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The Turkish lira dropped to a historic low against the U.S. dollar on Thursday.

Starting the day at 2.7779, the Turkish lira hit 2.8213 in afternoon trading, then came back to about 2.808 against the U.S. currency.

Analysts say one possible cause of the decline is that emerging market currencies have been under pressure this week, in the wake of the devaluation of Chinese renminbi. The Chinese currency was devalued three times this week, with a total loss of about 5 percent against the dollar.

All emerging market currencies have lost value this year against major currencies.

The Colombian peso has shed 22 percent of its value against the dollar since January 1. The Turkish lira is down about 19 percent over the same period. The Brazilian real is down 25 percent. The Mexican peso declined 8.6 percent.

Turkish lira falls to historic low against US dollar Anadolu Agency
 
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1 US$ = 2.83 turkish lira
1 US Dollar = 29738.00 Iranian Rial


now this is we can call fall
Here is a news thread not a trolling thread, stop trolling!! Iranian rial hasn't changed during 150 years ago !!!! While turkish one has changed and turks have deleted four of its zeros.

How come the Iranian rial is so low. What may be the causes of this?

Well I have been to Turkey btw. I don't remember them using the lira anyway. Transactions were made in euro currency. I might be wrong because my memory is a little fuzzy and I have been to said place a long time ago.

1 US$ = 2830 turkish lira (before turks delete four of it's zeros)

1 US$ = 29738 rial = 2.9 toman
1 Dollar = 1.2 toman (in 2010 before European/US sanctions)

In Iran we use/call every 10,000 rials as one toman , we never use diminutive rials. 10,000 rials = one toman. We don't use its diminutive zeros. When Iranian used rial in Safavid time no dollar even existed! And it's value has not changed for at least 150 - 200 years ago. This currency is very very old. However as I said we don't use rial and we have deleted four zeros. 1 toman = 2.9 dollar. A simple way to compare currencies in different countries with each other is comparing them with value of a sandwich. A sandwich in Iran is "15 tomans" (150000 rials) and in US is 10 dollars= "30 tomans"

As I said the four zeros are useless, they're something like peny or other diminutive currencies. Also Turkey has already deleted four of Lira zeros.

Here is a simple comparison:

- Galaxy Note 4 in Iran is 1.699 toman (16990000 rial)

- Galaxy Note 4 In Turkey is 1.849 lira

http://www.digikala.com/Product/DKP...0H-32GB/گوشي-موبايل-سامسونگ-گلکسي-نوت-4-N910H

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 N910CQ Fiyatı - Taksit Seçenekleri
 
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Here is a news thread not a trolling thread, stop trolling!! Iranian rial hasn't changed during 150 years ago !!!! While turkish one has changed and turks have deleted four of its zeros.
How come the Iranian rial is so low. What may be the causes of this?

Well I have been to Turkey btw. I don't remember them using the lira anyway. Transactions were made in euro currency. I might be wrong because my memory is a little fuzzy and I have been to said place a long time ago.
 
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How come the Iranian rial is so low. What may be the causes of this?

Well I have been to Turkey btw. I don't remember them using the lira anyway. Transactions were made in euro currency. I might be wrong because my memory is a little fuzzy and I have been to said place a long time ago.

Mostly because economic productivity is low in Iran as well as to a lesser extent due to the sanctions.

But Turkey's situation is not much different. Lira was very low even lower than Rial. Lira had devalued so much that over a million Lira was equal to a dollar. Later on in 2005 and 2006, Turkey removed six zeroes from its currency and made parity with dollar. But now again it has been going down and has devalued near to 300% in the past 8 years.

Moral of the story: Removing zeroes is not a solution. Underlying economy and monetary policies must be addressed.
 
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Mostly because economic productivity is low in Iran as well as to a lesser extent due to the sanctions.

