Turkish Defense Industry by 2030 - catch up with the UK , France and Germany

[MMM-E]

Turkey has had access to far more technology that Russia or China has and has not had to develop everything from scratch either.

which one ? USA-Europe even use arms embargo on Turkiye


Canada blocked selling of WESCAM E/O System for Turkish UCAVs
and Turkiye has developed its own CATS E/O System


USA , The Netherlands , Italy blocked sale of MK-41 VLS , ESSM , RAM , PHALANX , 76mm naval gun , SMART-S RADAR

And Turkiye has developed its own
-- MIDLAS VLS
-- ADVENT CMS
-- CENK-S AESA Radar
-- ALPER LPI Surface Radar
-- AKREP Fire Control Radar
-- FERSAH SONAR
-- ARES-2N Electronic Warfare System
-- PIRI Panoramic Infrared Imaging
-- KATS Infrared Search and Track system
-- MKE 76mm naval gun
-- HISAR-D SAM
-- ATMACA anti-ship Missile
-- GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
-- ORKA Torpedo
-- HIZIR Torpedo counter measure System


Nobody helps Turkiye to develop weapons

 

[Foinikas]

@Ali_Baba Welcome to the "troll team". Apparently,we are dozens of people from different countries,religion,culture and social class and we are somehow all against MMM-E and his posts,because we are all "ignorant,lying,trolls" who "attack" his posts and threads with "anti-Turkiye propaganda" and "lies".

 

[MMM-E]

@Ali_Baba Welcome to the "troll team". Apparently,we are dozens of people from different countries,religion,culture and social class and we are somehow all against MMM-E and his posts,because we are all "ignorant,lying,trolls" who "attack" his posts and threads with "anti-Turkiye propaganda" and "lies".

Prove your claims or stop lying

@Ali_Baba gave false info about Turkish defense industry

only 2 projects are with western companies
T-129 Attack Helicopter with Italy
TCG ANADOLU amphibious assault Ship with Spain

nothing else ..

Turkey is not starting from scratch - they have most of the infrastructure they need via collaboration with western companies and TOT arrangements.

 

[Foinikas]

Prove your claims or stop lying

When I kept asking you to prove your own claims,you ignored me and didn't even give a straight answer. So stop your nonsense and act like a grown man. Enough with your crying and nagging. You're pissing off everyone on the forum.

 

[MMM-E]

When I kept asking you to prove your own claims,you ignored me and didn't even give a straight answer. So stop your nonsense and act like a grown man. Enough with your crying and nagging. You're pissing off everyone on the forum.

What a stupid troll
You and your troll team are crying on my threads since 2021

Prove your stupid claims or stop trolling
jealous idiot from backward Greece which produce nothing


I have proved my claim .. read again troll
only 2 projects are with western companies
T-129 Attack Helicopter with Italy
TCG ANADOLU amphibious assault Ship with Spain


now you and @Ali_Baba prove it or stop lying

Turkey is not starting from scratch - they have most of the infrastructure they need via collaboration with western companies and TOT arrangements.

 

[Foinikas]

GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS

Are you f telling me that Gokdeniz is not a blatant copy or inspired by Oerlikon's Millenium Gun?

That MKE 76mm isn't copied or inspired by Oto Melara 76mm?

That so many of your projects are based on Western,Russian or Chinese equipment?

What a stupid troll
You and your troll team are crying on my threads since 2021

Here we go again...

 

[MMM-E]

Are you f telling me that Gokdeniz is not a blatant copy or inspired by Oerlikon's Millenium Gun?

That MKE 76mm isn't copied or inspired by Oto Melara 76mm?

That so many of your projects are based on Western,Russian or Chinese equipment?

without technology you can not even copy other weapons .. stupid troll

if so easy
go and try copying 757 military projects .. stupid liar troll

Turkish MKE since 1921
Turkish ASELSAN since 1975
Turkish ROKETSAN since 1988

GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS and MKE 76 mm naval gun are 100% Turkish technology and have been developed by Turkish engineers

GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS with 35 mm ATOM airburst ammunition

Backward Greece can not produce even 35 mm CIWS

 

[MMM-E]

President ERDOGAN

The maximum target range of the TAYFUN Ballistic Missile is 1,000 km , not 561 km


Athens 250 km
Damascus 300 km
Tel Aviv 500 km
Baghdat 500 km
Tehran 700 km
Cairo 750 km

Greece , Egypt , Israel , Iraq , Iran , Libya ( Tobruk )

Turkish Media Presents New Map: Tayfun's New Range Covers All Of Greece

Turkish media are now presenting new maps that show the Tayfun missile with a longer range. The new maps come following the statements made by Turkish

greekcitytimes.com

 

[Ali_Baba]

What a stupid troll
You and your troll team are crying on my threads since 2021

Prove your stupid claims or stop trolling , crying
jealous idiot from backward Greece which produce nothing


I have proved my claim .. read again troll
only 2 projects are with western companies
T-129 Attack Helicopter with Italy
TCG ANADOLU amphibious assault Ship with Spain


now you and @Ali_Baba prove it or stop lying

Most of the military weapons manufacturing infrastructure that the Turkey is "now" using to build "its own designs now" are derived from building weapons under license for Turkey, or as a result of TOT arrangements that integrated Turkish companies to be providers of components or subsystems.

eg ASELSAN started off manufacturing American designed battlefield radios, radars under TOT/license - and then switched over to making its own designs.

