Turkish/PKK issues

[waz]

I'll watch the thread carefully, the Turkish bros have handled this well.

 

[-SINAN-]

Well the first sectarian conference held in Turkey against te Iraqi new elected government and if you look at those who attended that conference you'd know exactly what I'm talking about!!!???.

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No, i don't understand you. You claimed the below sentence.

Then why you cry when Iraqis kill terrorists in Iraq!!!????? now you drink from the same poison.

Now, you are saying an entirely different thing......

 

[Al-Kurdi]

another cheap try, Kurds of Bakur(TR) welcoming Peshmerga on their way to Kobane.

She wouldn't have cried if she had take care of his son.....the moment he got a rifle in his hand...he is dead. You can't expect to point a rifle to security forces in and expect to be not shot...maybe in the parallel universe.

Officer saying " wound them, you already shot his leg don't kill him, no need." So much for your "Turks love killing Kurds"...... we even show mercy for PKK.

you don't even show mercy for dogs, what you on about? want to see the video of a turkish cop breaking the arm of a kurdish boy? **** off. turks started the war, turks started killing kurds and destroying their homes and towns under the pre-text of fighting PKK like they always have. before dersim and after Dersim. just shut it. Finally we saw some justice today.

@Al-Kurdi

Also we still know how you force Syrian Arabs to leave their Villages for your ehtnic cleaning you Racist !

a turk calling someone else a racist. why do I even asnwer you... the foundations of your nation is built upon fascism and racism.

She wouldn't have cried if she had take care of his son.....the moment he got a rifle in his hand...he is dead. You can't expect to point a rifle to security forces in and expect to be not shot...maybe in the parallel universe.

Officer saying " wound them, you already shot his leg don't kill him, no need." So much for your "Turks love killing Kurds"...... we even show mercy for PKK.

she wouldn't have cried wouldn't turkish occupation army have entered Kurdistan and started commiting thier massacres and destruction. this is not the first time it happened.

In this forum you won't find a single Turkish member, who supports ISIS, or any terrorists faction in Iraq, or not supporting Iraq in it's war against Terror.

Look buddy, we are here more than 100 Turks in PDF, why won't you believe your to eyes and ears rather than what your politicians tell to you.


Stupid PKK propaganda.


While crossing the street cameraman turns right, zooms in and films Turkish troops and a tank... as they cross the street gunfire is heard, cameraman crosses the street and turns backs, as he films, Turkish troops are at his left hand side, (he turned 180 degrees after crossing the street), look at the civilian who takes cover against the incoming fire, his back is against the location of the Turkish troops, fire is coming from the cameramans right hand side. You don't need to be genious to figure out fire is coming from PKK positions

This what happens in the reality. Turkish Soldiers evacuating civilians with armored vehicles from the hot zone.

Civilians are trying to reach Soldiers' position to escape. PKK fires on them.



Hands and feet of the boy torn apart when he was tinkering with the PKK IED.....

how did it take you to make that shit up? let me guess PKK also killed Elci`?
are you not ashamed of yourself? how brainfucked are you? Innocent Kurds can't even remove the dead bodies of their relatives without being shot by turkish soldiers.even when carrying a white flag, they get shot at.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

This is sad. I really mean this. I am thinking of booking holiday in Turkey this summer. All this does worry me though.

I have absolute respect for Turks. No doubt about that. They are "sorted" people. I had no real intereaction with Kurds until about 5 years ago. Since than I have had lots of interaction as many have moved to city where I live in UK. I have to confess they are very hardworking and congenial people. I just wish both Turks and Kurds find a solution.

And @Al-Kurdi not wanting to offend you or anything but might not be good idea to post pictures of dead. I find it profoundly insulting to the dead and their family.

 

[damm1t]

she wouldn't have cried wouldn't turkish occupation army have entered Kurdistan and started commiting thier massacres and destruction. this is not the first time it happened.

An occupation army runs operations within its borders hahah a new level of retardness It's hilarious ... And the guy still keeps saying kurdistan...
That happens when you try to claim an autonomy in a soveregnity one... Either pkk terrorists will learn or keep dying like rats...

This is sad. I really mean this. I am thinking of booking holiday in Turkey this summer. All this does worry me though.

These are from some terrorist nest towns in Eastern Turkey my friend, The rest of Turkey totally safe. Be cool.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Be happy Mr erdogan making a kurdish state thay span from Iran to to Syria to Turkey.

A state that will create all kind of headache to all these countries.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

This is sad. I really mean this. I am thinking of booking holiday in Turkey this summer. All this does worry me though.

I have absolute respect for Turks. No doubt about that. They are "sorted" people. I had no real intereaction with Kurds until about 5 years ago. Since than I have had lots of interaction as many have moved to city where I live in UK. I have to confess they are very hardworking and congenial people. I just wish both Turks and Kurds find a solution.

And @Al-Kurdi not wanting to offend you or anything but might not be good to post pictures of dead. I find it profoundly insulting to the dead and their family.

