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Turkey spend big money buying 122 mm Grad rockets from eastern Europe somewhere to bomb Latakia city

only in your dreams , they can invade Turkey but nobody can take Turkey including the US and Russia ( we have seen Americans and Russians in Vietnam and Afghanistan how they failed )

btw Churcill also dreamed to take Istanbul but Turks destroyed British+French Navies and killed over 252.000 of them and Turks won in 1915





nahhhhhhh , Turks fought in 3 front for centuries against all Europe , Russia and Iran

also between 1821 and 1915 Ottoman Empire had interior problems ( greeks-serbs-albanians-bulgars-rumenians-arabs-kurds-armenians revolted against the Ottoman Empire

and Russians were allies with Europe against the TURKS in 1683-1699 war , 1787-1792 war , 1827-1829 war , 1878-1879 war

even Russo-Turkish War (1877–78) ....... TURKS beat Russians in Bulgaria ... but over 200.000 Bulgars,,Serbs,,Rumanian saved Russians from the TURKS

281.000 TURKS .....vs......737.000 Russians,,,,81,500 Serbs,,,,60.000 Rumanians,,,,40.000 Bulgars,,,25.000 Montenegro

RESULT : OTTOMAN EMPIRE : Total: 120,000 dead
SLAVIC COWARDS : Total: 215,000 dead and wounded


TURKS vs all of You



Turkey can barely handle Kurds in Syria with the help of thousands of jihadists and have made dismal progress. In Vietnam the US operated under strict rules of engagement, same with the Soviets in Afghanistan. Both countries almost always achieved strategic victories but eventually pulled out because in Vietnam the Soviets and Chinese kept arming, supplying and training the Vietnamese and in Afghanistan, the Pakistanis, Chinese, Americans and many gulf states supplies the Afghans.


Again the Ottomans lost almost every war they had against the Russian empire and they allied themselves with Europeans. The end result was Russians took land from the Ottamans and achieved military victory. The rest of your rant is too moronic to quantify or even justify having a debat--if you think Turkey can take on the US or Russia or even both then you have some loose screws in your head.
 
Then dont claim that Russia wont shoot down planes when its airspace gets violated, espacially in a warzone.

And didn't a Turkey F-4 got shot down over Syria in 2012?

What is true is WHITE PEOPLE don't shoot each other. Americans never shot a bullet at a Russian. Russians never shot a bullet at an American. Turks. Syrians. Koreans. None of them are WHITE PEOPLE.
 
And didn't a Turkey F-4 got shot down over Syria in 2012?
Yes it did, do you see us bitching about it? It was this incident that made Turkey to change RoE, thats why the russian plane got shot down after several warnings and multiple violations, if i was in charge i would shoot down anything flying without a single warning, the RoE should be enough of a warning.
 
Yes it did, do you see us bitching about it? It was this incident that made Turkey to change RoE, thats why the russian plane got shot down after several warnings and multiple violations, if i was in charge i would shoot down anything flying without a single warning, the RoE should be enough of a warning.

That's not how you do a warning. You do a warning at visual range. You don't do a warning with an AIM-120. Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Look how we Chinese do warning. J-8 flew within meters of EP-3. THAT, my friend, is HOW you do a WARNING.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident

No wonder why the world laughs at nomads.
 
That's not how you do a warning. You do a warning at visual range. You don't do a warning with an AIM-120. Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Look how we Chinese do warning. J-8 flew within meters of EP-3. THAT, my friend, is HOW you do a WARNING.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
The warning has been done for 10 minutes over radio, the airspace has been violated multiple times during this, as said RoE changed i wouldnt warn at all.
 
Keep rambling how brave Turkey is when the US is destroying your economy while having US troop stationed in Turkey while they support Kurds that kill Turks.


only brave Turks are fighting against the US and Israel ,,, even Turks have no nuclear weapons
and dont worry , Turks killed the US-Israel-Germany-the UK,France,Russia,Iran and Syrian Regime backed terrorist groups such as Pkk-Ypg-Dhkpc-ISIS and FETO everywhere

on the other hand pathetic slaves Germany,France,Russia sucks American-Israeli butts ( we have seen cowardly Russians when the US killed over 200 Russians in Syria )


As a Turk you should keep quiet about genocides. Everyone know about Turkish genocides which are the worst in human history,


Turkish People never committed genocide against any nation or minorities

1. During WW1 the Armenians helped the Russians invade eastern Anatolia. The Russians promised them independence (which they never gave them, in fact, Armenia became independent in the 90's after decades of Soviet occupation)
2. The Armenians dreaming of "greater Armenia" tried to Ethnically cleanse the region of Muslims, brutally massacring hundreds of thousands Kurds and other Muslims in the region (Turks etc)
3. After the Russians retreated, the Armenians were left without protection and the Kurds took a heavy revenge. Since the country was in turmoil, and being invaded from every single side there were no "authorities" to keep anyone in check and the Kurds massacred many Armenians in revenge



Brief there were a genocide, but a genocide committed by armenian,,greek,,bulgarian,,russian and serbian terrorists against the Muslim populations

According to the American historian Justin McCarthy, between the years 1821–1922, from the beginning of the Greek War of Independence to the end of the Ottoman Empire, 5 million Muslims were driven from their lands and another 5.5 million died some of them killed in wars, others perishing as refugees from starvation or disease




As for Syria, Turkey runs around with jihadists as canon folders---such "courage". Ironically Turkey still somehow manages to loose dozens of tanks, and achieved almost nothing meaningful.


