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View attachment 399458 is it temren or hellfire?


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Analysis and speculations on TEMREM
For example, the MAM-L ammunition derived from UMTAS, which is not a rocket motor, weighs 22kg and uses the same 10kg head. You will decrease the title of this warhead from 10kg to several kg, so that with the extra weight you will get UMTAS 15-16km? Unforgetable we shoot a ship here, or we can leave a patrol boat of 20-30 meters on the smallest side or a pure discipline with only 3-4 kg of warhead. Original 10kg warhead (high explosive HE and fragmented warfare heading is preserved) is my guess. There are a few possibilities here:
1-TEMREN = UMTAS-L (laser-waved) and the range is 8km as in the black. Hellfire may be used as a nickname in the name of TEMREN in Seahawk helicopters. The first received Helifre AGM114M (Navy version) were only 84 receipts for received 8 Seahawks, which were first introduced in 2000's. Then 17 more Seahawks were picked up, but no additional Hellfire fusers were taken. In these new helicopters it is possible that the additional Hellfire-like laser-glowing fue requirement may be met through UMTAS-L (TDZK may have given TEMREN the name instead of Mizrak). With the AAS-44 FLIR system that makes laser designator work on Seahhawk, this solution is the right solution.
2-TEMREN = UMTAS-U (Laser and IIR) is a new size extension with a gudatory option and a more fuel-carrying rocket engine and fuze weight of 37.5kg, maybe 50kg, using the same 10kg warhead but a little longer minus 15 km. This time the laser may be a problem , because the current helicopter AAS-44 FLIR can not do laser designation at distances such as 15km. Designators using the newer technology diode-pump can make this work at a distance of 20km, for example on Aselpod or Sniper. TEMREN IIR (IIR headless without target designator can not see the target at that distance), it must use the lock on after launch feature of TEMRE in long range. At 4-5km the IIR title can be locked on before launch.
3- TEMREN = A brand new fuze developed for offshore engagements and we do not know the features yet. Let's say something like a penguin equivalent or a heavy fuze like Maverick.
 
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Helfire


I have that picture but i cant post it


No it is not. Appearance of that missile has nothing to do with Hellfire.
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It is Temren missile
 

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It is Temren missile

It is TEMREN official confirmed.

https://www.dzkk.tsk.tr/guncelduyuru.php?id=1129&dil=1

4. Seçkin Gözlemci Günü faaliyetleri kapsamında; SH-70 helikopterlerinden hareketli insansız suüstü hedefine HELLFIRE Güdümlü Mermisi ve münfesih bir gemiye milli imkânlarla üretilen Harp Başlıklı TEMREN Güdümlü Mermisi atışları gerçekleştirilmiştir.

Here the ship which was hit from the Turkish S-70 Sea-Hawk launched Temren Missile. Blast is big.


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No it is not. Appearance of that missile has nothing to do with Hellfire.
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It is Temren missile

Bro, I still have no clue what this missile is - It's not Cirit or Stinger, diameter is too large. I've been told it's a navalised version of UMTAS/MIZRAK-U (by Arda).. But why haven't they showcased it in IDEF'17 ? Naval guys, always being secretive :)

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May or may not be Chinese design but these guys don't know what they're talking about. 1 of them explicitly says he doesn't know anything about missiles. They say Khan and Bora are the same, then they say they're different. They don't offer any actual evidence that it's a Chinese design apart from "in 2009 there were things signed and they did exercises together" and "they have similar payload/range" - but then so does every export-oriented SRBM due to the MTCR. Not to mention they say Turkey is trying to not just make copies but understand the technology so she can develop it herself, but then Turkey already did that with Yildirim-1, so why assume this missile isn't a result of indigenous development like they claim? Also, they're very obviously biased against Turks.

Into the trash it goes.
 
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You behave another type of Hurshid.
I am going to ignore you in order to keep real news .:flood:

Seems like his 1ts priority is "forum posting". its like eating, drinking water, sleeping... One should come here and share when he or she has spare time only.. He wants to stand out but tolerable to a degree
 
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Seems like his 1ts priority is "forum posting". its like eating, drinking water, sleeping... One should come here and share when he or she has spare time only.. He wants to stand out but tolerable to a degree
Heavily unemployed :))
 
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At least he is posting topic related stuff instead of polluting and derailing the thread.
 
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