Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[Ansu fati]

War ain't computer game. You can talk big behind the screen. But when the flesh flies it can be pretty darn scary scene.

Thanks for explaining me what is war
I am just saying that you don’t understand turkish way of thinking
You say about ATGMs but you forgot that in possible turkish operation against assad rebels+hts will participate too
Have you seen alpagu and kargu kamikaze drones do you understand how much they can cause damage to assad militias at the same time they can serve as good protection for turkish troops also songar machine gun drone is also game changer
Bora tactical balistic missiles F-16s with stand off weapons etc
I can guarantee that TAF just like any professional modern army has already predicted the danger of ATGMs and other weapons that can be used against soldiers
Also one thing you should know if one turkish soldiers is killed then turks will demand 10 enemies dead
if erdogan fails to react in fact this could trigger problems for him
By the way turks live in turbulent region where death is just a normal thing do you know statistics how much people in turkey die in one year ???
people who live in western countries are soft to be more precise cowards but people from balkans middle east or africa have seen everything and are used to scenes when flesh start flying around

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

https://www.yenisafak.com/gundem/komando-siniri-gecti-3524928

Looks like it's dead serous. Already 1K long vehicles of ammunition have been sent into Syria. Not to mention commando and special forces units numbering in thousands. The assets in the air are the key. Armed UAVs are especially to watch. NATO's 2nd biggest army has decided it's a "do or die" ops...

 

[Nein]

Thanks for explaining me what is war
I am just saying that you don’t understand turkish way of thinking
You say about ATGMs but you forgot that in possible turkish operation against assad rebels+hts will participate too
Have you seen alpagu and kargu kamikaze drones do you understand how much they can cause damage to assad militias at the same time they can serve as good protection for turkish troops also songar machine gun drone is also game changer
Bora tactical balistic missiles F-16s with stand off weapons etc
I can guarantee that TAF just like any professional modern army has already predicted the danger of ATGMs and other weapons that can be used against soldiers
Also one thing you should know if one turkish soldiers is killed then turks will demand 10 enemies dead
if erdogan fails to react in fact this could trigger problems for him
By the way turks live in turbulent region where death is just a normal thing do you know statistics how much people in turkey die in one year ???
people who live in western countries are soft to be more precise cowards but people from balkans middle east or africa have seen everything and are used to scenes when flesh start flying around

Indeed that is so true even today people just dont know Turkish culture or mentality because to some it is European while other dismiss it as Arab or Middle Eastern.

Both are so wrong.

 

[bosanski vojnik]

Tanks are easy targets for Kornet. Current Turkish tanks don't have APS. And in the event of total war powerful patrons KSA, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Iraq, Egypt would supply thousands more Kornet to Assad. They want to bleed Turkey in Syria, cause an uprising in Turkey, overthrow Erdogan and install a puppet regime in Turkey.

You underestimate the unifying factor of Turkish Nationalism

The Nationalism you see in Turkey is much different to Arab Nationalism which really only acts as a buffer against Muslim Brotherhood Islamism (in the case of Egypt) or to prop up one family, sect or tribe (in the case of Syria).

As much as some Turks may dislike Erdogan, they would dislike a leader installed by foreign governments much more. I really put this down to the fact that Turkey was never really colonised so the divide & conquer strategy of the imperial powers like Britian & France has not impacted their ethos and mentality.

It's also why someone like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy can never really be understood by Western liberals, socialists or even Middle-Eastern Islamists.

 

[Melkor]

You underestimate the unifying factor of Turkish Nationalism

The Nationalism you see in Turkey is much different to Arab Nationalism which really only acts as a buffer against Muslim Brotherhood Islamism (in the case of Egypt) or to prop up one family, sect or tribe (in the case of Syria).

As much as some Turks may dislike Erdogan, they would dislike a leader installed by foreign governments much more. I really put this down to the fact that Turkey was never really colonised so the divide & conquer strategy of the imperial powers like Britian & France has not impacted their ethos and mentality.

It's also why someone like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy can never really be understood by Western liberals, socialists or even Middle-Eastern Islamists.

Turks would rather be ruled by homemade aseholes instead of foreign made ones...

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

You underestimate the unifying factor of Turkish Nationalism

The Nationalism you see in Turkey is much different to Arab Nationalism which really only acts as a buffer against Muslim Brotherhood Islamism (in the case of Egypt) or to prop up one family, sect or tribe (in the case of Syria).

As much as some Turks may dislike Erdogan, they would dislike a leader installed by foreign governments much more. I really put this down to the fact that Turkey was never really colonised so the divide & conquer strategy of the imperial powers like Britian & France has not impacted their ethos and mentality.

It's also why someone like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's legacy can never really be understood by Western liberals, socialists or even Middle-Eastern Islamists.

Spot on. However Erdoğan was put in by foreigners. He was put into power by America.

 

[bosanski vojnik]

in Turkey pictures of Ataturk & Erdogan fly side by side:

You see this would be unthinkable in a country like Egypt, Iraq or Syria. Where people fight over ideological and tribal affiliation to this day. Even a foreign invader would not change that dynamic. Imagine if Gamal Abdel Nasr's portraits stood side by side with Hassan Al-Bana lol?

Whilst Erdogan & Ataturk may differ in their approach to religious affairs and the state they both made decisions that where in the best interests of the Turkish people in their own time. For example Ataturk liberating & modernising Turkey after the painful events of WW1 and Erdogan's increasing of Turkish international standing and economic standing in the world.