What I find insulting is how this forum, it's turks and the admins labels all the victims as PKK. This Kurdistan that's under occupation by turkish soldiers. What I find sad, is how everyone in the forum never posted anything of what's going on. It tells me alot about the entire Muslim community in the general and their bias for turks. I'm giving this biased and selective forum some objectivity of what's really going on. The only solution would be if turks would let kurds be the **** alone. But that would go against the very foundations of their one state, one flag, one people shit mentality. Turks are a brainwashed and ignorant as Nazi Germans. Except there were many Germans who were against it's foundation. Amongst turks, no not really. The indoctrine starts when the turk learns to crawl. Why in god's name should Kurds live with them then?

The facts are simple, what does PKK gain from starting a war in a region where they have full support by the far majority of the people. PKK knows they can't acheive anything trhough war with turkey. Turkey knwos they won't acheive anything against Kurds through democracy because that would go against the very principles of the founding pillars of their nation. But they know they will through war.

And what Turkey and Erdogan gain from starting a war against a people who wants freedom away from them and nothing to do with turks or turkey. For one Erdogan gets more support from Turks because they are a racist people, 2. they get to kill Kurds under the excuse of fighting terrorism. 3, they get to destroy kurdish towns and cities forcing the people immigrate. 4, they get to punish the kurdish people for supporting PKK, 5, more kurds are forced to migrate(perhaps to western turkey) and with time get fully assimilated and so on...

 

[Al-Kurdi]

Be happy Mr erdogan making a kurdish state thay span from Iran to to Syria to Turkey.

A state that will create all kind of headache to all these countries.

With all the problems the middle eastern countries have between themselves, they all have a same common view when it comes to Kurds. Whether Arabs, Iranians or Turks. It's the same. So don't be worried pal.

This is my last post, I see no gain in continuing posting in such a biased forum, I gave you a Kurdish perspective of the situation. Make what you want of it.

 

[Malik Alashter]

With all the problems the middle eastern countries have between themselves, they all have a same common view when it comes to Kurds. Whether Arabs, Iranians or Turks. It's the same. So don't be worried pal.

This is my last post, I see no gain in continuing posting in such a biased forum, I gave you a Kurdish perspective of the situation. Make what you want of it.

Bro don't get wrong please just look at masoud this guy didn't become the head of the great kurdistan and he start threatening the Iraqi government not all that there is talk that isis attacking Iraqi army and the PMF from kurdish controlled territory.

Do you think we going to stay calm when masud start annexing some of our lands.

You make or state but that suppose to happen in cooperation with all countries that kurdistan now part of it.

 

[BordoEnes]

With all the problems the middle eastern countries have between themselves, they all have a same common view when it comes to Kurds. Whether Arabs, Iranians or Turks. It's the same. So don't be worried pal.

This is my last post, I see no gain in continuing posting in such a biased forum, I gave you a Kurdish perspective of the situation. Make what you want of it.

You are NOT giving a Kurdish perspective. You are giving a biased Pro-PKK and Pro-Seperatist perspective. Realy ironic that you would call this forum biased and then go ahead and post overwhelmingly biased content. And knowing your history within this forum, that doesnt surprize me in the slighest. Like i said, you are allowed to create this thread and freely express your mind, but atleast be honest about your intentions.

 

[BordoEnes]

With all the problems the middle eastern countries have between themselves, they all have a same common view when it comes to Kurds. Whether Arabs, Iranians or Turks. It's the same. So don't be worried pal.

This is my last post, I see no gain in continuing posting in such a biased forum, I gave you a Kurdish perspective of the situation. Make what you want of it.

And how about you post the crimes of those PKK terrorist symphatizers? This is what they did to an "Undercover cop" who was talking about the unity of the country. They beat him, threw him on the streets and shortly after mercilessly shot him dead. Fucking trash.

The Video
Graphic: 18+

Preach about that you terrorist sympathizing ****.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

What I find insulting is how this forum, it's turks and the admins labels all the victims as PKK. This Kurdistan that's under occupation by turkish soldiers. What I find sad, is how everyone in the forum never posted anything of what's going on. It tells me alot about the entire Muslim community in the general and their bias for turks. I'm giving this biased and selective forum some objectivity of what's really going on. The only solution would be if turks would let kurds be the **** alone. But that would go against the very foundations of their one state, one flag, one people shit mentality. Turks are a brainwashed and ignorant as Nazi Germans. Except there were many Germans who were against it's foundation. Amongst turks, no not really. The indoctrine starts when the turk learns to crawl. Why in god's name should Kurds live with them then?

The facts are simple, what does PKK gain from starting a war in a region where they have full support by the far majority of the people. PKK knows they can't acheive anything trhough war with turkey. Turkey knwos they won't acheive anything against Kurds through democracy because that would go against the very principles of the founding pillars of their nation. But they know they will through war.

And what Turkey and Erdogan gain from starting a war against a people who wants freedom away from them and nothing to do with turks or turkey. For one Erdogan gets more support from Turks because they are a racist people, 2. they get to kill Kurds under the excuse of fighting terrorism. 3, they get to destroy kurdish towns and cities forcing the people immigrate. 4, they get to punish the kurdish people for supporting PKK, 5, more kurds are forced to migrate(perhaps to western turkey) and with time get fully assimilated and so on...

