasıl 4,5 milyar Dolara mal ettiğinizi bi anlat ?

AKP'li olsunda, ne derse desin dimi....

Not just her photos like how she thinks.

She is a real commando girl.

Uneducated fool...nothing more...stooge of the ruling party.

Turkiyede maalesef çok seyler 'sirket ustune' veya 'krediyle' veya 'takistle' alinir. Butun ekonomi kredi ustune doniyor. Insaat insaat insaat. Ve Turizm. Ama sonunda baska ne var? Her cumhurbaskan ekonomiyi oyle 'buyutebilir'. Ama Amerikan 'Fed' faizleri yukseltse, Turk ekonomisi batar. Ozaman ne olacak? Yurtdisindaki Turkler bunu bekliyor para yatirmak icin. Erdogan daha az cami yapsin, daha çok okul yapsin. Daha çok yabanci sirketleri fabrika açtirsin. Ozaman iyi tarafa gider Turkiye. Koylu AKPçilere binlerce Benz alip Turkiyeyi zengin pozu yaptirmasin. O koyluler 10 sene once esek biniyordular, simdi Palio binsinler.

Anlayamaz...boşuna vaktini harcıyosun......bunun gibilerle konuşamazsın.

 

[IR-TR]

AKP'li olsunda, ne derse desin dimi....

Uneducated fool...nothing more...stooge of the ruling party.


Anlayamaz...boşuna vaktini harcıyosun......bunun gibilerle konuşamazsın.

Olsun, bana degisiklik oldu Turkce yazmak. Ama dogrusun tabi.
PS: Ay çok komik ya o video

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Uneducated fool...nothing more...stooge of the ruling party.

Common man she is a woman and in our cultures we respect them, so lets not become like westerners.

I know by turkish standards of looks and thinking she is ordinary but i like her anyways.

Too bad she is engaged.