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Turkey to lead fight against IS after US pullout: Erdogan

When you guys became dumb dumb with Obama and decided to fukk Syria up and tried a regime change, you should have thought of the consequences. There was no kurdish problem back then in Syria. Now there is.

Keep in mind, None of the three (Russia/ China/ Iran) are helping these terrorist Kurds. You know who is. Not too long ago you boys were chummy with the US in Syria.......How did that turn out?
Well, Erdo going against Assad was a dumb thing to do.....which destabilized Syria and back fired. However, i don't agree with you that Turkey did it with US hands to hands.
 
Sinan, I don't think your leader has understood what not to do........learn from Iran on what to do! Lets hope once the US leaves the NE of Syria, these kurds are put in their place, as bonafide citizens of Syria and Iraq. That's exactly what they are. Iran will not allow another Israel in the region.

Well, Erdo going against Assad was a dumb thing to do.....which destabilized Syria and back fired. However, i don't agree with you that Turkey did it with US hands to hands.
 
Only turkey has the capability to fight and eliminate IS from the region ..with help of it's allies Turkey can provide a better solution for Syrian crisis
Having the capability and the willingness to use that capability are 2 different things.

Yes, Turkey has the capabilities to go after IS. But will Turkey actually go after IS? I don't think so. I might be wrong. I think now it is primarily Turkish-Kurdish settlement related. ISIS has parents, and i will know what will happen to ISIS when i know where ISIS parents are and what they think.I do not believe ISIS has an independent global islamic agenda/cause.Did US stop being ISIS-SYria's dad and TUrkey took up parenting responsibilities?

Well, Erdo going against Assad was a dumb thing to do.....which destabilized Syria and back fired.
I agree!
However, i don't agree with you that Turkey did it with US hands to hands.
I think US did it hand in hand with Turkey or/and GCC, BUT, US and TUrkey had seriously diverging and clashing "interests", but it wasnt intentional, but it was reality. Who bought sold ISIS all those new Toyotas?? Thats not a conspiracy theory. It was a large order, and the producer and sellers knew who was taking delivery of it. The moment Russia joined on Assad's side, Turkey's power in Syria started to decline. Maybe TUrkey is sending alot of military reinforcements into Syria SO Turkey doesnt look like a loser in the Syrian conflict?
 
They’re going take the North under the pretext of “fighting ISIS” to dismantle the Kurdish fronts then establish an administrative zone for their ally (FSA etc) to rule it. It will not only serve them but they’ll also be used as a buffer to protect Turkey from Assad, his allies and the seperatist.

Then, the country will be divided between the North (Suuni) protected by their Northern neighbors (Turkey). The South (Shia) will be protected by their Southern neighbors (Iraq and Iran).
 
Russia/ China/ Iran won't allow this bullshit!......under no circumstances.

We don't want another Afghanistan or Israel.......conducting terrorism under US/ EU and Israeli auspices.

P.S. Keep in mind 90% of Syria is under Syrian control. These Kurds in Syria are Syrian citizens. Iran ended all this bullshit in Iraq. Syria won't be any different. We are respecting Turkey for now in not genociding in Idlib......but the writing is on the wall. Syrian territorial integrity must be respected.......we won't allow another Israel.

They’re going take the North under the pretext of “fighting ISIS” to dismantle the Kurdish fronts then establish an administrative zone for their ally (FSA etc) to rule it. It will not only serve them but they’ll also be used as a buffer to protect Turkey from Assad, his allies and the seperatist.

Then, the country will be divided between the North (Suuni) protected by their Northern neighbors (Turkey). The South (Shia) will be protected by their Southern neighbors (Iraq and Iran).
 
They’re going take the North under the pretext of “fighting ISIS” to dismantle the Kurdish fronts then establish an administrative zone for their ally (FSA etc) to rule it. It will not only serve them but they’ll also be used as a buffer to protect Turkey from Assad, his allies and the seperatist.

