Turkey to fast-track draft bill approving troop deployment in Qatar: Officials

[flamer84]

Love this thread....

@DejanSRB @Vergennes @bobo6661

 

[The SC]

True to some extent. However, the problem here is that Qatar also has a powerful media organization (Al Jazeera) and Qatar has been a strong Western ally since they gained their independence from Britain, while still hosting U.S, British military personnel. They have also invested(some call it "bought off") many western powers like U S,U.K,France by investing hundreds of billions in these countries and awarding dozens of military contracts running into billions to western powers etc etc. So it's difficult for Western powers to just abandon Qatar or go against them. Had it been a country like Iran with whom we don't have much stake, then it would have been more easily dealt with or isolated. However, Qatar's case is quite different.

So I believe a mediation by the U.S or another Western power(U.K could have done so as well, but due to our controversial elections we have more pressing issues to deal with back home, maybe even France will do) as a neutral party will be most welcome to diffuse tensions and possibly come to a compromise.

It is true that Qatar has a powerful media, and it could hurt everyone in the region, that is why I said that others are learning the media warfare tactics and strategies..

 

[Hell NO]

lol
The Israelis were only 60km away from Cairo and 35km away from Damascus. Sorry to say but it was their mercy to Arabs that they didn't take over the whole Egypt and Syria. Truth is truth no matter how hard it is to accept

Read more!!!

3 Israeli tanks defeated 20 egyptian tanks without any shot

Today there is no USSR which forced UN to save your backside
I strongly recommend not to trust the USA.

A single Egyptian soldier destroyed 27 Israel tanks and he had no tank so your point is???

 

[xenon54 out]

KSA is also a part of the G-20.

You are also not the only secular state by constitution in the ME. So is Syria and Lebanon. Israel too. Do you understand what I mean with those nonsense claims? You are even living in Switzerland. Or when your compatriots post fake Ottoman maps that have nothing to do with the reality?

Ok let me post facts:

Syria:
Article 3 of the 1973 Syrian constitution declares Islamic jurisprudence one of Syria's main sources of legislation.[140] The Personal Status Law 59 of 1953 (amended by Law 34 of 1975) is essentially a codified Islamic law.[141] The Code of Personal Status is applied to Muslims by Sharia courts.[142] In Sharia courts, a woman's testimony is worth only half of a man's.[143]

Lebanon:
Lebanon's legal system is based on a combination of Civil Law, Islamic law and Ottoman laws.[99] There are seventeen official religions in Lebanon, each with its own family law and religious courts. For the application of personal status laws, there are three separate sections: Sunni, Shia and non-Muslim. The Law of 16 July 1962 declares that Islamic law governs personal status laws of Muslims, with Sunni and Ja'afari Shia jurisdiction of Islamic law.[83] In a Muslim family court, the testimony of a woman is worth half of that of a man.

So you might wanna check what secularism means, certainly not the exsamples above.

And now to Israel, i said secular country by constitution meaning that its explicitely referred as a secular country in its constitution without a state religion which doesnt include Israel since it does have a state religion, though Israel is de-facto as secular as Turkey gotta give it to you.

 

[The SC]

Just look at Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, Hong Kong etc. If a nation really wants to prosper and strive, even 10.000 years of cahiliyet cannot stop them form achieving their goal.

(By using a Turkish word of Arab origin in my positing, I felt like a certain Turkish user lmao.)

Every country you have mentioned happen to be protected by the US, even most of Europe.. there is a clear sign that economic prosperity and advancements in science can only be achieved in a peaceful environment.. meaning that you have to either have a very powerful armed forces to protect your assets and allow peace in your land leading you to prosper, or be under a superpower umbrella.. Everywhere else where these conditions are not present.. conflicts spread widely.. it is a fact one can see through a quick look at the map where hot spots of war exist..

 

[Attila the Hun]

I would expect many of those to be non-Turkic just like Barbarossa that they claim was a Turk despite being the son of an Albanian and a Greek mother!