Al Kurdi at a personal level I find myself somewhat sympathetic to your plight. However I must make it clear and for what it's worth I entirely support the "one flag, one people, one state" concept of Turkey. Modern states need this strong nationalism that subsumes and cripples any fissiparious tendancies. Turkey has been more successful than most countries in building a strong, stable state that is on the threshold of joining the first world. In addition it is beautiful country.

I know a through a friend a Kurdish (Turkish) academic who is left leaning athiest and has a Kurdistan flag in his room. However he is also very pro Turkey. So from my perspective it is possible to be Kurd and do well in Turkey. Would you really want Turkey to go the way of Syria? You know very well the Turkish state is very strong. By fighting you will just have bloodbath and that will contine indefintely. You would be better in joining your Turkish brothers to build a strong and prosperous Turkey if as I assume you are Turkish Kurd.

I say what I say with best of intentions. As I said before I have got to know some Kurds who have earned my respect but I can't see how fighting the Turkish state is good thing. I know there are some very mature Turkish members here and maybe you need to share and accomodate with them.

This is just my two cents and I don't claim to know all the ins and outs of what is happening but I feel it is terrible shame for Turk or Kurd to die in this futile conflict. All the best.

And how about you post the crimes of those PKK terrorist symphatizers? This is what they did to an "Undercover cop" who was talking about the unity of the country. They beat him, threw him on the streets and shortly after mercilessly shot him dead. Fucking trash.

The Video
Graphic: 18+

Preach about that you terrorist sympathizing ****.

Just terrible .....

 

[BordoEnes]

Al Kurdi at a personal level I find myself somewhat sympathetic to your plight. However I must make it clear and for what it's worth I entirely support the "one flag, one people, one state" concept of Turkey. Modern states need this strong nationalism that subsumes and cripples any fissiparious tendancies. Turkey has been more successful than most countries in building a strong, stable state that is on the threshold of joining the first world. In addition it is beautiful country.

I know a through a friend a Kurdish (Turkish) academic who is left leaning athiest and has a Kurdistan flag in his room. However he is also very pro Turkey. So from my perspective it is possible to be Kurd and do well in Turkey. Would you really want Turkey to go the way of Syria? You know very well the Turkish state is very strong. By fighting you will just have bloodbath and that will contine indefintely. You would be better in joining your Turkish brothers to build a strong and prosperous Turkey if as I assume you are Turkish Kurd.

I say what I say with best of intentions. As I said before I have got to know some Kurds who have earned my respect but I can't see how fighting the Turkish state is good thing. I know there are some very mature Turkish members here and maybe you need to share and accomodate with them.

This is just my two cents and I don't claim to know all the ins and outs of what is happening but I feel it is terrible shame for Turk or Kurd to die in this futile conflict. All the best.



Just terrible .....

He was yelling that we(Kurds and Turks) are all children of this great nation in Turkish and in return he just got beaten and afterwards mercilessly executed on the street. Even till the very end he was preaching about the unity of this country. God bless this man... this is the true nature of these "protestors". Terrorisme that is being sugar goated by our Kurdish forumer.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

He was yelling that we(Kurds and Turks) are all children of this great nation in Turkish and in return he just got beaten and afterwards mercilessly executed on the street. Even till the very end he was preaching about the unity of this country. God bless this man... this is the true nature of these "protestors". Terrorisme that is being sugar goated by our Kurdish forumer.

That's terrible. It's horrible thing to say but I support "iron fist" policy to build a unified state under one flag. The stupid days of tribal, ethnic, clan, sectarian rubbish is over. Time to move on. You know most Kurds I have ran into in Europe appear to be very progressive and they are big hit with Western people however somebody told me they have female genital mutilation in their society. This is shocking if true. I associate that with Africa. Is this true?

Ps. Where in Turkey did that incident take place - the undercover officer being killed?

Just saw that video. It sick. Disgusting.

 

[BordoEnes]

That's terrible. It's horrible thing to say but I support "iron fist" policy to build a unified state under one flag. The stupid days of tribal, ethnic, clan, sectarian rubbish is over. Time to move on. You know most Kurds I have ran into in Europe appear to be very progressive and they are big hit with Western people however somebody told me they have female genital mutilation in their society. This is shocking if true. I associate that with Africa. Is this true?

Ps. Where in Turkey did that incident take place - the undercover officer being killed?

The incident happened in Istanbul. There is a sizeable Kurdish minority within the city at around 10% if i remember correctly. The city is suffering from all kinds of underground militia terrorist groups, not just PKK or YDH-G but from other communist extremist terrorists such as DHKP-C aswell. They have been spotted armed at the funerals of their members constantly.

There are two kinds of Kurds i have come across so far in Europe. First kind would be the die-hard PKK fanboys that supports their cause no mather how brutal or unjustified ones action is. These usually are nothing more then nationalistic youth that just refuse to assimilate into Europeun society(which usually tend to be non-Turkish Kurds). The others kind being the very progressive minded people that simply want the violence to end.

I myself am not well informed regarding the Kurdish society outside of Turkey, so i cant really tell much about it.