Turkish nuclear weapons program?

[Pax Ottomana]

@Deliorman @dbc @himate

Deep ocean testing is also an option. Somewhere in the middle of the Pacific in international waters, far away from any inhabited islands. US, UK and France have done extensive tests in such remote locations. Check this out:

 

[Nilgiri]

@Deliorman @dbc @himate

Deep ocean testing is also an option. Somewhere in the middle of the Pacific in international waters, far away from any inhabited islands. US, UK and France have done extensive tests in such remote locations. Check this out:

If Turkey goes this route with full testing regimen, then it can just do underground test I think. Just drill shaft deep enough somewhere uninhabited in anatolian plateau and test a primary there to begin with.

Anywhere in middle of the large white areas (as long as gets all clear from geologists for stability etc):

 

[vishwambhar]

Of course, one of the nuclear powers can give Turkey the necessary computer simulation models to bypass testing entirely. But who? and why?

Hi I always had this question about computer simulation for nuclear tests... How its confirmed that nuclear test is successful by computer simulation?

 

[dbc]

@Deliorman @dbc @himate

Deep ocean testing is also an option. Somewhere in the middle of the Pacific in international waters, far away from any inhabited islands. US, UK and France have done extensive tests in such remote locations. Check this out:

Deep ocean? Its difficult, expensive and generally not optimal for yield measurements. Citing from memory, the last underwater test was in 1962. Yes, most of the nations you mentioned particularly the French conducted near shore tests on remote island territories in the Pacific. The path of least resistance is to obtain the computer models from an ally.

Hi I always had this question about computer simulation for nuclear tests... How its confirmed that nuclear test is successful by computer simulation?

Simple, by building a model based on actual testing. The nations that tested the most likely have the best models.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Simple, by building a model based on actual testing. The nations that tested the most likely have the best models.

Transferring "test models" also means transferring "weapons design". doesn't it? I reckon otherwise the model wouldn't match the weapon type/yield?

 

[dbc]

Transferring "test models" also means transferring "weapons design". doesn't it? I reckon otherwise the model wouldn't match the weapon type/yield?

Yes in general terms, American and Russian models cover a whole series of permutations of materials and designs.
The model will need further calibration if new materials or revolutionary design changes occur.
The reason the US and Russia agreed to a test moratorium is that they have exhausted their test scenarios and have all the data they will need.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Here's President Erdogan effectively declaring Turkey's nuclear weapons program:

 

[Aspen]

The west promote you when youre their puppet. They instill false sense of security when your doing their bidding. Before erdogan the secular tutelage state of turkey was a pawn for the Israelis and their western supporters and they gave them the false impression of the strength of turkey but were in fact no where near what turkey is today.
The Israelis and the western supporters are doing the same with egypt today by instilling false sense of security into Egyptian. Notice how they (gloablfirepower) rank them militarily above turkey or pakistan but in reality when push come to shove the egyptian armed forces won't fair any better than the syrian army. All of Egyptian asset will become ashes in few weeks should the Egyptians coup regime ever dare to punch above their weight and start a real war by believing the false narrative created by their masters. The western narrative is always created for a reason.

Agree with this assessment

Turkey can always test in somalia

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Mete Yarar talking about Turkey's nuclear weapons. Some very good analyses. Summary for non-Turkish spakers: Turkey needs to join the nuclear club even if it has to pay a high price for it.

 

[Nein]

Mete Yarar talking about Turkey's nuclear weapons. Some very good analyses. Summary for non-Turkish spakers: Turkey needs to join the nuclear club even if it has to pay a high price for it.

Nukes are the best form deterrent against your enemies. Real question is will the sacrifice be worth it.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Nukes are the best form deterrent against your enemies. Real question is will the sacrifice be worth it.

If it wasn't worth it, 9 other states wouldn't have developed them. Like you said, it's the ultimate deterrent against attacks by conventional militaries. No one even THINKS about declaring war on a nuclear power. Even tiny North Korea has made itself untouchable.

 

[himate]

Nukes are the best form deterrent against your enemies. Real question is will the sacrifice be worth it.

Of course its worth it. Turkey needs to aim for self sufficiency in all fields. The current pandemic is a good opportunity to aim for full sufficiency while most trade and tourism is basically halted. Any future sanction won't be worse than what turkey is currently experiencing in the pandemic.
Having a nuclear arsenal at our disposal, coward countries like france and russia won't dare to antogonise turkey in any world hostility

 

[Timur]

my opinion is a biological weapon (better many different virus) is also good

for that you need some virus that only make you weak like flu
you need some that are really deadly
you need some that are deadly over time
maybe you should consider other deseasas and not only viruses

imagine a nation fighting against 50 different deseases

and if you have the cure for it it wont affect you much

and to people denying this and labeling it as a dirty thing.. yes nuclear weapons are also dirty so I dont give a shit about it..

so we need phosphor bombs, biological and chemical weapons bigger bombs with 1-10 tons and concepts that go for swarms, massiv attack of water/food of a nation, mines ,automatic ki supported networkcentered weapon systems because full ki wont be aviable for a long time , land and air based suicide drones, sniper drones and so on

 

[Deliorman]

Yeah they should test the biological weapon on you first, test the cure on you as well. Let's also test if the cure is effective on females (your wife) and maybe your kids as well to ensure it's safe for usage.

Fucking monkey

Are you talking about who is a monkey and who isn’t? The guy who probably jerks off on the photos of what Chemical Ali did in Northern Iraq...

 

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