For the millionth time. HE WAS NOT ALBANIAN. BUT A TURK AND GREEK.
Albanians like to claim everyone as Albanian, another famous lie by the Albanians is that Ataturk was Albanian too lol

Most of their elites in the military were actually non-Turks but recent converts from the Balkans. In fact Turk was an insult during Ottoman times.

Enough with this already. The Turks weren't stupid enough to let non-Turks become elite of the military.

“ The ordinary Turks [Turkmen, or Yörüks] did not have a sense of belonging to a ruling ethnic group. In particular, they had a confused sense of self-image. Who were they: Turks, Muslims or Ottomans?

What a load of rubbish. You've never met a Yoruk in your life, how would you know? And don't take this "Turk" as proof. lol

The words of a Turkish historian.

Maybe only in name.

 

[Baybars Han]

Just to teach some of these people history.

1000 AD
Turkish empires
- Gazneliler(Ghaznavids)
-Seljuks
- Cumans
-Khazar Khanate
-Pechenegs

1100AD
- Im not going to list all but only the areas where we pissed on the weak arabs

- Seljuks come and sweep the arabs in Middle east
- Seljuks of Rum also in anatolia

1200 - Middle east Turk- Harzemsah(Kwarzemains) and Seljuks

This goes on and on- It will take hours for me to do all of it. But just wanted to show this arab troll with 538583 accounts some real history.

1300 ad - Seljuks of Rum and then Golden Horde with Berke and Batu Han

1400 - Timur and Ottomans

We all know the rest till 1915 and World war 1. Ottomans and Akkoyuns and Karakoyuns and then Safevids in Middle east

 

[HAIDER]

what is that ?

 

[Attila the Hun]

Miss me or something?

 

[mike2000 is back]

It is true that Qatar has a powerful media, and it could hurt everyone in the region, that is why I said that others are learning the media warfare tactics and strategies..

True, funny enough Qatar does have alot of influence for its size. Plus it's media organization is the only one in the Muslim World( and even in the developing world, along with Russia's RT) who can hold its own in terms of influence/global coverage to some extent against Western powers media organisation like U.S(CNN), Britain(BBC),France(France24) etc. Not bad for such a small country.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Ok let me post facts:

Syria:
Article 3 of the 1973 Syrian constitution declares Islamic jurisprudence one of Syria's main sources of legislation.[140] The Personal Status Law 59 of 1953 (amended by Law 34 of 1975) is essentially a codified Islamic law.[141] The Code of Personal Status is applied to Muslims by Sharia courts.[142] In Sharia courts, a woman's testimony is worth only half of a man's.[143]

Lebanon:
Lebanon's legal system is based on a combination of Civil Law, Islamic law and Ottoman laws.[99] There are seventeen official religions in Lebanon, each with its own family law and religious courts. For the application of personal status laws, there are three separate sections: Sunni, Shia and non-Muslim. The Law of 16 July 1962 declares that Islamic law governs personal status laws of Muslims, with Sunni and Ja'afari Shia jurisdiction of Islamic law.[83] In a Muslim family court, the testimony of a woman is worth half of that of a man.

So you might wanna check what secularism means, certainly not the exsamples above.

And now to Israel, i said secular country by constitution meaning that its explicitely referred as a secular country without a state religion which doesnt include Israel since it does have a state religion, though Israel is de-facto as secular as Turkey gotta give it to you.

In all Arab countries, even KSA, civil law (secular) and Sharia coexists. Do you know what Sharia law is? It covers 1000's of different things and only a tiny percentage of it has to do with punishments which is what 99% of all people think of when they hear the word sharia. In secular states such as Lebanon and Syria, yes they are secular states as Christian Arabs do not live under Sharia and use the secular law as do many Muslims btw, the secular laws are not any different to those in Turkey or elsewhere. BTW without knowing it 100% I am quite sure that many of the secular laws in Turkey derive from sharia or principles of it. After all Turkey was ruled by Sharia law for centuries. Removing all traces of it and indirect influences, I think is not possible. Also I imagine that many Muslim Turks follow Sharia law in their personal lives when it comes to divorce, economy etc.

