Turkey vows to mobilize Islamic world against Euro-fascism

[SouI]

Watch this then shut up.

He said "No churches or synagogue allowed."

Congrats mate, you just delegitimised your own claims by your own source.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

He said "No churches or synagogue allowed."

Congrats mate, you just delegitimised your own claims by your own source.

No it doesn't, how is christianity illegal if churches are banned? Christianity is not banned in Saudi Arabia just churches or preaching, now go shoo troll.


You also clearly didn't read my post.

Christianity is not illegal in ANY of these countries. Not even Saudi Arabia bans christianity. If you are a christian in Saudi Arabia, you can freely practice your religion. You just can't build a church or attempt to convert people.

Anyway great job for embarrassing yourself soul.

 

[ABCharlie]

LOL

 

[SouI]

No it doesn't, how is christianity illegal if churches are banned? Christianity is not banned in Saudi Arabia just churches or preaching, now go shoo troll.


You also clearly didn't read my post.

Oh you edited your post! You said churches are not banned in any of those countries and now YOU are calling me the troll, LMAO the hypocrisy!

 

[Taygibay]

Christianity is not banned in Saudi Arabia just churches or preaching, now go shoo troll.

And in France, the army protects Masjids!

That's the difference that allowed me to thank a blunt post!
In many countries, religion is state-sponsored and those that
believe otherwise are asked to stay low and silent for fear of ...

Where I'm from, you can choose not to believe and if you do,
you can believe in your God of choice too, pretty much whichever.
The only thing asked in return for that smorgasbord of belief
and liberty is that you let any other believe in their own God,
whether it be Yahweh or any flavour of Christianity. Buddhists
& satanist cultists are protected as are ET's friends & Celtic spirits
gang, those that go by astrology and even fans of Florent Pagny!

That difference is real, it exists and getting called a nazi by zealots
who'd be in our FN at best on their best behaviour for allowing such
unheard of freedom is ludicrous.

And I'll go vote soon to make sure that we don't lower our standards.

So others better raise theirs or the difference will shine on, Tay.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Oh you edited your post! You said churches are not banned in any of those countries and now YOU are calling me the troll, LMAO the hypocrisy!

I didn't edit anything, I said none of those countries banned Christianity. HUGE DIFFERENCE

Denial looks bad so stop you troll. Acknowledge you were wrong and suck it up.

believe otherwise are asked to stay low and silent for fear of ...

My friend with the exception of Saudi Arabia... Which one?

Where I'm from, you can choose not to believe and if you do,
you can believe in your God of choice too, pretty much whichever.

It's the exact same thing where I am from? So what? It is being called intolerant too.

Also if that is the case what is with Frances Hijab ban? And discrimination?

French firms told they can ban staff from wearing Muslim headscarves at work
https://www.thelocal.fr/20170314/french-firms-told-they-can-ban-the-muslim-headscarf-at-work

The controversy over the Islamic scarf (hijab) was sparked on 18 September 1989, when three female students were suspended for refusing to remove their scarves in class at Gabriel Havez Middle School in Creil. In November 1989, the Conseil d'État ruled that the scarf's quasi religious expression was compatible with the laïcité of public schools. That December, minister of educationLionel Jospin issued a statement declaring that educators had the responsibility of accepting or refusing the wearing of the scarf in classes on a case-by-case basis.[3]

In January 1990, three girls were suspended from Louis Pasteur Middle School in Noyon, a city in Picardy. The parents of one of the girls previously suspended from Gabriel Havez filed a defamation suit against its principal. Following these events, teachers at a middle school in Nantua held a general strike in protest against the scarf in school. A second government statement reiterated the need to respect the principle of secularity in public schools.

In September 1994, a new memorandum, the "François Bayrou memo" was issued, delineating the difference between "discreet" religious symbols able to be brought into classrooms, and "ostentatious" religious symbols (including the hijab), which were to be forbidden in public establishments. In October of that year, students at Saint-Exupéry High School in Mantes-la-Jolie organized a demonstration of protest in favor of the right to wear the veil in classrooms. In November, 24 veiled students were suspended from the same high school as well as from Faidherbe High in Lille.[3]


Please explain this to me when you want to say you tolerate all beliefs. Tell me why do you protect Satanists and others but ban Niqab and ban headscarves in public schools? I thought you guys tolerated all faiths and beliefs.

n December 2003, President Jacques Chirac decided that a law should explicitly forbid any visible sign of religious affiliation in public schools, in the spirit of secularism. The law, sometimes referred to as "the veil law", was voted in by the French parliament in March 2004. It forbids the wearing of any "ostentatious" religious articles, including the Islamic veil, the Jewish kippa, and large Christian crosses.[24] The law permits discreet signs of faith, such as small crosses, Stars of David, and hands of Fatima.

getting called a nazi

I am not calling you a Nazi, I am calling out European apparent hypocrisy and @flamer84 and his propaganda buddy.

