Turkey slaps retaliatory tariff hikes on US-made goods worth $553M

[HariPrasad]

Then why hell you guys were dancing on the signs of US and threatened Russia and shot down their plane ? At that time you were shouting just too much. I don't say what you do is right or wrong. It is just dysfunctional. When you guys were in full support of US just some time ago, didn't you know all this?

Out of some words, Why don't you enlighten us to create a proper foreign policy? What should we have done to be called as a matured one ? For example,

• While our NATO "ally" US is backstabbing us with supplying heavy weapons to well-known terrorist organization PYD/YPG/PKK under the name of fight against ISIS, Although numerous time of warning given by Turkish officials, Should we have stay cool to congratulate US officials ?
• In Syria, Should Turkey have supported a dictator killing own citizens who objects to its policy ?
• After Syria shot down Recce F-4, It was announced that Engagement rules have been changed in our south borders, and warned Russian/Syria not to approach Turkish borders. A few days ago before incident, Russian/Syrian aircrafts which violated Turkish airspace have been openly warned and As a consequences of repeated violations, Russian aircraft hit by TurAF. Should we have stay silent when Russia/Syria violates our space and locking/firing missiles to Turkish fighters flying over international waters?
• While Greek Cypriots were negotiating with European drilling firms to licence the blocks which is inside of Turkish EEZ and making deal with Israel and Egypt to make joint exercise to threaten Turkish interests in East Mediterranean, Should we have stay silent and let them achieve whatever they want in own EEZ ?
• While Some EU states openly supported coup attempt, Should we have let them to use Turkish land to achieve their goals under the name of NATO collaboration ?

If you want a puppet state not to disturb game makers in own region, You can solve all problems in favor of the one who causes those problems but Turkey is struggling to solve the disputes to protect own sovereign. We will never let anybody who is going to cause problems over our national interests. Think about all those I typed above and Draw a politic roadway for us which is going to be beneficial for Turkish Republic. Let's show us your mature plans !

 

[cabatli_53]

Then why hell you guys were dancing on the signs of US and threatened Russia and shot down their plane ? At that time you were shouting just too much. I don't say what you do is right or wrong. It is just dysfunctional.

I am not talking about X or Y politicians or what they have talked during crises time. I just want to know How would you make a matured policy, when you met such disputes around your borders. Just give a proper response !

 

[HariPrasad]

I am not talking about X or Y politicians or what they have talked during crises time. I just want to know How would you make a matured policy, when you met such disputes around your borders. Just give a proper response !

You failed to understand what I say. All these is happening for last few years. Your policy change has come in last few months. During all this time, you were NATO ally over dependent on NATO. You guys took a sudden U turn without proper assessment of pros and cons. Wait for some time. You guys are going to pay a very heavy price for your immature foreign policy. This is just a beginning. Your economy just shook up in few days. What you guys are going to face is much worse than this.

 

[cabatli_53]

You failed to understand what I say. All these is happening for last few years. Your policy change has come in last few months. During all this time, you were NATO ally over dependent on NATO. You guys took U turn without proper assessment of pros and cons. Wait for some time. You guys are going to pay a very heavy price for your immature foreign policy. Your economy just shaken up in few days. What you guys are going to face is much worse than this.

Which U turn you are talking ? Turkey was against Assad, supported opposition army and have many disagreements with Russia over Syrian conflicts since day-1. Turkey is already in NATO and wants NATO states not to arm PKK terrorists against ISIS. It is the main reason Turkey comes face to face with US and other NATO states. About heavy price story, I advice you to keep your baseless claims for yourself. If you want to make some sense, You should come to topic with some logical sources to prove us instead of your dreams and biases.

 

[HariPrasad]

I agree with you,but the essence of the post is correct.Erdogan foreign policy is a mess.You mess with egypt and gulf,then israel, then russia,then europe, now usa?Whats going on?You guys have gone crazy.

Read above. @AUSTERLITZ sir has beautifully explained the inconsistencies in your foreign policy. That's why I called it immature.

Which U turn you are talking ? Turkey was against Assad, supported opposition army and have many disagreements with Russia over Syrian conflicts since day-1. Turkey is already in NATO and wants NATO states not to arm PKK terrorists against ISIS. It is the main reason Turkey comes face to face with US and other NATO states. About heavy price story, I advice you to keep your baseless claims for yourself. If you want to make some sense, You should come to topic with some logical sources to prove us instead of your dreams and biases.

