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Sounds interesting
There's a thread about it here https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turkey-buys-biggest-aircraft-carrier-from-spain.515856/ .... not so interesting, especially since it's not the first AC..
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http://aa.com.tr/en/europe/turkish-vessel-responds-to-greek-ships-emergency-call/904098
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A Turkish naval frigate responded to an emergency call from a Greek registered merchant vessel in the Indian Ocean late on Thursday, Turkish Naval Forces said.
According to a statement, the call came from the Greek ship "Aegean Angel" to the Turkish frigate TCG Giresun for the Greek ship's injured crew.
Vazoios Marcos, the wounded Greek sailor, was seen by the TCG Giresun's military doctor and later transferred to Oman’s Port of Salalah for further medical intervention.
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http://aa.com.tr/en/europe/turkish-vessel-responds-to-greek-ships-emergency-call/904098
ANKARA
A Turkish naval frigate responded to an emergency call from a Greek registered merchant vessel in the Indian Ocean late on Thursday, Turkish Naval Forces said.
According to a statement, the call came from the Greek ship "Aegean Angel" to the Turkish frigate TCG Giresun for the Greek ship's injured crew.
Vazoios Marcos, the wounded Greek sailor, was seen by the TCG Giresun's military doctor and later transferred to Oman’s Port of Salalah for further medical intervention.
Humanitarian Mission , what else ?
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Spanish shipbuilder’s landing craft sank under Australian tanks
RORY CALLINAN
The Australian
September 4, 2017
A Spanish company vying for a $30 billion Navy ship building contract is using a Youtube video to imply its landing craft can carry Australia’s heavy tanks despite the boat sinking too low in water when the armoured vehicle was put on board.
Navantia, one of three contenders for Australia’s $30 billion Future Frigates contract, has a contract worth about $240 million to supply Australia with 12 landing craft supposedly capable of carrying the army’s 62 tonne M1A1 Abrams tanks.
Defence has since confirmed trials of the boats had to be suspended after they sank to low in the water when the 62 tonne Abrams was put on board.
Despite the suspended trials Navantia, which is ramping up promotions in a bid to win the Future Frigates contract, has maintained a promotional video on YouTube implying their landing craft by using imagery of lighter Spanish tanks on the vessels.
The 3.52 second Navantia video is titled in Spanish “LLC for the Royal Australian Armada 12 units: 2012-2015” and features a few short clips of a tank reversing onto the landing craft. The vessel is then featured cruising along in a dead calm harbour carrying the tank,
At the conclusion of the video, text in Spanish appears on the screen stating: “Flexible load capacity: Abrams vehicle, various military vehicles an infantry company or a container truck of 6 meters.
The tank was likely an M60 Patton which was significantly lighter than the Australian’s Abrams tanks, said tank expert, former soldier and Leopard crewman Jason Belgrave from the Australian Armour and Artillery Museum last week.
Australia’s M1A1 Abrams are some of the heaviest modern tanks built weighing more than 10 tonnes than the M60 Patton vehicles which were designed in the 1960s.
Navantia last week declined to respond on whether the advertisement had misrepresented the landing craft’s capability.
“Navantia promotes a range of cutting edge capabilities from around the world in our promotional videos,’’ a Navantia spokeswoman said.
Defence said it had no concerns about the videos and has defended the tender process for the boat’s acquisition.
“The LHD landing craft were procured through a request for tender process. The performance of the landing craft and associated risks were assessed by Defence and agreed by the Government,’’ said Defence spokesman.
Concerns about the landing craft’s ability to carry the Abrams have already been raised both in a report by the Australian National Audit Office last year and in March in a Senate Defence Committee Estimates Hearing.
The ANAO last year reported that the landing craft had not reached Final Operational Capability (FOC) because trials needed to be done to confirm the ability to carry Australia’s M1A1 main battle tank.
The tank in the Navantia video clip was likely an M60 Patton which was significantly lighter than the Australian’s Abrams tanks, a tank expert says.
The tank in the Navantia video clip was likely an M60 Patton which was significantly lighter than the Australian’s Abrams tanks, a tank expert says.
It noted that subsequent trials conducted in May 2016 were unsuccessful. Carrying the M1A1 on the LHD landing craft required the operation of the craft in an overload state, it said.
It said significant issues needed to be addressed prior to project conclusion.
In March in answer to questions about the ANAO’s report, Defence’s Capability Acquisition and Sustainment Group deputy secretary Kim Gillis told the Defence Senate Estimates Committee that “prior to signing the contract for the Landing Helicopter Docks and the water craft (landing craft), they had been given a physical model of that specific landing craft carrying a tank “to which we added the additional weight to ensure that we would be able to carry the Abrams tank at the time.
“So we went through that process.”