Factories that once made F16s and components for the F35 are now making TFX's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Turkey’s defense industry has boomed in the last decade with local designs - yes - and before that - it was making foreign designs under TOT, or components for export to the western countries under TOT arrangements it made for purchasing a number of systems in the last few decades ...

It is delusional to say - that within 10-15 years that Turkey has built all the infrastructure, engineers and institutions from scratch...

Much of Turkey’s defense industry was and in some areas, is still dependent on Western military technology.. eg Turkey’s biggest naval vessel—the 27,000-ton, amphibious assault ship TCG Anadolu—is based on the Spanish Juan Carlo I. A large chunk of Turkey’s modern navy vessels, including the Barbaross class frigates, Yavuz class frigates, and Kılıç class fast attack craft, were designed in Germany...

Turkey’s attempt to build an indigenously produced fighter jet relies on a British company eg BAe to provide support ...

The Altay battle tank is technologically assisted by a South Korean company..

Turkey has done extremely well to try and field so many new local systems - but they are all derived from decades of experience and technological co-operation with the west that helped build the institutions that allow Turkey to try and build these systems at home now with local designs.

Don't call me a liar based of your own delusions of how it takes to build institutions like ASELSAN before they can venture out and build their own designs .....

 

[Foinikas]

Athens 250 km
Damascus 300 km
Tel Aviv 500 km
Baghdat 500 km
Tehran 700 km
Cairo 750 km

Every bullshit Erdogan says,you believe it like a child.

 

[MMM-E]

eg ASELSAN started off manufacturing American designed battlefield radios, radars under TOT/license - and then switched over to making its own designs.

You know nothing about Aselsan

American designed battlefield radios ?
and No any American Radar under license ... stop lying
USA-Europe did not give any TOT to ASELSAN ..... never

only Dutch SMART-S 3D Radar was produced under license by ASELSAN
( but no any TOT )


ASELSAN was established in 1975 , after American arms embargo on Turkiye in 1975


Nobody gave any technology to ASELSAN

İn 1980-1981 Aselsan has developed first handheld and back radios
in 1983 Aselsan made the first export for radios
in 1989 Aselsan made the first technology transfer to Pakistan for radios


ASELSAN itself developed everything ... no any TOT from USA-Europe

-- Radars in bands of VHF, UHF, S, L, C, X, Ku, Ka , W band

-- GaN based AESA Radars .. land-airborne-naval ( MURAD , ERALP , CENK-S , CAFRAD )

-- Quantum well infrared photodetectors ( HgCdTe , QWIP, InSb , InGaAs )
only USA,Turkiye,Israel,France in the world

-- Microbolometer-type infrared detector sets
-- Uncooled short wavelength infrared detector sets
-- High Success Multi Precessor CPU Card

-- Targeting and Jamming Pods
only USA,Turkiye,Israel,France,Chhina,Russia in the world

-- Electronic Warfare Systems REDET-II , KORAL , SANCAK , VURAL , MILKAR3A

-- IIR and RF seekers

-- E/O Systems

-- Avionics and Navigation Systems
Inertial Navigation Systems both for land and air platforms
Airborne Radios
Multifunction Displays
CDU Flight Management System
Thermal Imaging System
ASELPOD Targeting System
Avionic Central Control Computers


-- Soft-kill and hard-kill counter- measure against Torpedo

-- HEWS Helicopter Electronic Warfare Suite

-- FEWS Fighter Jet Electronic Warfare Suite

-- Microwave Modules
Ttransmitter/receiver modules, front-end modules, frequency converters, power amplifier modules, digital frequency discriminators (DFD), logarithmic video amplifiers (DLVA), filters, monolithic microwave integrated circuits (MMIC)

-- Communication Satellites and surveillance & reconnaissance Satellites
Turkiye is one of 10 countries in the world that developed its own Communication Satellite


Thermal Cameras
Cryptography and Information Security Systems
Military Communication Systems
Guidance and Unmanned Systems
Security Systems
Traffic & Automation Systems
Land and Weapon Systems
Energy Systems
even Healthcare Sytems


You are saying like USA-Europe gave all those technologies to Turkiye

You ignore the decades of work and effort of Turkish engineers

only one example
ASELSAN Turkish engineers have developed this technology in 14 years

Quantum well infrared photodetectors ( HgCdTe , QWIP, InSb , InGaAs )
only USA,Turkiye,Israel,France in the world

Don't call me a liar based of your own delusions of how it takes to build institutions like ASELSAN before they can venture out and build their own designs .....

get out now ignorant liar

 

[MMM-E]

Much of Turkey’s defense industry was and in some areas, is still dependent on Western military technology.. eg Turkey’s biggest naval vessel—the 27,000-ton, amphibious assault ship TCG Anadolu—is based on the Spanish Juan Carlo I. A large chunk of Turkey’s modern navy vessels, including the Barbaross class frigates, Yavuz class frigates, and Kılıç class fast attack craft, were designed in Germany...