But Turkey's situation is not much different. Lira was very low even lower than Rial. Lira had devalued so much that over a million Lira was equal to a dollar. Later on in 2005 and 2006, Turkey removed six zeroes from its currency and made parity with dollar. But now again it has been going down and has devalued near to 300% in the past 8 years.

Moral of the story: Removing zeroes is not a solution. Underlying economy and monetary policies must be addressed.
Exactly. :tup:
 
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Turkey industrial country. Export-Import do it. Reduce imports, increase exports and reduce the value for money.

We are not an oil country. The drop is good value for money Exporter. Because a lot of money wins. The win makes imports less ..

China also lowered the value of money. Turkey also reduced the value for money for the competition.
 
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Moral of the story: Removing zeroes is not a solution. Underlying economy and monetary policies must be addressed.
The zeros have to do with the hyper inflation that Turkey was strugling with for decades but it dropped now from historic hight of 120% to 7% which still is high but a lot lower than Iran which has around 16%...

Türkei - Inflationsrate

Iran - Inflationsrate

You first have to recude Inflation which was done in order to remove zeros

Plus the devaluation helped to decrease the trade deficit.

Turkey’s Trade Deficit Narrows 22 Percent in June on Imports - Bloomberg Business
 
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International Reserves and Foreign Currency Liquidity - TURKEY

Current Data: In Millions of US Dollars (end of period)

I. Official reserve assets and other foreign currency assets (approximate market value) 4

June 2015
A. Official reserve assets 119,608.26
(1) Foreign currency reserves (in convertible foreign currencies) 99,244.00
(a) Securities 92,097.00
of which: issuer headquartered in reporting country but located abroad 0.00
(b) total currency and deposits with: 7,147.00
(i) other national central banks, BIS and IMF 7,056.00
(ii) banks headquartered in the reporting country 3.00
of which: located abroad 3.00
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of which: located in the reporting country 0.00
(2) IMF reserve position 158.00
(3) SDRs 1,355.00
(4) gold (including gold deposits and, if appropriate, gold swapped)5 18,851.00
-volume in millions of fine troy ounces 16.07
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-financial derivatives 0.00
-loans to nonbank nonresidents 0.00
-other 0.00
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-securities not included in official reserve assets 0.00
-deposits not included in official reserve assets 0.00
-loans not included in official reserve assets 0.00
-financial derivatives not included in official reserve assets 0.00
-gold not included in official reserve assets 0.00
-other 0.00
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Interest -3,857.00 -294.00 -897.00 -2,666.00
-inflows (+) Principal 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Interest 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
2. Aggregate short and long positions in forwards and futures in foreign currencies vis-à-vis the domestic currency (including the forward leg of currency swaps) 7
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(b) Long positions (+) 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
3. Other (specify) 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
-outflows related to repos (-)
-inflows related to reverse repos (+)
-trade credit (-)
-trade credit (+)
-other accounts payable (-)
-other accounts receivable (+)
8 0.00
3. Undrawn, unconditional credit lines9 provided by: 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(a) other national monetary authorities, BIS, IMF, and other international organizations
-other national monetary authorities (+)
-BIS (+)
-IMF (+)
-other international organizations (+)
(b) with banks and other financial institutions headquartered in the reporting country (+)
(c) with banks and other financial institutions headquartered outside the reporting country (+)
4. Undrawn, unconditional credit lines provided to: 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(a) other national monetary authorities, BIS, IMF, and other international organizations
-other national monetary authorities (-)
-BIS (-)
-IMF (-)
-other international organizations (-)
(b) banks and other financial institutions headquartered in reporting country (- )
(c) banks and other financial institutions headquartered outside the reporting country ( - )
5. Aggregate short and long positions of options in foreign currencies vis-à-vis the domestic currency 10
(a) Short positions 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(i) Bought puts
(ii) Written calls
(b) Long positions 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(i) Bought calls
(ii) Written puts
PRO MEMORIA: In-the-money options 11
(1) At current exchange rate
(a) Short position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(b) Long position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(2) + 5 % (depreciation of 5%)
(a) Short position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(b) Long position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(3) - 5 % (appreciation of 5%)
(a) Short position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(b) Long position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(4) +10 % (depreciation of 10%)
(a) Short position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
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(5) - 10 % (appreciation of 10%)
(a) Short position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
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(a) Short position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
(b) Long position 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
12
(a) short-term domestic currency debt indexed to the exchange rate 0.00
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-derivatives (forwards, futures, or options contracts)
-short positions
-long positions
-other instruments
(c) pledged assets14 0.00
-included in reserve assets
-included in other foreign currency assets
(d) securities lent and on repo15 0.00
-lent or repoed and included in Section I
-lent or repoed but not included in Section I
-borrowed or acquired and included in Section I
-borrowed or acquired but not included in Section I
(e) financial derivative assets (net, marked to market) 16 0.00
-forwards
-futures
-swaps
-options
-other
(f) derivatives (forward, futures, or options contracts) that have a residual maturity greater than one year. 0.00
-aggregate short and long positions in forwards and futures in foreign currencies vis-à-vis the domestic currency (including the forward leg of currency swaps)
(a) short positions ( - ) 0.00
(b) long positions (+) 0.00
-aggregate short and long positions of options in foreign currencies vis-à-vis the domestic currency
(a) short positions 0.00
(i) bought puts
(ii) written calls
(b) long positions 0.00
(i) bought calls
(ii) written puts
(2) To be disclosed at least once a year:
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-currencies in SDR basket 118,207.00
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-by individual currencies (optional)

