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Turkey Planning to Buy 100 F-35's

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Turkey is planning to purchase 100 multi-purpose F-35 jet fighters worth $16 billion, Turkish Defense Minister ?smet Y?lmaz has said, according to daily Milliyet. The first two of the military aircraft will be delivered by 2015, he said. The decision to order two F-35s was made last month.

The multi-purpose F-35 fighter jets are being produced by the U.S.-based arms producer Lockheed Martin. Turkey became a member of the international F-35 consortium in 1999. Other partners of the consortium include Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Australia, Norway and Denmark.

The statement indicates that Turkey is insisting on proceeding with its plan to purchase 100 F-35s even as many other partner countries, including the United States, have backtracked on their purchase plans due to delays and incremental costs.

The Pentagon postponed the purchase of 139 F-35 fighter jets for five years, whileBritain said the decision regarding the number of F-35s that the country would buy would be delayed until 2015. Italy last week said its F-35 orders would be scaled down by 30 percent.

The U.S. government plans to manufacture 2,443 F-35 fighter jets, according to a statement made to Turkey in 2012, Y?lmaz said. “Purchase orders in the upcoming years regarding the [F-35 military aircraft] will be subsequently assessed depending upon the negotiations.”

Turkey has spent $315 million so far on three phases of the development of the F-35 fighter jets that the country is producing as part of the partnership, Y?lmaz said.

Noting the incremental costs of the three phases, he said Turkey’s contract regarding its partnership in the consortium did not cover those costs. Aircraft supply costs would become clear after the aircraft order deal is signed, he said.

Negotiations on codes
Progress has also been made on negotiations with the United States over grantingTurkey the permission to load war software, weapons and ammunition onto the aircraft independently, he said in a reply to a written question by ?smet Büyükataman, an opposition Nationalist Movement Party deputy.

Responding to claims that the U.S. would not sell the software and block the independent integration of weapons and ammunition, the minister said, “Negotiations regarding the independent loading of war software, weapons and ammunition to secure the independent deployment and maintenance of the F-35 in Turkey are continuing.”

Defense Industry Undersecretary Murad Bayar said last month Turkey and the U.S. were negotiating over flight codes for the two F-35 military planes.

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what a waste -- they should spend the money on education, R&D, social welfare....
 
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Good investment , unlike the MRCA blunder

Turkey has abundance of cash its not like they are short on change:agree:
 
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mrca blunder?????
your hatred is so blinding:disagree:

even if you see , you can't think about it with mind full of hatred

BTW good decision for Turkey, it will make them one of the strongest air force in region.. With growing instability they need it
 
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Good investment , unlike the MRCA blunder

Turkey has abundance of cash its not like they are short on change:agree:
Yes, only if U.S grant Turkey permission to load War Software,weapons and ammunition on to the aircraft independently and also agrees to give atleast 50% of ToT to Turkey..other wise what a waste of 16 billion$ when you can't even use those aircraft without the permission of Uncle Sam.....I mean when they can't use those aircrafts against Greece or Israel then what will they do with those shiny and expensive Toys....
 
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Industrial Share of Turkish institutes for F-35 JSF

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KALEKALIP will produce all parts of the F-135 engines
FARNBOROUGH, England, July 20 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- FARNBOROUGH AIR SHOW -- Pratt & Whitney and Kale Havacilik San, A.S., (Kale Group) of Istanbul, Turkey, announced the formation of a joint venture partnership to produce aircraft engine components today at the Farnborough Airshow. Under the terms of the joint venture, Kale will own 51 percent and Pratt & Whitney will own 49 percent of the joint venture company located in Turkey. Pratt & Whitney is a United Technologies Corp. (NYSE:UTX - News) company.

"Turkey is an important customer for Pratt & Whitney, and we value the industrial capabilities and expertise of the Turkish aerospace industry and companies like Kale," said Warren Boley, president of Pratt & Whitney Military Engines "This partnership establishes a world-class manufacturing capability to produce military aircraft engine components for our customers around the world at the best value."

"We have a tremendous relationship with Kale Aero and we are very proud to now be in formal partnership with them," said Dave Galuska, senior vice president of Pratt & Whitney Module Centers and Operations.

The joint venture will specialize in manufacturing hardware for the F135 engine powering the F-35 Lightning II aircraft. In the future, the partnership will expand to support highly complex metal fabrications and spare parts for Pratt & Whitney military fighter engine models F100 and F119, and military transport engine model F117.

