Turkish Defence Industry Exports & Updates

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@Sinan, so far i know we already have production of aliminum , 1-3-4-5-6000 class aliminums are produced , we just need 7000 and 8000.

Yeap.

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kulaninan malzeme duralumin, duralumin celiken 5 kez kere daha dayanikli ve hafiftir. Magnesyu,filan karisimi birsiii.

Atma Recep din kardeşiyiz.

 

[xenon54 out]

we will establish it in Karasu/Adapazarı.

Now it becomes clear why they were building a train line from Adapazari to Karasu, those pastards will build the train line straight throught the football field of our village where cows used to eat grass.

Oh and one of our Hazelnut fields is gone too.

 

[Oublious]

Yeap.

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Atma Recep din kardeşiyiz.

ben fokkerin fabrikasinda calistim , parca yapiyorduk atmasyon yok bende.

 

[xenon54 out]

ben fokkerin fabrikasinda calistim , parca yapiyorduk atmasyon yok bende.

You probably meant in weight/strenght ratio because no matter what you do the poorest quality steel will still be stronger than Alu.

 

[Oublious]

You probably meant in weight/strenght ratio because no matter what you do the poorest quality steel will still be stronger than Alu.

Not only that, it doesn't corrode. this is a alloy not only alimunium. Really it is stronger than normal steel.

 

[xenon54 out]

Not only that, it doesn't corrode. this is a alloy not only alimunium. Really it is stronger than normal steel.

Can you tell what kind of alloy because i can hardy imagine a Alu alloy thats stronger than steel on 1on1 comparison, also that it doesnt corrode is hard to believe because Alu is a Base metal which makes it pretty vulnerable agains corrosion, are you sure it isnt anodized or coated in any way?

 

[Oublious]

Can you tell what kind of alloy because i can hardy imagine a Alu alloy thats stronger than steel on 1on1 comparison, also that it doesnt corrode is hard to believe because Alu is a Base metal which makes it pretty vulnerable agains corrosion, are you sure it isnt anodized or coated in any way?

What the alloy exact is i don't now, they use copper, magnesium and another alloy. They use copper against corrosion and alumunium don't rust.

 

[ANMDT]

Not only that, it doesn't corrode. this is a alloy not only alimunium. Really it is stronger than normal steel.

aliminyum başımız tacıdır amma abartmayalım super malzeme olsa heryerde kullanılırdı.

7000 class has 700 mpa tensile stress, ST120 has 1200 mpa tensile stress . Beside , aliminium has no practically infinite fatigue cycles,while steel has ,also aliminium has one of third elasticity modulus of the steel, which least to higher strain.
So the answer of which one is better, hidden in the field you will use it ,in some applications steel is better, in some aliminium is better . Most of people in this forum knows the fact that pure aliminium has no strength so when me,or @xenon54 said aliminium, we actually mean the alloy.

For further ; there are more steel types goes higher than 1200 , also its about post yield behaviour of material

What the alloy exact is i don't now, they use copper, magnesium and another alloy. They use copper against corrosion and alumunium don't rust.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_aluminum , you mean this ,2024 alloy of 2000 series ( duralumin)
This alloy is being replaced with 7000 , also even wikipedia tells its suspected for corrosion.

 

[xenon54 out]

What the alloy exact is i don't now, they use copper, magnesium and another alloy. They use copper against corrosion and alumunium don't rust.

Copper and Magnesium are being used in almost every Aluminum alloy, only the ratio differs, infact theres almost no 100% Alu material because just as you said copper and Magnesium makes it more resistant against corrosion.
But this still doesnt mean Alu alloys dont corrode, they do but slowly and the corrosion film isnt visible, but after some time it gets visible white corrosion on the surface like rust if you dont use a coating or Anodize it, espacially on salty or agressive atmosphere.



This is how Aluminum corrosion looks like.

 

[Oublious]

Corrosion is not a big deal i think, in the end it doesn't rust. I really want to now what do they when a plane is corrosed. Somebody now it?

 

[xenon54 out]

Corrosion is not a big deal i think, in the end it doesn't rust. I really want to now what do they when a plane is corrosed. Somebody now it?

Pretty much scrap it because a Aluminum hull of a plane shouldnt corrode under any circumstances, it already happened with fatal results, planes loosing cabin pressure in 10000 m highth is pretty much like an explosion.