Then, the country will be divided between the North (Suuni) protected by their Northern neighbors (Turkey). The South (Shia) will be protected by their Southern neighbors (Iraq and Iran).
I don't think that is the goal of Erdo....for years Erdo and co said it thousands times that Turkey respects the integrity of Syria. More over why would Turkey would want a seperate Sunni state in Northern Syria ? That would be hunch on Turkey's back that we would need to provide everything for that state to survive. We already spend much money on this crysis.

More over FM recently said; "Turkey would consider working with Assad if he won a democratic Syrian election"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-a-democratic-syrian-election-idUSKBN1OF0DP


At some point FSA and Assad will find a middle way which would be endorsed by Turkey, Iran, Russia and crysis will be over. There is no other option viable.
 
So turkey plans to fight with itself
:omghaha:

Man......lol.....there was no Kurdish drama in Syria until 2012.......Assad was in control, but you had to fukk it up.

Now deal with it. And no, Iran has no intention of destabilizing its neighbors (including Turkey). We are picking up the pieces and empowering the governments to take care of their own shit. Iran is against the break up of any country along ethnic or sectarian lines.We are in Syria and Iraq on the invitation of their governments. Unlike you!

Destabilizing your neighbors is the stupidest thing you can do......it always backfires!

Turkey is the biggest destabilizing factor in the Middle East
 
Turkey is the biggest destabilizing factor in the Middle East

Terrorist Iran created chaos in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon,Yemen
Terrorist S.Arabia with the US helping created Al Qaeda and Isis to terrorize middle East

Assad Family and Iran always supported Pkk terrorists against Turkey since 1990s
even OCALAN ( the founder of Pkk ) lived in Damascus/Syria until 1999


Turks ruled all middle East in peace and justice for over 400 years

but today stupid Arabs-Persians-Kurds-Jews are killing each others in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon,Palestine,Israel,Yemen,etc
 
Come on, you can't accuse Iran of supporting PKK or whatever the hell these 20 other kurdish terrorist grouplets. We are not stupid. Off and on we have our own kurdish terrorism. Just nonsense.

These Kurds are US and Israeli backed!.....Ever been to Erbil?.......shit......these kurds worship the US. I don't think you know much about these kurds do you? Iran and turkey don't have any issues anymore.

Syrian problem is one step away from being resolved.

Terrorist Iran created chaos in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon,Yemen
Terrorist S.Arabia with the US helping created Al Qaeda and Isis to terrorize middle East

Assad Family and Iran always supported Pkk terrorists against Turkey since 1990s
even OCALAN ( the founder of Pkk ) lived in Damascus/Syria until 1999


Turks ruled all middle East in peace and justice for over 400 years

but today stupid Arabs-Persians-Kurds-Jews are killing each others in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon,Palestine,Israel,Yemen,etc

Erdogan is changing his behavior. He understands now to let it go, it's not worth it. Russia/ Iran/ Turkey are sitting down and solving this problem.

:omghaha:



Turkey is the biggest destabilizing factor in the Middle East
 
Turkey will now have a free hand to wipe out the Kurdish terrorists the USA has been arming against it.
 
They’re going take the North under the pretext of “fighting ISIS” to dismantle the Kurdish fronts then establish an administrative zone for their ally (FSA etc) to rule it. It will not only serve them but they’ll also be used as a buffer to protect Turkey from Assad, his allies and the seperatist.

Then, the country will be divided between the North (Suuni) protected by their Northern neighbors (Turkey). The South (Shia) will be protected by their Southern neighbors (Iraq and Iran).

There's very few Shia in Syria so this scenario makes no sense.

There's going to be Sunni on both sides and likely more in the Southern half.
 
It's not about sunni/ shia in Syria. 90% of the SyAA is Sunni. Alawi are only 10% of the population in Syria. There are more Alawi in Turkey than in Syria.

This war was unnecessary and US instigated. Same drama the US pulled in Iraq. Same thing in Yemen and Lebanon. Trying to pit one against the other, for their imperial agenda.

There's very few Shia in Syria so this scenario makes no sense.

There's going to be Sunni on both sides and likely more in the Southern half.
 

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