"We are happy and proud to embark on this road together with the world's leading aero engine manufacturer, Pratt & Whitney," said Osman Okyay, president, Technical & Chemical Division, Kale Group Companies. "Kale Aero is placing top priority on the F-35 program. We were the first qualified supplier from Turkey selected for this project, the largest defense industry project ever, and we pride ourselves for being the only Turkish company with parts on the first flying F-35 Lightning II aircraft. Kale Aero has also undertaken the task of manufacturing parts for the F135 engine, and our excitement is further enhanced by the fact that through this joint venture partnership, we will greatly expand our contribution to this great engine."

Kale Aero is part of a large and a diversified industrial conglomerate of Turkey, Kale Group. The group embracing over fifty years of experience in building materials is also active in robotics, energy, in addition to defense and aerospace. Kale has been a reliable supplier in various national and multi-national defense and aerospace projects since 1989.

Pratt & Whitney is a world leader in the design, manufacture and service of aircraft engines, space propulsion systems and industrial gas turbines. United Technologies, based in Hartford, Conn., is a diversified company providing high technology products and services to the global aerospace and building industries.

This press release contains forward-looking statements concerning future business opportunities and operational engine performance. Actual results may differ materially from those projected as a result of certain risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to changes in funding related to the F-35 aircraft and F135 engines, changes in government procurement priorities and practices or in the number of aircraft to be built; challenges in the design, development, production and support of advanced technologies; compliance with government procurement requirements, as well as other risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to those detailed from time to time in United Technologies Corp.'s Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

Turkey's ALP AVIATION Workshare in F-35 JSF:

-P&W F135-Ti Integrally Bladed Titanium Rotor Process
-Improvement & Special Cutting Tool Development Project,
-Goodrich LG F-35 Landing Gear Components

Alp Aviation PW F-135 Engine TI IBR Project for F-35 JSF

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So i have heard that Turkey was keen to produce their own version of the F-35 with its own sensors and avionics, more over they also wanted to produce as much parts for the aircraft as possible to reduce the cost per plane and to help the local industries. By the way how many parts of an airplane can turkey produce? I am sure that if its allowed to do so then the number would going to double.
 
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So i have heard that Turkey was keen to produce their own version of the F-35 with its own sensors and avionics, more over they also wanted to produce as much parts for the aircraft as possible to reduce the cost per plane and to help the local industries. By the way how many parts of an airplane can turkey produce? I am sure that if its allowed to do so then the number would going to double.

Well not exactly, There will be some turkish avionics and systems installed thats for sure. But a own version is highly unlikely the USA wont even give sourche codes let alone let us get our own version of the F35.
 
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Well not exactly, There will be some turkish avionics and systems installed thats for sure. But a own version is highly unlikely the USA wont even give sourche codes let alone let us get our own version of the F35.

As far I know only Turkish Made Weapon System like HGK/KGK, SOM, SRAAM etc. will be integrated !
 
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what a waste -- they should spend the money on education, R&D, social welfare....

I think the turkish people are one of the pioneers and frontrunners when it comes to those three things.

Given the fact that they are in a volatile area, its a good buy.
 
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Müşterek Saldırı Uçağı F-35 Şimşek II'ler Artık Radara Yakalanıyor... Çinliler En Sıkı Korunan Uçağın Sırlarını Ele Geçirmiş!



2050lerin Müşterek Saldırı Uçağı F-35 Şimşek II Proje ortağı İngiliz şirketi BAE'nin ağlarına sızan Çinli hacker'ların, 313 milyar dolarlık projeye ait önemli bilgileri ele geçirdiği öne sürüldü. Türkiye’nin de proje ortakları ortakları arasında olduğu Müşterek Saldırı Uçağı F-35 Şimşek II’e ait önemli gizli bilgilerin İngiliz Savunma ve Havacılık şirketi BAE’nin enternet bilgisayar ağına sızan Çinli hacker’lar tarafından çalındığı iddia edildi.
 
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what a waste -- they should spend the money on education, R&D, social welfare....

the same can be said to pakistan,india,bangladesh,sri lanka,pretty much everyone

everything has it's own budget.it's their money,so it's up to them do spend it

.....I mean when they can't use those aircrafts against Greece or Israel then what will they do with those shiny and expensive Toys....

the turks have other option:the KFX Programme(with South Korea,Indonesia and possibly Brazil,Sweden and Malaysia)

besides,both turkey and greece are part of NATO country.i understand a bit about the sentiment against israel,but greece?
 
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