The green layer on plane hulls you see before they get painted is coating that protects aluminum from corrosion, a failure of this coating is very dangerous.


In switzerland you probably woulnd even pass the regular checking with your car if there is rust on significant parts, corrosion is no fun.

 

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Poland and Turkey: New Chapter of Bilateral Cooperation’s

Mr. Wojciech Dąbrowski, CEO of Polish Armaments Group (PGZ) assessed structure of PGZ and a potential fields of cooperation with Turkish Defence Industry for Defence Turkey Readers

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Defence Turkey: What is the reason of your visit to Turkey?

We are looking forward for cooperation with the Turkish military industry. Since Turkey has a number of strong and dynamic defence companies and has been successfully building modern Armed Forces, this is an ideal place to look for new business opportunities and learn from your experience. Turkey historically has been one of our most valuable allies and I think that this long-lasting relationship should expand further into the military and defence area. Regardless of geographic distance, the relationship between our two countries is rich in positive examples so I feel that we should continue to add new chapters to this history.

Defence Turkey: PGZ as a fully operational company has been launched in September during the 22nd International Defence Industry Exhibition (MSPO) in Kielce. Could you tell us about the whereabouts of the company?

PGZ consists of over 30 Polish leading military and civil companies and is a leading manufacturer of equipment for the modern Armed Forces. Our desirable structure is nearly completed as we have successfully included selected companies from the Polish Defence Holding (PHO) and will formally register them under the PGZ by the end of 2014. All of this happened within less than a year from our formal establishment. Considering the time span during which companies like Finmeccanica or BAE Systems have been formed, we have achieved a remarkable success. However, the most challenging time for us is still ahead.

Defence Turkey: Is PGZ replacing PHO?

PGZ is not a successor of PHO – it is a completely new entity. The scale of PHO and the level of cooperation between its sub-companies and their joint export potential was simply not enough for the current market conditions, not to mention customer expectations and their needs. PGZ is a complex, yet as I mentioned before complete, structure that will offer and cover a lifespan of any given military product – from R&D to implementation and production, servicing, maintenance and upgrading to recycling. All this will be offered with a world-class quality and competitive price. Even now we have a number of products that can compete head to head with the world’s most advanced military products. Just to mention the armoured division within the PGZ which is very strong and offers e.g. Wheeled Armoured Vehicle Rosomak (stands for Wolverine in Polish) one of the most modern multirole military vehicles, which performed excellently on the battlefields of Afghanistan.

Defence Turkey: Where do you see potential for cooperation with the Turkish defence industry?

In addition to the armoured vehicles we also produce artillery systems. In this part of our business we notice a huge potential for cooperation with the Turkish defence companies. This cooperation can and definitely should lead to bilateral benefits. PGZ is eager to acquire new technologies that can be implemented into our Group and this is one of the reasons of my visit to your country. Moreover, our shipyard division is capable of building and upgrading modern military ships and as both Poland and Turkey have coastlines to defend. Thus, I perceive Navy modernization as yet another potential field of cooperation, especially in the case of production of corvettes and frigate modernization. Acquisition and modernisation of new submarines, mine hunting, patrol and littoral defence vessels are also opportunities we look forward to examine. This is a unique chance to strengthen our ties and increase our economic and NATO partnership.

Defence Turkey: The armaments modernization programs in Turkey and Poland have similarities. What other fields of cooperation are possible?

Indeed both countries are committed to heavily invest in their defence sectors. Poland has guaranteed nearly 40 bln USD until 2022 for this sake. There are numerous areas we can explore and finally cooperate in – for instance F-16 maintenance and logistics, military trucks and simulation systems. I strongly believe that our talks will materialize and PGZ will be a strong business partner for the Turkish defence industry, both in military as well as the dual-use areas. Ambitious modernization programs of Poland and Turkey require the industry to develop. Therefore, every military project or need shared by the two countries is naturally a potential field of cooperation. I am certain that my visit shall largely contribute to the enhancement of this scope of our relations. I feel it is necessary to broaden our existing relations and establish future commitments in finding real projects to cooperate, not only in the bilateral formula but also within multilateral (especially NATO) projects, using all the opportunities and accessible tools.

 

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