Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[Saddam Hussein]

I can show you hundreds of examples of degeneracy in the very conservative Muslim countries and communities too- raping, chopping heads, lynching people, stoning people alive, drug abuse, beastiality, pedophilia and homosexuality that are just hidden away from the public but probably happen in even bigger numbers than any Western country.

Moral values and being a good human being has nothing to do with the teachings of some crazy old men with beards who fill your head with a bunch of fairy tales from thousands of years ago and use Islam for filling their pockets with money. It’s your parents and family environment that teaches you how to be a good person.

I love how many of you here despise the West and it’s values but prefer to live in Europe and America instead of coming back to your own countries. The same for the Islamist politicians and Religious heads who blame the West for every evil but invest all the money they steal in Western properties, bank account and citizenships for their relatives.

Yes valid points, we also have our degenerates in the MENA region that's for sure, they're on the other end of the spectrum. The middle in between is the right spot which can only be achieved with proper balance, not with full westernization, full secularism combined with extreme nationalism and neither with Islamist rule. Hence whilst I live in the west I play the Mufti and call them kuffar when I see fit, it aids in the balance.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

This is not insanity. This is High Treason.

In the co-operation of ''Ne istediler de vermedik''... Highly-qualified,educated,smart and loyal-to-country/nation (especially loyal) patriots in strategic and critical positions in state, army, intel etc. were replaced with quite the opposite figures whose only qualification are to be relatives/close friends and therefore do not question but obey for the sake of the one person not the nation or country.

That is why there is no comprehensive strategies, plans that will save the day and also the future with minimum un/lethal damage(s), but maximum benefit in national and international arena... Quite the opposite, All ''Theatre'' is based on how to keep the power in the next day.

The result:

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the source: https://www.kirsehirhaberturk.com/barzaninin-televizyon-kanalindaki-harita-skandali.html

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the source: https://www.sozcu.com.tr/2017/gunde...istanbul-ve-ankarada-gondere-cekildi-1701800/


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the source: https://www.ulusal.com.tr/gundem/tg.../akpli-kuzu-hesabimiz-tutmadigunde-h5754.html

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The source: https://cdn2.gazeteaksam.com/aksam/imgsdisk/2017/09/23/230920171343494710658_2.jpg

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the source: https://www.haberturk.com/gundem/haber/1088176-hdp-hangi-ilde-yuzde-kac-oy-aldi[

 

[Nein]

In the co-operation of ''Ne istediler de vermedik''... Highly-qualified,educated,smart and loyal-to-country/nation (especially loyal) patriots in strategic and critical positions in state, army, intel etc. were replaced with quite the opposite figures whose only qualification are to be relatives/close friends and therefore do not question but obey for the sake of the one person not the nation or country.

That is why there is no comprehensive strategies, plans that will save the day and also the future with minimum un/lethal damage(s), but maximum benefit in national and international arena... Quite the opposite, All ''Theatre'' is based on how to keep the power in the next day.

The result:

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the source: https://www.kirsehirhaberturk.com/barzaninin-televizyon-kanalindaki-harita-skandali.html

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the source: https://www.sozcu.com.tr/2017/gunde...istanbul-ve-ankarada-gondere-cekildi-1701800/


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the source: https://www.ulusal.com.tr/gundem/tg.../akpli-kuzu-hesabimiz-tutmadigunde-h5754.html

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The source: https://cdn2.gazeteaksam.com/aksam/imgsdisk/2017/09/23/230920171343494710658_2.jpg

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the source: https://www.haberturk.com/gundem/haber/1088176-hdp-hangi-ilde-yuzde-kac-oy-aldi[

Is this no surprise everytime I say the Kurds want a independant country or want to break off from Turkey I get called a racist.

Ever since ww1 the Allied powers promised the Kurds an independant country since that failed hard since the Kurds like the Armenians were used as puppets by the Great Powers.

The Kurds are trying to get what they were promised by the Allies its no surprise that we have a Kurdish problem in the country.

You even some Turks who suggest we are better off withdrawing from Eastern Turkey because its a burden.

No withdrawal no giving up land.

Yes valid points, we also have our degenerates in the MENA region that's for sure, they're on the other end of the spectrum. The middle in between is the right spot which can only be achieved with proper balance, not with full westernization, full secularism combined with extreme nationalism and neither with Islamist rule. Hence whilst I live in the west I play the Mufti and call them kuffar when I see fit, it aids in the balance.

There is a difference liberal or openly free societies basically showcase degeneracy while there is no need to hide it while conservative or religious ones its either swept under a rug or hidden. I think its hidden due to shame or whatever the reason it is.

 

[Bismarck]

Is this no surprise everytime I say the Kurds want a independant country or want to break off from Turkey I get called a racist.

Ever since ww1 the Allied powers promised the Kurds an independant country since that failed hard since the Kurds like the Armenians were used as puppets by the Great Powers.

The Kurds are trying to get what they were promised by the Allies its no surprise that we have a Kurdish problem in the country.

You even some Turks who suggest we are better off withdrawing from Eastern Turkey because its a burden.

No withdrawal no giving up land.



There is a difference liberal or openly free societies basically showcase degeneracy while there is no need to hide it while conservative or religious ones its either swept under a rug or hidden. I think its hidden due to shame or whatever the reason it is.

