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My solution is to let the F-35's fly without reflectors. If the F-35 is stealth, the S-400 will not see it. If the S-400 sees the F-35, it is already a big disappointment. Lockheed is fooling us.:D (it was an irony)
 
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My solution is to let the F-35's fly without reflectors. If the F-35 is stealth, the S-400 will not see it. If the S-400 sees the F-35, it is already a big disappointment. Lockheed is fooling us.:D (it was an irony)
We shall develop an identification system which labels F35s as flying S400 and S400 as sitting F35. A F35 will not engage with a F35 on the ground and a S400 will not shoot a flying S400.
 
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it is sad, how 99 mt MILGEM toothless without VLS-SAM
 
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it is sad, how 99 mt MILGEM toothless without VLS-SAM
It should have been explained like thousand times,
Number of crew, variety of missions can be conducted and unnecessity of VLS by having RAM launcher.
If very desired, Milgem could be updated with short-VLS to accommodate ESSMs too.
The systems above even doesnt have a proper hangar, or i doubt if they carry fuel for helicopters too.
 
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it is 99 mt and carry 90+ personnel, carrying out patrol in the middle of Mediterranean. so we use it as a Frigate. actually it is a light frigate but weapon suite is not enough. if i had chance i would put 2x8 vls , remove RAM and put gokdeniz instead of it.

kıyı sularda refakat ve denizaltı avı imiş o zaman kıyı sulardan çıkarma o gemiyi, üstünde 100 tane can taşıyor can, adam mevarick le bile angaje olabilir, bir kaç sortide gemi pert, yanlışsam yanlış deyin.
 
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İ dont understand why we spend öoney and time to TCG Anadolu. Its a big ship for missiles. Even swarm UGVs can disable kind a ship.

We build 4 Milgems without VLS and building ships with really low weapon load.
 
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TCG Anadolu with aircrafts on it is a game changer, this type of ships will not operate without escorted/protected by other ships.

MILGEM are one of the best corvettes you can find nowdays, look at the small Israeli Sa'ar 6 corvettes 2000 tonnes 32 VLS and 16 ASM, it's not that smart to put a huge amount of weapons on small vessels... one hit and you have a firework.
 
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would it be different for Milgem?

MILGEM is build for totally different purposes, mainly for operating near the shores and high sea patrol with ASW capabilities.

Sa'ar 5/6 corvettes are smaller than Milgem with (85-90m) lighter 1000-2000tonnes and their weaponry (32 VLS- 8/16ASM) is comparable to top frigates.
Too much weaponry is not always a blessing, certanly not when you stuffed every inch with weapons.
 
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