 

[cabatli_53]

Read above. @AUSTERLITZ sir has beautifully explained the inconsistencies in your foreign policy. That's why I called it immature.

I have also explained the reason of messing with states mentioned above and asked you a question to reveal a mature policy to solve all policy war without sacrificing the national interests with those states !

 

[HariPrasad]

I have also explained the reason of messing with states mentioned above and asked you a question to reveal a mature policy to solve all policy war without sacrificing the national interests with those states !

Its all right then. Whatever I had to say is said. I don't have anything more to say now.

 

[SALMAN F]

I think the west doesn't like turkey despise the secularization because turkey is the symbol of the islamic invasions of Europe like the ottomans and the seljuks

Also despise the Ottoman Empire decline the western power wanted an end to it even though with the final age of the ottoman was the age of nationalism, secularism and corruption but the british and the french didn't want the Ottoman Empire to stay even if it was a weak powerless satellite state the Ottoman Empire still represent the caliphate of the Sunni Islam like the the powerless Vatican still represent Christianity and one billion catholic even though the Vatican doesn't have any political or military influence on the european leaders like it have in the past influence in the european kings and nobility

 

[cabatli_53]

 

[HariPrasad]

I think the west doesn't like turkey despise the secularization because turkey is the symbol of the islamic invasions of Europe like the ottomans and the seljuks

Then why Turkey was ally of West all the time. Has west realised your point in last few weeks?

 

[SALMAN F]

Then why Turkey was ally of West all the time. Has west realised your point in last few weeks?

Their government was an Allie but not the turkish state or the people also japan as an Allie of the west that doesn't mean they would be accepted as westerners they still be seen as asians

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I think the west doesn't like turkey despise the secularization because turkey is the symbol of the islamic invasions of Europe like the ottomans and the seljuks

Also despise the Ottoman Empire decline the western power wanted an end to it even though with the final age of the ottoman was the age of nationalism, secularism and corruption but the british and the french didn't want the Ottoman Empire to stay even if it was a weak powerless satellite state the Ottoman Empire still represent the caliphate of the Sunni Islam like the the powerless Vatican still represent Christianity and one billion catholic even though the Vatican doesn't have any political or military influence on the european leaders like it have in the past influence in the european kings and nobility

excellent post.

Read above. @AUSTERLITZ sir has beautifully explained the inconsistencies in your foreign policy. That's why I called it immature.

Indians always flock together like flies. They hate Turkey because of its support for Pakistan, nothing more.

I want to inform my Turkish brothers, you are not in any obligation to answer these Indian trolls here. They are the curse of having a Pakistani forum.

 

[HariPrasad]

Indians always flock together like flies. They hate Turkey because of its support for Pakistan, nothing more.

I want to inform my Turkish brothers, you are not in any obligation to answer these Indian trolls here. They are the curse of having a Pakistani forum.

Than what about MOD who has expressed same views like me? You are such a stupid that you bring your ill mentality everywhere and you do not have to contribute anything to subject except abusing Indian posters here. Even I had a very good discussion with a guy from Turkey itself but Sick minded people like you pop up every where to disrupt any fair discussion happening in the forum. Your post has a garbage value and shall be treated likke that by every rational poster except few like you.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Than what about MOD who has expressed same views like me? You are such a stupid that you bring your ill mentality everywhere and you do not have to contribute anything to subject except abusing Indian posters here. Even I had a very good discussion with a guy from Turkey itself but Sick minded people like you pop up every where to disrupt any fair discussion happening in the forum. Your post has a garbage value and shall be treated likke that by every rational poster except few like you.

Calling other countries ‘immature’ qualifies as debate for you? You anti-Muslim bigots spill your venom everywhere you go. I’ll let you in on a secret, no one really cares what Indians think.

Now respect Turkey and Turks, and control your tongue.

 

[HariPrasad]

Their government was an Allie but not the turkish state or the people also japan as an Allie of the west that doesn't mean they would be accepted as westerners they still be seen as asians

Ohhh this is Hilarious. I like this. You can counter just anything with this single post.

Calling other countries ‘immature’ qualifies as debate for you?

Immature is a perfect civilized word. Many people used here is worse than this.

You anti-Muslim bigots spill your venom everywhere you go. I’ll let you in on a secret, no one really cares what Indians think.

But it seems you care too much. Even Turky guys did not copme with the BS you came up with. They just put their points and I counter it. Your sick mentality of bringing Muslim and Islam everywhere has a Garbage value which you can enjoy. I quite discussion with you.