Saddam Hussein
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The Operation ES was conducted without the half of the high military commanders without almost none proper preparation in a moment that was the worst in Turkey's recent history. Almost without air power fvcking up US dreams and jamming Russian air defense equipment in the same time. Interesting to hear that from a guy who's country doesn't have proper control over 60% of the country and is relying onto Iranian proxy militias.
The operation was conducted as it was, there will never be a perfect situation and operation. You seem to rely on the concept of perfect leadership, planning, management and strategy and you base your entire belief of outcomes on that in favor of Turkey. It does not work that way, if it did it would count for your enemies as well.
These militia's are locals, our own people and have become state accepted and regulated, similar to your jandarma.
That OP was fought by Syrians mainly and that's a small OP, not conventional.I would talk about operation Olive Branch which demonstrated the usage of technological capabilities like dummy tanks and suicide drones which small entity of the world have the capability to use and also our special forces and commando units which also went viral after foreign SDF fighters expressed their fears publicly. Our losses were also minimal. Our military intelligence part of the Special Forces Command was also a pearl in the ocean which not much was talked about. I can't create another Mosul and also I don't want to create one. Our soldiers first must leave our weapons behind and run so it happens that way.
Conventional war is not easy but you want to compare Turkey to Egypt? What is so special about Egypt? They can't face us not in the air, not in the sea could do resistance in the land tough. There is a reason for that Turkish soldiers everywhere they get under UN or NATO international missions are given tasks about training the local forces. Today's wars are wars of professional soldiers not of conscripts but if needed I am also sure that the conscripts will do whatever they have to do.
Every NATO member is assigned to train local forces, even Denmark which is the furthest away from wars, even Poland, even Spain. If Egyptian F-16's are armed with AIM-120 then your advantage over them in the air is gone, that factor is entirely based on an American product, not you or anything related to you. Despite that you don't have the military capability to overpower them.
If Turkey is experienced in conventional warfare then so is Egypt. Which conventional war did Turkey fight, when was the last time. Don't say Cyprus that's ages ago, those soldiers are now old as hell like Egypt's Israel war soldiers.While Turkey is experienced country when it comes both to conventional and guerilla warfare with what is Greece experienced? With what is Egypt experienced?
Tiny Israel managed to beat all Arab countries to the point they yield. We are not talking about invasion like in Lord of the Rings we are talking about technological superiority and patriotism. We have very close capabilities to that of Israel and if they do it we can also do it. Let alone that we are not step back in terms of patriotism.
Tiny Lebanon recently trashed the IDF and their Merkava tanks in 2006, but let's not look at that let's look at 40-50 years ago.
TuAF did not face a conventional air-air enemy other than some dogfighting with Greece, drop this whole experience stuff. Their equipment is good but the experience remains mostly in training.Where in the region you will get more experienced air forces then TuAF? War is not piece of cake but you are talking about Turkey here.
Relatively every Turk in Europe is paying that number to shorten or avoid conscription.We are adding more and more technology every day and we are superior to the regional powers equipment in almost every aspect. With every day there is improvement of the training of the professional units within the Turkish Armed Forces. When you talk about courage you can see the night of 15th July. If some people paid 10.000 euro to not serve there were people who went on the streets that night and showed what sacrifice means because nobody went on the streets thinking that everything will be all right tomorrow.
Yeah because no one else in the middle east sacrificed their life's for a cause.
Yes **** all that, leave that story for museums. The whole region has been in war for decades, you're over there fighting the PKK in mountains thinking you're the only one. Japan has a savage military tradition that would trash the entire region, today they watch anime. It is irrelevant.Turkey is a country with deep military tradition. A country which is famous with its nationalist and emotional people. I don't think a lot of nations can compare to the Turkish one in that criteria and I say it again. No military power can face Turkey other than Iran in conventional warfare. Oh lets add Israel to that list. It's not a piece of cake but if needed we can.