Of course both made mistakes as well. However bringing Turks together to defend their nation from foreign adversaries and threats is where Erdogan and Ataturk really share their common values. An AKP turk would gladly give his life for a CHP Turk and vice versa in an event of a conflict. In other mid-east country it is literally every tribe or ideology for himself. It's why Turkey is so mis-understood by western political analysts. It's a Muslim country and not a a post-colonialist one in which they can easily subvert and dismember.

Spot on. However Erdoğan was put in by foreigners. He was put into power by America.

I would disagree with this

Sure there probably were foreign interests at the time who lobbied for and encouraged his initial election campaign back in 2002. But international election interference & lobbying has been going on for a long time.

Turkish electorate in 2002 were desperate for political stability and country just went through a terrible economic crisis. Who knows where Turkey would be right now had RTE not won in 2002 (Same way as Greece today?). You can't have a strong military without a strong economy.

Whilst I question some of his geopolitical decisions and military credentials as a leader. It's under Erdogan's leadership where Turkish military & defence industries are heading towards self-sufficiency and mass modernisation. Once you have a modern self-sufficient military you are one step towards becoming a global power.

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

in Turkey pictures of Ataturk & Erdogan fly side by side:

You see this would be unthinkable in a country like Egypt, Iraq or Syria. Where people fight over ideological and tribal affiliation to this day. Even a foreign invader would not change that dynamic. Imagine if Gamal Abdel Nasr's portraits stood side by side with Hassan Al-Bana lol?

Whilst Erdogan & Ataturk may differ in their approach to religious affairs and the state they both made decisions that where in the best interests of the Turkish people in their own time. For example Ataturk liberating & modernising Turkey after the painful events of WW1 and Erdogan's increasing of Turkish international standing and economic standing in the world.

Of course both made mistakes as well. However bringing Turks together to defend their nation from foreign adversaries and threats is where Erdogan and Ataturk really share their common values. An AKP turk would gladly give his life for a CHP Turk and vice versa in an event of a conflict. In other mid-east country it is literally every tribe or ideology for himself. It's why Turkey is so mis-understood by western political analysts. It's a Muslim country and not a a post-colonialist one in which they can easily subvert and dismember.



I would disagree with this

Sure there probably were foreign interests at the time who lobbied for and encouraged his initial election campaign back in 2002. But international election interference & lobbying has been going on for a long time.

Turkish electorate in 2002 were desperate for political stability and country just went through a terrible economic crisis. Who knows where Turkey would be right now had RTE not won in 2002 (Same way as Greece today?). You can't have a strong military without a strong economy.

Whilst I question some of his geopolitical decisions and military credentials as a leader. It's under Erdogan's leadership where Turkish military & defence industries are heading towards self-sufficiency and mass modernisation. Once you have a modern self-sufficient military you are one step towards becoming a global power.

Bro back before Erdoğan got into power the Turkish army was 5th-6th place with quality and quantity put into consideration.

It was a serious power and still is. What many don't realise is that the Turkish defense industry has been coming back to life since the 70s. It began to really bear fruit in the 90s. Everything we see now is a result of the hard work done in prior decades. Erdoğan didn't just create all these projects out of thin air.

The Otokar Kobra's were designed in the 90s and are still heavily used by the Turkish Armed Forces. The T-600 Yildirim balistic missile was handed to the army in 1998... it was finally revealed to the public in 2005... the, Altay, Atak, Milgem, TFX were all in pre-planning phase in the 90s.

The only thing that has changed is that important projects are no longer kept secret. Instead they are known about years before they are introduced for propaganda reasons.

Also, for political reasons some projects are jeopardized.

 

[Ansu fati]

Conquest of assadland(Assadiya) in 3,2,1

 

[Vergennes]

View attachment 604335 Conquest of assadland(Assadiya) in 3,2,1

Could you provide exact translations of the tweets/pictures you are posting ? (same for all other Turkish members)à

Unfortunately,the majority of the forum doesn't understand the beautiful language of love,romance,poetry,philosophy,knowledge and wisdom that Turkish is. Thanks.

 

[blackeyes90]

Could you provide exact translations of the tweets/pictures you are posting ? (same for all other Turkish members)à

Unfortunately,the majority of the forum doesn't understand the beautiful language of love,romance,poetry,philosophy,knowledge and wisdom that Turkish is. Thanks.

it basicly says "final preparations are being done"

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Deploying SPGs the observation posts inside Idlib. Couple it with 24/7 UAV coverage. Not a single scum would survive within 40kms from the borders off Idlib.....

The Turkish folks didn't join NATO for partying...

https://www.yenisafak.com/dunya/idlibdeki-gozlem-noktalarina-obus-ve-muhimmat-takviyesi-3524951

 

[HannibalBarca]

M5 highway is almost under ASSad/RU... Previous TR red line will be crossed

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

M5 highway is almost under ASSad/RU... Previous TR red line will be crossed

Not yet. Next target is Anadan plains to secure Aleppo city's western flank.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Deploying SPGs at the observation posts inside Idlib. Couple it with 24/7 UAV coverage. Not a single scum would survive within 40kms from the borders off Idlib.....

The Turkish folks didn't join NATO for partying...

More pics of the deployment. Turkey has decided to sort it out within Syria. Enough is enough....