In 2007, the then Coalition Government’s Defence Minister Brendan Nelson said landing craft to be acquired by the government would be able to carry the tanks.
Australia’s has 59 Abrams tanks none of which have ever been deployed in combat.
The landing craft are supposed to work in with Australia’s two Canberra class amphibious ships the Landing Helicopter Docks (LHD) moving men and equipment from the ships to shore when there are no fixed port facilities.
Navantia built the hulls of the LHDs.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/ff05c1bfa4339bebb1564a1198b7e530
Now we had a new question: What about Altay?
RORY CALLINAN
The Australian
September 4, 2017
A Spanish company vying for a $30 billion Navy ship building contract is using a Youtube video to imply its landing craft can carry Australia’s heavy tanks despite the boat sinking too low in water when the armoured vehicle was put on board.
Navantia, one of three contenders for Australia’s $30 billion Future Frigates contract, has a contract worth about $240 million to supply Australia with 12 landing craft supposedly capable of carrying the army’s 62 tonne M1A1 Abrams tanks.
Defence has since confirmed trials of the boats had to be suspended after they sank to low in the water when the 62 tonne Abrams was put on board.
Despite the suspended trials Navantia, which is ramping up promotions in a bid to win the Future Frigates contract, has maintained a promotional video on YouTube implying their landing craft by using imagery of lighter Spanish tanks on the vessels.
The 3.52 second Navantia video is titled in Spanish “LLC for the Royal Australian Armada 12 units: 2012-2015” and features a few short clips of a tank reversing onto the landing craft. The vessel is then featured cruising along in a dead calm harbour carrying the tank,
At the conclusion of the video, text in Spanish appears on the screen stating: “Flexible load capacity: Abrams vehicle, various military vehicles an infantry company or a container truck of 6 meters.
The tank was likely an M60 Patton which was significantly lighter than the Australian’s Abrams tanks, said tank expert, former soldier and Leopard crewman Jason Belgrave from the Australian Armour and Artillery Museum last week.
Australia’s M1A1 Abrams are some of the heaviest modern tanks built weighing more than 10 tonnes than the M60 Patton vehicles which were designed in the 1960s.
Navantia last week declined to respond on whether the advertisement had misrepresented the landing craft’s capability.
“Navantia promotes a range of cutting edge capabilities from around the world in our promotional videos,’’ a Navantia spokeswoman said.
Defence said it had no concerns about the videos and has defended the tender process for the boat’s acquisition.
“The LHD landing craft were procured through a request for tender process. The performance of the landing craft and associated risks were assessed by Defence and agreed by the Government,’’ said Defence spokesman.
Concerns about the landing craft’s ability to carry the Abrams have already been raised both in a report by the Australian National Audit Office last year and in March in a Senate Defence Committee Estimates Hearing.
The ANAO last year reported that the landing craft had not reached Final Operational Capability (FOC) because trials needed to be done to confirm the ability to carry Australia’s M1A1 main battle tank.
The tank in the Navantia video clip was likely an M60 Patton which was significantly lighter than the Australian’s Abrams tanks, a tank expert says.
The tank in the Navantia video clip was likely an M60 Patton which was significantly lighter than the Australian’s Abrams tanks, a tank expert says.
It noted that subsequent trials conducted in May 2016 were unsuccessful. Carrying the M1A1 on the LHD landing craft required the operation of the craft in an overload state, it said.
It said significant issues needed to be addressed prior to project conclusion.
In March in answer to questions about the ANAO’s report, Defence’s Capability Acquisition and Sustainment Group deputy secretary Kim Gillis told the Defence Senate Estimates Committee that “prior to signing the contract for the Landing Helicopter Docks and the water craft (landing craft), they had been given a physical model of that specific landing craft carrying a tank “to which we added the additional weight to ensure that we would be able to carry the Abrams tank at the time.
“So we went through that process.”
In 2007, the then Coalition Government’s Defence Minister Brendan Nelson said landing craft to be acquired by the government would be able to carry the tanks.
Australia’s has 59 Abrams tanks none of which have ever been deployed in combat.
The landing craft are supposed to work in with Australia’s two Canberra class amphibious ships the Landing Helicopter Docks (LHD) moving men and equipment from the ships to shore when there are no fixed port facilities.
Navantia built the hulls of the LHDs.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/ff05c1bfa4339bebb1564a1198b7e530
Now we had a new question: What about Altay?
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Turkey hasn't ordered those landing craft. That article uses "LHD" and "landing craft" interchangably when they're not the same thing.
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Four of them included in order
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Damn, I must've missed that. Let's hope we adjusted the design like we did for other parts of the LHD.
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Anyone know the model of the helmet of this guy? The picture is from"Dynamic Monarch- 17" NATO exercise
Its probaly OpsCore
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