Footnotes:

1. In principle, only instruments denominated and settled in foreign currency (or those whose valuation is directly dependent on the exchange rate and that are settled in foreign currency) are to be included in categories I, II, and III of the template. Financial instruments denominated in foreign currency and settled in other ways (e.g., in domestic currency or commodities) are included as memo items under Section IV.

2. Netting of positions is allowed only if they have the same maturity, are against the same counterparty, and a master netting agreement is in place. Positions on organized exchanges could also be netted.

3. See definition of monetary authorities in paragraph 21 of the Guidelines.

4. In cases of large positions vis-à-vis institutions headquartered in the reporting country, in instruments other than deposits or securities, they should be reported as separate items.

5. The valuation basis for gold assets should be disclosed; ideally this would be done by showing the volume and price.

6. Including interest payments due within the corresponding time horizons. Foreign currency deposits held by nonresidents with central banks should also be included here. Securities referred to are those issued by the monetary authorities and the central government (excluding social security).

7. In the event that there are forward or futures positions with a residual maturity greater than one year, these should be reported separately under Section IV.

8. Only bonds with a residual maturity greater than one year should be reported under this item, as those with shorter maturities will already be included in Section II, above.

9. Reporters should distinguish potential inflows and potential outflows resulting from contingent lines of credit and report them separately, in the specified format.

10. In the event that there are options positions with a residual maturity greater than one year, these should be reported separately under Section IV.

11. These "stress-tests" are an encouraged, rather than a prescribed, category of information in the IMF's Special Data Dissemination Standard (SDDS). Results of the stress-tests could be disclosed in the form of a graph. As a rule, notional value should be reported. However, in the case of cash-settled options, the estimated future inflow/outflow should be disclosed. Positions are "in the money" or would be, under the assumed values.

12. Distinguish between assets and liabilities where applicable.

13. Identify types of instrument; the valuation principles should be the same as in Sections I-III. The notional value of derivatives should be shown in the same format as for the nominal/notional values of forwards/futures in Section II and options in Section III.

14. Only assets included in Section I that are pledged should be reported here.

15. Assets that are lent or repoed should be reported here, whether or not they have been included in Section I of the template, along with any associated liabilities (in Section II). However, these should be reported in two separate categories, depending on whether or not they have been included in Section I. Similarly, securities that are borrowed or acquired under repo agreements should be reported as a separate item and treated symmetrically. Market values should be reported and the accounting treatment disclosed.