I have no problem with you Tay, you are a great dude and I hold no hard feelings for french people or the french state but I would suggest you check your own country before lecturing others on tolerance.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

You know something very wrong is going on on PDF and Turkish section when most of the self proclaimed Kemalists side with Holland against Turkey in these issues.

To all non-Turks here who have sparse idea about Turkey. This forum is not a representation of Turkey or Turkish policies. Toxic "kemalists" have been hijacking the Turkish section for some time even though these guys are a tiny minority in Turkey. PDF administrations keeps insisting in letting this fringe group represent Turkey. But don't let them fool you, visit Turkey, read about Turkey and see it for yourself.

Mainstream Turks are getting banned systematically by them andn their voice is kept away. If you really want to converse like normal human beings, i recommend reading the comments of HAKIKAT kedikesenfare or selim1 and the likes. Dont lend ears to the others too much

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

You know something very wrong is going on on PDF and Turkish section when most of the self proclaimed Kemalists side with Holland against Turkey in these issues.

To all non-Turks here who have sparse idea about Turkey. This forum is not a representation of Turkey or Turkish policies. Toxic "kemalists" have been hijacking the Turkish section for some time even though these guys are a tiny minority in Turkey. PDF administrations keeps insisting in letting this fringe group represent Turkey. But don't let them fool you, visit Turkey, read about Turkey and see it for yourself.

Mainstream Turks are getting banned systematically by them andn their voice is kept away. If you really want to converse like normal human beings, i recommend reading the comments of HAKIKAT kedikesenfare or selim1 and the likes. Don't lend ears to the others too much

Well I mean to be fair, why would someone campaign in another country?


While the opinion of Kemalists don't represent the Turkish nation or it's policies what it does represent is the opinion of that Turk.


I don't know what goes on in the Turkish section but I am sure that the majority of Kemalists/Secularists are not "toxic".


Turkey is a diverse place with diverse opinions, you cannot cut out the opinion of others simply because they do not line with your own or the majority.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

erdogan is good at playing peoples emotions, he did this in 2010 with the flotilla thing too.

 

[Zibago]

Erdogan is a mad man. He calls everyone Nazi and he's frequently referring to Hitler as well. That is quite revealing to me.

Day after day he turns Turkey into an Authoritarian Islamic regime.
Day after day he turns Turkey into something not compatible with European values.

He will benefit from this locally playing with the patriotic feelings of his fellow citizens.

I expect those next steps :
- further destruction of free speech in Turkey
- further actions to increase his control over the military
- further clash with European countries

At some point Turkey will leave NATO also because it will help him to keep control of the Turkish army which should be goal #1 of every "strong leader".

I think diplomacy should reign supreme hard stances should stop it hurts both Turkey and its European allies

 

[azzo]

I think Erdogan should scrap this mutated system and re-establish the Caliphate.

 

[salarsikander]

erdogan is good at playing peoples emotions, he did this in 2010 with the flotilla thing too.

At least someone has the balls yo move forward. The rest are good for nothing

 

[TheCamelGuy]

At least someone has the balls yo move forward. The rest are good for nothing

He has a major stake in destroying Syria, pulled a blind eye to the growth of IS for years with his open border policy. Others are bleeding to curb and solve these problems, you aren't.

 

[salarsikander]

He has a major stake in destroying Syria, pulled a blind eye to the growth of IS for years with his open border policy. Others are bleeding to curb and solve these problems, you aren't.

Oy don't tell me I or my folks havnet bled. We have had our fair share. Oh please. You infighting is the result of turmoil in entire middle east. The outsiders just took advantage of that.

 

[Timur]

Just like you,living in Christian lands while spewing hate against them

Hate? I am telling the ugly truth Wich is far worser than I have ever portraited