Turkey: tired of high-pitched foreign policy

[TurAr]

They are not Turks, but Azeri's. They are not waiting for your help nor for your mingling. You guys should stick your questioning to the Turkish diaspora in Europe.

You are denying their identity and trying to explain us that they are perfectly well in Iran.

I wish you had said the same thing to your troll friends when they tried to show a terrorist organization like freedom fighters. Thus, you would have some credibility.

Turkish Diaspora in Europe? According to you, the ones who only able to sell Kebab but nothing else, right?

 

[Alienoz_TR]

I don't get it,you are against an invasion to Iran or you support it?
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No, i support a Turkic Iran. Thats what we need. Chaotic Iran or Iranic Iran is not.

Anyway, What I write here is about: In a reshaped Middleast, what path Turkey is gonna choose, or should choose. And I dont give Iran much chance to survive.

 

[Surenas]

You are denying their identity and trying to explain us that they are perfectly well in Iran.

Their identity:

Nationality: Iranian.
Culture: Iranian
Language: Turkic

You tell me what that means.

I wish you had said the same thing to your troll friends when they tried to show a terrorist organization like freedom fighters. Thus, you would have some credibility.

I condemn everyone who's morally supporting a terrorist organization. I don't think Iranians here really support the PKK. If they say they do, it's only to counter some pan-Turkish treats to Iran and it's integrity. Still not justifiable btw.

Turkish Diaspora in Europe? According to you, the ones who only able to sell Kebab but nothing else, right?

No, don't put words in my mouth. The Turkish diaspora in Europe face some difficulties, but they are renowned as good entrepreneurs.

 

[TurAr]

The important thing here is that what they call themselves. If they are saying "we are Turks", then its time for you to shut up.

Am i mistaking you with someone else? Aren't you the one who tried to show Turks in Europe as ignorant, troublemakers?

 

[Surenas]

The important thing here is that what they call themselves. If they are saying "we are Turks", then its time for you to shut up.

The important thing is their culture and nationality. All other things don't matter. Besides that, most Azeri's consider themselves Iranians. Just like all the other minority groups in Iran.

Am i mistaking you with someone else? Aren't you the one who tried to show Turks in Europe as ignorant, troublemakers?

Well, many of them are ignorant, but troublemakers? Not really if you compare them to other immigrants like the Moroccans.

 

[Targon]

Seriously stay away from that section, all you do is making it worse.

 

[TurAr]

The important thing is their culture and nationality. All other things don't matter. Besides that, most Azeri's consider themselves Iranians. Just like all the other minority groups in Iran.



Well, many of them are ignorant, but troublemakers? Not really if you compare them to other immigrants like the Moroccans.

They came here to clean toilets for the Dutch and look at all the big mouths now.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey...rkish-vs-iranian-science-9.html#ixzz21RXwQ96g

Blabla. You just can't stand the fact that everywhere in Europe you guys are hated. Not because of your imperial history, but because you guys are relatively high involved in criminal acts and are famous for 'stealing' societies money.

The Iranians flag is in my heart

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey...rkish-vs-iranian-science-7.html#ixzz21RYQZFxa

Well, there is something wrong with gypsies. Just like the Turks they don't integrate that well in European countries and are overwhelmingly presented in criminal statistics. On this matter Turks and gypsies have more in common than we do.

My last post in this topic btw.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey...kish-vs-iranian-science-12.html#ixzz21RYeeHdt

I can't think of a more patriotic people than the Iranians. You guys are only good for waving Turkish flags, but if sh*t really hits the fans you guys run away. Look how the Kurds beats you guys:

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey...kish-vs-iranian-science-10.html#ixzz21RYvPZnm

All of these messages are yours.

My point is, do not come here and play the good guy. Do not expect our respect while you're just a racist, terrorist supporter scum.

 

[Serpentine]

No, i support a Turkic Iran. Thats what we need. Chaotic Iran or Iranic Iran is not.

Anyway, What I write here is about: In a reshaped Middleast, what path Turkey is gonna choose, or should choose. And I dont give Iran much chance to survive.

And we support an Iranian Turkey.What's that supposed to mean?If by Turkic Iran,you mean having Iran as your ally,yes that's possible.But if you mean an Iran who only serves the purpose of Turks,no that's not possible,because Iran is not a Turkish country.Maybe you didn't know that?In near future,you will see the war in ME and you will see which countries will back stab Turkey and which of them are going to support them.You are counting on Sunni Arab regimes too much,It seems you haven't understood their habits and culture yet.They even back stab each other,let alone Turkey or Iran.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

And we support an Iranian Turkey.What's that supposed to mean?If by Turkic Iran,you mean having Iran as your ally,yes that's possible.But if you mean an Iran who only serves the purpose of Turks,no that's not possible,because Iran is not a Turkish country.Maybe you didn't know that?In near future,you will see the war in ME and you will see which countries will back stab Turkey and which of them are going to support them.You are counting on Sunni Arab regimes too much,It seems you haven't understood their habits and culture yet.They even back stab each other,let alone Turkey or Iran.