16. Identify types of instrument. The main characteristics of internal models used to calculate the market value should be disclosed.
Country Notes:
1)"Share Participations"" and ""Other Assets/Other"" items under the balance sheet of the Central Bank, which comprised ""I.B. Other Foreign Currency Assets"" section, are not liquid assets according to the IMF's reserve definition. Hence, they were excluded from above-mentioned section as of January 2013, but still kept in the books of the Central Bank of Turkey."

2)Foreign Exchange Deposit Accounts with Credit Letters of Turkish citizens residing abroad held in Central Bank
with remaining maturity of one year or less are reported in section II-1 of the template as predetermined drains
with principal and interest payments breakdown.

3)Foreign Exchange Deposit Accounts with Credit Letters of Turkish citizens residing abroad held in Central Bank
with remaining maturity of more than one year and commercial banks? reserve requirements held at the Central Bank
as foreign currency and gold are classified in section III-1-b of the template under ?other contingent liabilities?
as total.Standard gold held as required reserves recorded USD 14,473 million in June 2015.
 
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1 US$ = 2830 turkish lira (before turks delete four of it's zeros)

1 US$ = 29738 rial = 2.9 toman
1 Dollar = 1.2 toman (in 2010 before European/US sanctions)

In Iran we use/call every 10,000 rials as one toman , we never use diminutive rials. 10,000 rials = one toman. We don't use its tiny diminutive zeros. When Iranian used rial in Qajar of Safavid time no dollar even existed! And it's value has not changed for at least 150 - 200 years ago. This currency is very very old. [something like 100 yens of Japan] However as I said we don't use rial and we have deleted four zeros. 1 toman = 2.9 dollar. A simple way to compare currencies in different countries with each other is comparing them with value of a sandwich. A sandwich in Iran is "15 tomans" (15,0000 rials) and in US is 10 dollars= "30 tomans"

As I said the four zeros are useless, they're something like pennis or other diminutive currencies. Also Turkey has already deleted four of Lira zeros.

Anyway I dubt dumb guys here understand what I said.


"The Iranian rial (in Persian: ریال ایران‎; ISO 4217 code IRR) is the currency of Iran.[5]

Although the “toman” is no longer an official unit of Iranian currency, Iranians commonly express amounts of money and prices of goods in "tomans." For this purpose, one "toman" equals 10 rials. Despite this usage, amounts of money and prices of goods are virtually always written in rials. For example, the sign next to a loaf of bread in a store would state the price in rials, e.g., "100,000 Rials," even though the clerk, if asked, would say that the bread costs "10,000 tomans."."

Iranian rial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1 USD = 29738.00 IRR

This iranian doesn't seem to understand what a "unit" of currency is.
 
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The Turkish lira dropped to a historic low against the U.S. dollar on Thursday.

Starting the day at 2.7779, the Turkish lira hit 2.8213 in afternoon trading, then came back to about 2.808 against the U.S. currency.

Analysts say one possible cause of the decline is that emerging market currencies have been under pressure this week, in the wake of the devaluation of Chinese renminbi. The Chinese currency was devalued three times this week, with a total loss of about 5 percent against the dollar.

All emerging market currencies have lost value this year against major currencies.

The Colombian peso has shed 22 percent of its value against the dollar since January 1. The Turkish lira is down about 19 percent over the same period. The Brazilian real is down 25 percent. The Mexican peso declined 8.6 percent.

Turkish lira falls to historic low against US dollar Anadolu Agency
bro i fail to understand the logic behind this whole thread. Turkish economy is as stronger as it can get and it is getting stronger.

few cents do not effect big economies and sometime they undervalue their currencies on purpose.

2 years ago Australian dollar was stronger then American dollar i think it was 1AUD = 1.10USD and today its 0.76AUD = 1USD, but trust me we did not feel any difference, Australian economy is still stronger, infect a little weaker dollar rate is helping Australian economy as the price of production of products decreases which helps the economy to compete in international market.
 
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