Is that true that Atatürk promised a Kurdish state too, if Kurds help Turks in independent war.

 

[Nein]

Is that true that Atatürk promised a Kurdish state too, if Kurds help Turks in independent war.

No he did not but some close associates said he should give up and make Turkey pure Turk. But Ataturk said no.

Committee of Union and Progress actually thought about giving up land to the Armenians. But Ataturk did not like that at all hence why he left them.

Ataturk was not really a compromising man he believed that these lands belong to the Turks and they fought hard for it hence why they should be kept.

Ottoman Empire has already lost so much lands hence why Ataturk did not want to lose more.

That myth was started by Kurds but there is no proof as Ataturk and the Turkish army fought Kurdish separatists in the Independance war.

 

[Quasar]

Is that true that Atatürk promised a Kurdish state too, if Kurds help Turks in independent war.

most of Anatolia had a feudal structure Therefore, Statehood, ethnic orgin or nation were alien concepts! This is why the establisment of Turkish Republic was a revolution! Therefore, people could not demand a concept ''statehood'' which had no corospondence in their structure of reality!

 

[Nein]

most of anatolia had a feudal structure Therefore, Statehood, ethnic orgin or nation were alien concepts! This is why the establisment of Turkish Republic was a revolution! Therefore, people could not demand a concept ''statehood'' which has no corospondence in their structure of reality!

Turkish army fought Kurdish separatists in the Independance war so that myth of Ataturk promising a country goes down the drain.

About feudalism has to be the most backward system of all time. Irony is most Crusader larpers on the internet actually support feudalism they believe its the ideal system. Hahahahaha most who actually want this feudal system would most likely end up as peasants wont even able to go up the ranks because feudalism if you are born a peasant you will die a peasant. Not everybody will be a knight because being a knight is reserved for the nobles and the elite so to be a knight you got to be born into a aristocratic family.

Once feudalism was gone from Europe is how they industrialised themselves.

 

[MKALE1]

Oh yeah cry more loudly chpkk b....s cry forever.

http://www.haber7.com/siyaset/haber/2889711-hdpli-temelli-istanbul-zaferimizi-sindiremediler

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

In 6 Aug 2019, Graham Fuller, the USA agent and one of the theoreticians of the ''Islam'' abusers in Turkey confesses...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1164288070742618117

Any one who wonders ''Ne istediler de vermedik'' alliance must read this as first step to the root dating back late 1940s.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Another story...

Some forest fires took place in the city of Izmir...

Forest fire destroys over 1,200 acres of land

the source: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/firefighters-battling-to-put-out-forest-fires-in-turkey-145873

The Fire fighting planes in the THK(Turkish Aeronautical Association) that is under the protection of the state were not used against them; and the Minister of Agrigulture and Foresty claims the planes are broken and some do not have engines:

the source: https://www.haberturk.com/bakan-pakdemirli-isimize-yaramiyor-kullanmak-zorunda-degiliz-2515292


the same planes were offered to fight against the fires in the countries of Greece, Syria, Israel, Libya, Georgia, and some of them were sent there on the order of Erdoğan:

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the source: https://tele1.com.tr/yangin-ucagi-yunanistana-var-izmire-yok-77749//5/

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

Another story...

Some forest fires took place in the city of Izmir...


the source: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/firefighters-battling-to-put-out-forest-fires-in-turkey-145873

The Fire fighting planes in the THK(Turkish Aeronautical Association) that is under the protection of the state were not used against them; and the Minister of Agrigulture and Foresty claims the planes are broken and some do not have engines:


the source: https://www.haberturk.com/bakan-pakdemirli-isimize-yaramiyor-kullanmak-zorunda-degiliz-2515292


the same planes were offered to fight against the fires in the countries of Greece, Syria, Israel, Libya, Georgia, and some of them were sent there on the order of Erdoğan:

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the source: https://tele1.com.tr/yangin-ucagi-yunanistana-var-izmire-yok-77749//5/

Our nation has become a joke.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Our nation has become a joke.

People in streets of Turkey have already started to ask and question who the real enemy of Turkey is after all those failures.

 

[Nein]

More lies being recycled by so called youtube "historians"

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

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Yüksek Askeri Şura’da (YAŞ) Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri’nde yapılan tasfiyenin ardından, göreve devam eden 5 generalin de istifa dilekçelerini verdiği öğrenildi. İstifa edenler arasında İdlib’den sorumlu komutan ve komutan yardımcısı da bulunuyor.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1165876775995478016

After the release of many regular soldiers due to shortened term duty, in the last meeting, Some generals were ''purged'' out of the army, as a result, some other generals resigned against such policy.

After incompetent ''friends'' in diplomacy department of the state, the army follows the same route, so how to solve Problems created by ''friends'' in Agean and Med. Seas, Syria, Iraq with the army without soldiers and generals?


Who is the real enemy of Turkey?

 

[Deliorman]

Even Zeki Muren and Bulent Ersoy yenge did their service to the country.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1166014269327953921

Can you expect from people like these to care about holly things for a Turk like the state and it’s armed forces. All they care about is to eat and sh*t and steal as much as they can. Parasites.