Outsiders with no ethics can't understand Turkish sensivity towards civilian life thus they think Turkish army is incapable. We will never leave hundreds of innocent deads behind us just like Assad, Russia ,Iran or Usa


AFRIN is a mountainous area with fortifications where PKK-YPG was building bunkers and tunnels since 2015

still Turkish Armed Forces take Afrin , inflicting very low civilian casualties


on the other hand Russia,Iran,Assad Regime killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians with heavy weapons , barrel bombs even chemical weapons

btw cowardly genocidal Russians even bombed hospitals everywhere
 
Its not an ambush when you violate the airspace of another country.
It was a legitimate measure since Turkey changed rules of angagement with Syria prior to the incident, thats why Russia couldnt do anything expect bitching about it with fake maps and propaganda.


When you send F-16s to fly below radar range for hours, while circling, then pop up, fire missiles and escape. Then tip off news media for cheap PR stunts in order to record the ambush---that is an ambush.

And Turkish is the one that ran to NATO for "consultation" and then apologized to Putin afterwards.
 
The warning has been done for 10 minutes over radio, the airspace has been violated multiple times during this, as said RoE changed i wouldnt warn at all.

NO. That is NOT how you do a warning. You fly to within visual distance. No more than 50 meters. You use hand gestures. Make sure the other side sees you. You do NOT assume they can hear your radio. Frequencies may be different.

This is how Chinese do warning. This is international standard. NOT like you nomad way of warning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
 
As a Turk you should keep quiet about genocides. Everyone know about Turkish genocides which are the worst in human history, not to mention what the Ottomans did when they ravaged Europe.
Ehh no, sry but this title goes to the red's namely Russians and Chinese, your numbers would even put Hitler to shame, rewriting history much?
 
When you send F-16s to fly below radar range for hours, while circling, then pop up, fire missiles and escape. Then tip off news media for cheap PR stunts in order to record the ambush---that is an ambush.

And Turkish is the one that ran to NATO for "consultation" and then apologized to Putin afterwards.

Let's see Turks pull that shit again. Ha! They get scared shitless when they see Su-35.

 
When you send F-16s to fly below radar range for hours, while circling, then pop up, fire missiles and escape. Then tip off news media for cheap PR stunts in order to record the ambush---that is an ambush.

And Turkish is the one that ran to NATO for "consultation" and then apologized to Putin afterwards.
Your pilots have been warned why does it matter how the planes approached the target? Accept that your pilots had no clue how to communicate when approaching a hostile airspace in a warzone, it was a legitimate shootdown, call it whatever you want.
 
only brave Turks are fighting against the US and Israel ,,, even Turks have no nuclear weapons
and dont worry , Turks killed the US-Israel-Germany-the UK,France,Russia,Iran and Syrian Regime backed terrorist groups such as Pkk-Ypg-Dhkpc-ISIS and FETO everywhere



US is destroying your economy while it still has troops in Turkey and still supports Kurds. Keep boasting how Turkey is brave, independent and powerful.

As for the Turks "destroying ISIS"--- please. 95% of ISIS was destroy by Syria and Russia. Most of ISiS was located east of the Euphrates. There was almost no ISIS presence in the areas under Turkish control. The PKK and YPG are far from being destroyed and the vast majority of Syria is under Russian and Syrian control, so Turks didn't achieve anything other then a small temporary buffer.




AFRIN is a mountainous area with fortifications where PKK-YPG was building bunkers and tunnels since 2015



on the other hand pathetic slaves Germany,France,Russia sucks American-Israeli butts ( we have seen cowardly Russians when the US killed over 200 Russians in Syria )




There were no 200 Russians killed in Syria. Most of those were Syrian fighters, and that included wounded. Moreover, none were Russia Military. Nice propaganda though but even Speigel busted those media reports and you sound like a kindergartener.




Turkish People never committed genocide against any nation or minorities



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That's not how you do a warning. You do a warning at visual range. You don't do a warning with an AIM-120. Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Look how we Chinese do warning. J-8 flew within meters of EP-3. THAT, my friend, is HOW you do a WARNING.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident

No wonder why the world laughs at nomads.



dont cry like little girls and be real men

Russians shot down F-104G unarmed photographic reconnaissance version in Turkish-Armenian border in 1977
without any warning

also Russians shot down Turkish RF-4 unarmed photographic reconnaissance version over the Mediterranean Sea
without any warning



Again the Ottomans lost almost every war they had against the Russian empire and they allied themselves with Europeans. The end result was Russians took land from the Ottamans and achieved military victory. The rest of your rant is too moronic to quantify or even justify having a debat--if you think Turkey can take on the US or Russia or even both then you have some loose screws in your head.

We have seen loser Americans and Russians in Vietnam and Afghanistan ,, super losers


and never forget that TURKS will never lose in Turkish soil

-- Turks kicked Crusaders
-- Turks kicked the UK+France+Greece+Armenia 199-1922


and by 2035 over 40% of Russian Army will be muslim ( over 20 million muslims in Russia , most of them are Turkic population ) women population is 11 million more than Men population in Russia

and in 15 years Turkey will develop everything ( over 600 Turkish military projects ) and there will be 7 Turkic States and intependent Turkic regions in Russia with over 300 million Turkic people

Russia will be our slave as like was until 1502
 
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