You are a liar , nothing else

I already said TCG ANADOLU from Spain
Barbaross and Yavuz class Frigates are not Turkish but German MEKO-200 .... stop giving false info


Turkish technology weapons

ADA class Corvette
ISTIF class Frigate
TUZLA class Patrol Boat
HISAR class OPV
BAYRAKTAR class LST
TCG UFUK Electronic Warfare Ship
TCG DERYA Replenishment Combat Support Ship 195 m
MOSHİP
Unmanned Vessels

also TF-2000 class Destroyer and MILDEN class AIP Submarine under development

also Missiles and all subsystems were developed by Turkiye without any TOT

-- CENK-S and CAFRAD GaN based AESA Radars
-- MIDLAS VLS
-- ADVENT CMS
-- ALPER LPI Surface Radar
-- AKREP Fire Control Radar
-- FERSAH SONAR
-- ARES-2N Electronic Warfare System
-- PIRI Panoramic Infrared Imaging
-- KATS Infrared Search and Track system
-- MKE 76mm naval gun
-- HISAR-D SAM
-- ATMACA anti-ship Missile
-- GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
-- ORKA Torpedo
-- HIZIR Torpedo counter measure System


Ignorant troll team
It is a little known fact that Turkiye ranks 4th among the world’s luxury yacht producers with 10% of the large yacht production

Turkiye has one of the strongest Naval industry to produce Ships for even Russia,UK,France,etc

Chemical Tanker fot The UK

200 m RO-RO Ship for Russia

get out now ignorant liar

 

[Abid123]

It would be extremely impressive if the Turkish defence industry could catch up with that of countries like Germany, UK and France.

It seems to be heading in the right direction.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey’s defense industry has boomed in the last decade with local designs - yes - and before that - it was making foreign designs under TOT, or components for export to the western countries under TOT arrangements it made for purchasing a number of systems in the last few decades .

not TOT ignorant liar

but under license production and under license production is not TOT

F16 Fighter Jet
Sikorksy S70 Helicopter
AS-532 Helicopter
CN-235 Aircraft
MEKO-200 Frigate
Type 209/214 Submarines


Nobody gave technology transfer for the TFX , HURJET , T-625 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI , KIZILELMA , TISU

Only Italy gave TOT and IP rights to Turkiye for T-129 Attack Helicopter .. nothing else


Nobody gave technology transfer for Naval projects
ADA class Corvette
ISTIF class Frigate
TUZLA class Patrol Boat
HISAR class OPV
BAYRAKTAR class LST
TCG UFUK Electronic Warfare Ship
TCG DERYA Replenishment Combat Support Ship 195 m
MOSHİP
Unmanned Vessels
also TF-2000 class Destroyer and MILDEN class AIP Submarine under development


Nobody gave technology transfer for SOM and ATMACA Cruise Missiles
KALE-AERO itself developed KTJ-3200 Turbojet Engine in 12 years ... without any TOT


Nobody gave technology transfer for GOKDOGAN and BOZDOGAN Air to Air Missiles

Nobody gave technology transfer for HISAR-A , HISAR-O , SIPER Air Defense Systems

Nobody gave technology transfer for ORKA and AKYA Torpedos

Nobody gave technology transfer for Radars in bands of VHF, UHF, S, L, C, X, Ku, Ka , W band

Nobody gave technology transfer for GaN based AESA Radars .. land-airborne-naval ( MURAD , ERALP , CENK-S , CAFRAD )

Nobody gave technology transfer for Electronic Warfare Systems REDET-II , KORAL , SANCAK , VURAL , ILGAR , ARES-2N , HEWS , MILKAR-3A , HAVASOJ , NAZAR

Nobody gave technology transfer for Targeting and Jamming Pods ASELPOD , MEHPOD

Nobody gave technology transfer for Quantum well infrared photodetectors ( HgCdTe , QWIP, InSb , InGaAs )


Nobody gave technology transfer for IIR and RF seekers , E/O Systems , Avionics and Navigation Systems and HELMET for Attack Helicopters and Fighter Jets

Nobody gave technology transfer for Communication Satellites and surveillance & reconnaissance Satellites TURKSAT-6A , GOKTURK-2 , GOKTURK-3 , RASAT , IMECE


also
-- TRNV global positioning and timing system
-- RAMJET , SCRAMJET for supersonic-hypersonic missiles
-- RAMJET powered GOKHAN long range air to air Missile
-- Supersonic decoy Drone
-- CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ , GEZGIN Cruise Missiles
-- TAYFUN , CENK Ballistic Missiles
-- AKBABA anti-radiation Missile
-- long range guided Bombs to hit even moving targets
-- Anti-radiation and Kamikaze Drones
And hundreds of other military projects


Liar troll team
You are saying like USA-Europe gave all those technologies to Turkiye

You ignore the decades of work and effort of Turkish engineers in Aselsan , Roketsan , Havelsan , Meteksan , TAI , TEI , STM , TUBITAK-SAGE

 

[MMM-E]

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