If Iran doesnt serve Turkish/Turkic purpose, then it is not worth for Turkey to risk its NATO alliance. When the time comes, Iran has to Face its foes alone. Turkey doesnt have anything to gain, by opposing an intervention.

Turks dont count on Sünni Arabs. When Israel and Kurds form an alliance, we should consider Sünni Arab offers.

If Iran gonna go, Turkey should decide what to do about remaining Kurds, Armenians, etc...

 

[Serpentine]

If Iran doesnt serve Turkish/Turkic purpose, then it is not worth for Turkey to risk its NATO alliance. When the time comes, Iran has to Face its foes alone. Turkey doesnt have anything to gain, by opposing an intervention.

Turks dont count on Sünni Arabs. When Israel and Kurds form an alliance, we should consider Sünni Arab offers.

If Iran gonna go, Turkey should decide what to do about remaining Kurds, Armenians, etc...

Tell me something,does Turkey serve Iran's purpose?Of course not.Every country is after its own interests.Iran and Turkey have some mutual goals,security of Kurdish areas and Caucasus,becoming the one of the major economies in Asia and also a military powerhouse,solve the Azeri/Armenian issue.Also Iran can be a reliable supplier of Turkey demands of energy since you don't have energy resources.Iran can transfer its gas and oil to Europe through Turkey and many other things.As you see,we can be real close friends and even allies.
I never said Turkey should intervene or support Iran if a war happens.Turkey should do what is good for its interests.

 

[revojam]

If only persian trolls would stay away from Turkey Defence section how peacefull this forum would be.All flame wars started by none other than persians lurking in turkish section and provaking people out of nowhere , isnt there a way keep certain people from entering our section?

 

[Serpentine]

If only persian trolls would stay away from Turkey Defence section how peacefull this forum would be.All flame wars started by none other than persians lurking in turkish section and provaking people out of nowhere , isnt there a way keep certain people from entering our section?

Cool off,who is trolling here?If you are talking about me,you better read my posts in the forum and this thread.No insults,no flame wars.
Anyone can post anywhere they want,until they talk in a civil way.Also Turkish member post in Iranian section,but we don't tell them to go away.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Tell me something,does Turkey serve Iran's purpose?Of course not.Every country is after its own interests.Iran and Turkey have some mutual goals,security of Kurdish areas and Caucasus,becoming the one of the major economies in Asia and also a military powerhouse,solve the Azeri/Armenian issue.Also Iran can be a reliable supplier of Turkey demands of energy since you don't have energy resources.Iran can transfer its gas and oil to Europe through Turkey and many other things.As you see,we can be real close friends and even allies.
I never said Turkey should intervene or support Iran if a war happens.Turkey should do what is good for its interests.

I am not policy maker or something. I studied politics some time in my past and read a lot. I am just telling things that nobody tells.

To stand strong, you need a union. After two world wars, europeans understood meaning of unity. Turkey needs it as well. against EU, Against Slavic Union etc... Turkey, Iran and Israel are the lone wolves and therefore ambitious ones of Middleast.

You just lost or losing an ally, Syria. Your leaders still have a chance to think about it. Unfortunately Crusaders have upper hand this time. And Muslims are sheeps to be butchered.

 

[Serpentine]

I am not policy maker or something. I studied politics some time in my past and read a lot. I am just telling things that nobody tells.

To stand strong, you need a union. After two world wars, europeans understood meaning of unity. Turkey needs it as well. against EU, Against Slavic Union etc... Turkey, Iran and Israel are the lone wolves and therefore ambitious ones of Middleast.

You just lost or losing an ally, Syria. Your leaders still have a chance to think about it. Unfortunately Crusaders have upper hand this time. And Muslims are sheeps to be butchered.

I agree with a union like we had one years ago.Though it wasn't a succesful one:
Central Treaty Organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But a question remain here:Turkey is a NATO member,how is that possible for Turkey to form a unity for example with Iran and Pakistan?I don't think other NATO countries gonna like it,since they see Iran as their enemy.

 

[A.Muqeet khan]

They don't give a damn and will never give. Be grateful we got you back in ME arena, otherwise Turkey would have been left alone with no real friends. Arabs are not weak, we are 22 countries, and we got many hits but still on our feet. But, there is only one Turkey.

there is one turkey with the intelligence and power and technology something arabs have to catch up to