Turkish forces would suffer Great losses in war with Egypt in Libya

[Philip the Arab]

I don't have any solutions.

But I can see who is what.

And Arab nations are completely facked by others from outside the region.

I've been watching this ish since before you were born probably.

Not taking shots at Arabs, just disappointed after I realized what the reality is.

What would you want? A constant war? Many here are quick to call out Arab countries while offering no realistic way, and just yelling "Why didn't you free Palestine"

 

[Avicenna]

What would you want? A constant war?

No.

I want cooperation.

Real cooperation.

Can you imagine a scenario where Egypt and Turkey work together to secure the region.

Where would that put Israel and Greece?

 

[Philip the Arab]

No.

I want cooperation.

Real cooperation.

Can you imagine a scenario where Egypt and Turkey work together to secure the region.

Where would that put Israel and Greece?

Turkey loves Israel, although Erdowan makes it seem he doesn't by his speech. And Egypt and Turkey couldn't do anything against Israel with the USA in the picture even in this scenario.

 

[Avicenna]

Turkey loves Israel, although Erdowan makes it seem he doesn't by his speech. And Egypt and Turkey couldn't do anything against Israel with the USA in the picture even in this scenario.

No I don't think so. (This goes beyond Erdogan)

Think about the big picture here.

I know what I am saying.

And some people want the exact opposite to happen which it is.

 

[Philip the Arab]

No I don't think so. (This goes beyond Ergodan)

Think about the big picture here.

I know what I am saying.

And some people want the exact opposite to happen which it is.

Ok, if Turkey can elect a secular or at least a non-Islamist leader this could be possible but as long as a Islamist leaning president is the leader of Turkey this is impossible. Islamism doesn't work in Egypt, there would have been a civil war by now if Morsi had stayed in power.

 

[Avicenna]

Ok, if Turkey can elect a secular or at least a non-Islamist leader this could be possible but as long as a Islamist leaning president is the leader of Turkey this is impossible.

What I am proposing is on the basis of Islamic unity.

Is that that the same as "Islamism"?

No.

But that mindset is needed for what I would like.

Forget it happening under any "secular" regime.

Also, any such movement will be CRUSHED by outside and inside forces.

It's all in our traditions bud.

I am not reinventing the wheel here.

 

[Philip the Arab]

What I am proposing is on the basis of Islamic unity.

Is that that the same as "Islamism"?

No.

But that mindset is needed for what I would like.

Forget it happening under any "secular" regime.

It could easily happen under a non-Islamist(and non Imperialist) regime in Turkey, Turkey wanted the MB to be in power so that he could have a Islamist puppet. Islamic unity is a dead concept m8.

 

[Avicenna]

It could easily happen under a non-Islamist(and non Imperialist) regime in Turkey, Turkey wanted the MB to be in power so that he could have a Islamist puppet. Islamic unity is a dead concept m8.

It's integral to Islam mate.

The problem is its not being implemented properly.

We muslims are the problem.

And you can see the consequences on the evening news.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

There is nothing that can be done short of perpetual war with Israel which would lead to millions of deaths, you offered literally no solid solutions or anything that is meaningful. Saudis tryed coming up with solutions but Israel rejected them all.


Fair enough, assuming they could have won then they probably would have been allied with the GCC. Here's to hoping Assad can stop being a cum swallower of Iran, I could care less about Russia's influence there. He will be an important part of relations between Turkey and Arab countries.

Too much damage has been done due to failed policies. Assad isn't going to trust most Arab states. Syria used to be heavily militarized, it's only till after the war that Iran and Turkey gained more influence there.

Likewise Kuwait's pettiness against Iraq together with king Fahds short sightedness ruined Iraq which was the only wall against Iran.

Turkey and Iran don't even have to try, other Arabs are paving the way for them. This is sad, but true.

As for Yemen, it has been bombed to utter shit our fellow Arabs by other Arabs. For no major reason. MBS his ego of appearing tough mostly. There's no pan arabism in these leaders.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Too much damage has been done due to failed policies. Assad isn't going to trust most Arab states. Syria used to be heavily militarized, it's only till after the war that Iran and Turkey gained more influence there.

Likewise Kuwait's pettiness against Iraq together with king Fahds short sightedness ruined Iraq which was the only wall against Iran.

Turkey and Iran don't even have to try, other Arabs are paving the way for them. This is sad, but the.

Qatar should have been invaded when the Emiratis, and the Saudis had the chance, now they are becoming a terrorist country in the middle east.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Qatar should have been invaded when the Emiratis, and the Saudis had the chance, now they are becoming a terrorist country in the middle east.

Amongst many other things that should have been done. The Arabs have destroyed one another over inner differences. Only for it to be exploited by non Arabs in the region.

Turkey and Iran are not doing any arab states any favours. Arab world needs a lot of inner fixing, our people also go extreme on Islam which is a problem.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Amongst many other things that should have been done. The Arabs have destroyed one another over inner differences. Only for it to be exploited by non Arabs in the region.

Turkey and Iran are not doing any arab states any favours. Arab world needs a lot of inner fixing, our people also go extreme on Islam which is a problem.

Is there a way for GCC to fight Iranian influence in Iraq?

 

[The SC]

Strong source/link.

Listen, I want your guys to win.

A fellow Bengali shot down 4 Israeli fighters as a member of PAF.

We in South Asia are with you against Israel.

The problem lays in the fact that you guys in the Middle East are completely dysfunctional and allow yourselves to be taken advantage of by outsiders.

Anyways, I hope there can be reconciliation between all muslim majority nation states.

Very strong sources and links throughout the article ..and strong source at the end..or you can't believe your eyes..

A few Arab countries are dysfunctional since the Arab spring and Iraq because of that huge war.. there are 25 Arab countries only 4 are having trouble..

We all wish well for Majority Muslim nations.. that is in the heart.. but we all need to deal with the challenges of the hour..

Looks like pagan arabs are heavily betting on sissi. Let me allow you into a secret! If a war breaks out against Turkey then sissi army won't fair any better than assads army. There will eventually be a regime change starting with egypt to the rest of gulf arabs countries.
Egyptians will eventually side with Erdogan against pagan arabs.

Looks like you are an ignorant..

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Is there a way for GCC to fight Iranian influence in Iraq?

Supporting the state and army rather than advocating against it as pre-2014. A strong centralised state means no room for militias

I don't know who is policymaker in the GCC but they've made the choices that benefit their enemies all the time

 

[Dariush the Great]

I don't know who is policymaker in the GCC but they've made the choices that benefit their enemies all the time

well you should know, and i will tell you. but it won't be really shocking to you : It is the US.