For the millionth time. HE WAS NOT ALBANIAN. BUT A TURK AND GREEK.
Albanians like to claim everyone as Albanian, another famous lie by the Albanians is that Ataturk was Albanian too lol



Enough with this already. The Turks weren't stupid enough to let non-Turks become elite of the military.



What a load of rubbish. You've never met a Yoruk in your life, how would you know? And don't take this "Turk" as proof. lol



Maybe only in name.

He was half Albanian and half Greek. Every source states this. Even Turkish ones. Stop acting silly. Sorry. But an Ottoman subject like your ancestors. Does not make him an Turk. Ottoman is not a nationality. Most Ottoman citizens (by far) were Arabs. Just so you know.

 

[Hell NO]

1973 war was won by Israelis. Because
1)Egypt couldnt return all Sinai peninsula. Egypt returned just a 20% land

• The Egyptian army occupied the eastern coast of the Suez Canal with the exception of the Israeli crossing point near Deversoir.[21]
• The Israeli army occupied sixteen hundred square kilometers of territory on the southwestern coast of the Suez Canal, within 100 km from Cairo, and encircled an Egyptian enclave in the east bank[21]
• The Israeli army occupied five hundred square kilometers of the Syrian Bashan, on top of the Golan Heights, which brought it within 20 miles of Damascus.[22]

2)UN and USSR stopped Israeli forces .
3) If there hadnt been UN order , Egypt wouldnt have reinforced Israelis .

Israeli Casualties and losses

• 2,521[38]–2,800[39][40] dead
• 7,250[41]–8,800[39]wounded
• 293 captured
• 1,063 tanks destroyed, damaged or captured[42]
• 407 armored vehicles destroyed or captured
• 102–387 aircraft destroyed[43][44]
• 
  
  Arabian casualties and losses:
• Total casualties:
  • 8,000[39]–18,500[45] dead
  • 18,000[39]–35,000[48]wounded
  • 8,783 captured
  • 2,250[49]–2,300[50] tanks destroyed
  • 341[39]–514[51] aircraft destroyed
  • 19 naval vessels sun.

Do you insist that it was Egyptian victory?
In addition 400 Israeli land vehicles were hitten from Soviet Sagger ATGMs! They werent hitten by the magical Egyptian heroes! If USSR hadnt helped, Egypt would have fought with camels.
Althought at the end of the war , Israeli tankists found the way to cheet SAGGERS

I havent forgotten anything, you just missed the video.
I strongly recommend you watching

So you are telling me that Egypt got its land back because Egypt lost and Israel who wouldn't negotiate before the war decided to give it back because the won make sense since sinai is the area of Israel who needs that and the Israel's built cities and settlement to give to the Egyptians right actually make sense.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Just to teach some of these people history.

1000 AD
Turkish empires
- Gazneliler(Ghaznavids)
-Seljuks
- Cumans
-Khazar Khanate
-Pechenegs

1100AD
- Im not going to list all but only the areas where we pissed on the weak arabs

- Seljuks come and sweep the arabs in Middle east
- Seljuks of Rum also in anatolia

1200 - Middle east Turk- Harzemsah(Kwarzemains) and Seljuks

This goes on and on- It will take hours for me to do all of it. But just wanted to show this arab troll with 538583 accounts some real history.

1300 ad - Seljuks of Rum and then Golden Horde with Berke and Batu Han

1400 - Timur and Ottomans

We all know the rest till 1915 and World war 1. Ottomans and Akkoyuns and Karakoyuns and then Safevids in Middle east

Why not mention the Huns?

 

[mike2000 is back]

In Sharia courts, a woman's testimony is worth only half of a man's

. Is that really true for all Sharia laws in Muslim countries?

 

[Dai Toruko]

what is that ?

After the death of King Abdullah, giant cardboard models were placed of the new King Salman for
condolence.