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My only fear is; our boys won't be getting laid with the Russian wifes this summer.Love seeing the Turks have no fear of mother Russia.
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My only fear is; our boys won't be getting laid with the Russian wifes this summer.Love seeing the Turks have no fear of mother Russia.
Like I told you, you were born stupid ....Turcs are scrambling to cover their @sses after they received a lukewarm reply from their NATO bodies. Due to the proximity of the Turkish border to the airfield from which the SU24 took off and the geography of the area, encroachment of the Turkish border is hard to avoid, but last few seconds. The Russians plane have not shown any hostile postures toward Turkey, it was just hitting targets that were protected by Turcs.
you got facts in your face , yet you continue with your ignorance
The Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS U.S. Air Force plane flew up on November 24 from Prevez's air base in Greece. The second E-3A of the Air Force of Saudi Arabia flew up from air base of Riyadh. Both planes carried out one general task — determination of exact location of the VKS planes of Russia. They also chose "victim".
The American E-3A had to define a mode of behavior of RLS of steering of the Su-24M2 plane weapon, check, whether there is it in a condition of search or already executed capture and accompanies the purpose, developing data for firing. It is known that AWACS can steer actions of aircraft in fight and transfer BREO and PNK of planes information for conducting combat operations.
That is, to determine how helpless our plane ?
It turns out that, yes . As you know, the Su- 24M2 was returning from a mission , and his NCP worked in the " navigation" in conjunction with GLONASS , he walked to the base and is not ready to take action . E-3 all the time passed details of the Su- 24M2 pair patrol Turkish F-16CJ. This aircraft is specially produced for Turkey. Its feature is the presence of the computer , run the new radar AN / APG- 68 and fulfill the role of co-pilot , navigator.
But this information is not enough to enter the high-speed target. I used something else?
Indeed, output precision fighter F-16CJ further provides ground-based US Patriot air defense, stationed in Turkey, or rather their multifunctional radar AN / MPQ-53. Patriot air defense system can work with the E-3 electronic reconnaissance satellites and MENTOR, it is possible that the satellite constellation was more SC "GEOSTAT."
The flight path F-16CJ talking about precision output to the target by the method of triangulation: a pair of E-3A radar plus the Patriot air defense system plus RER MENTOR geostationary satellites, and possibly the SC "GEOSTAT."
At the same time the E- 3 was allowed to indicate where our aircraft in the air is determined by its train , speed, status of weapons control , radar air defense system Patriot conjunction with the satellite signals intelligence MENTOR provide telemetry Movement Su- 24M2 to the ground - that is, gave an accurate forecast sector appearance of our the aircraft relative to the mountainous terrain
It turns out that Turkish fighter exactly know where our plane waiting in ambush ?
Of course. A pair of F-16CJ went to the area of start-up and at a distance of 4-6 kilometers, almost at point blank range ( ! ) Let the missile "air -to-air » AIM-9X Sidewinder in the rear hemisphere Russian bomber . This radar AN / APG- 68 fighter jet launched a rocket operates on a " target illumination " : Turn at start-up and shut off after the rocket firm grip and hit the target
I did our pilots the ability to save the plane?
No. Chance to avoid defeat at the Su-24M2 crew were zero.
Against missiles AIM-9X with a new matrix infrared seeker, the imaging target in the infrared range, and insensitive to heat trap, the Su-24M2 is no counter systems. His means of countering: BKO "Carpathians", the station warning radar illumination ACT-15C teplopelengator LO-82 to detect missile launches, the station posing jamming SPS-161, the device release chaff and false thermal purposes AMS-50 - can not confront new missile AIM-9X.
And if there was support for the fighters ?
Now it will be. Of course, the tragedy could have been prevented pair of Su- 30cm , have adopted BKO " Hibiny - In ." But no one was waiting to strike back against an ally , especially warning about the details of the operation of our partner.
ou mean the " American partners " , most of those who belong to the "Patriots " and " AWACS " , as well as satellites , possibly involved in the operation?
Yes, with a high degree of probability. No Turkey 's own capacity for such meticulous and very precise work . And do not forget the second the E-3 , assigned to the Air Force KSA . The whole scenario quite fleeting , the score went to second.
Is everything went so smoothly?
The Turks still make a mistake, because of the provocation which is not entirely successful. F-16CJ took to defeat late in 2 minutes, when the Su-24M2 has already left the station 68 km disputed territory in northern Syria (its flight it took 1.5 minutes maximum). Team "defeat» F-16CJ not canceled, so the missile launch was carried out a little further calculation point. This is confirmed by the fact that shooting the fall of the Su-24M2 was planned as from the territory of Syria, and with Turkey, but "Syrian" pictures in more detail. It seems that it saved and our navigator. He was able to go to the "Zelenka" and wait for the search party there.
sorry for google.translate
Probably Russian MoD read my message. They made a new version closer to Turkish without stupid sharp turns.Radar diagram released by Turkey:
"Radar" diagram released by Russia:
Some kid drew with red marker on map Not also sharp turn in the end. They needed it to explain fall trajectory but it does not make any sense.
Is that how you support your claims?Turcs are scrambling to cover their @sses after they received a lukewarm reply from their NATO bodies. Due to the proximity of the Turkish border to the airfield from which the SU24 took off and the geography of the area, encroachment of the Turkish border is hard to avoid, but last few seconds. The Russians plane have not shown any hostile postures toward Turkey, it was just hitting targets that were protected by Turcs.
Gotta love how Russians hide the radar track but publish maps made with paint, smells guilty.Probably Russian MoD read my message. They made a new version closer to Turkish without stupid sharp turns.
Even Belgium apperantly buys oil from IS, even Assad buys oil from ISIS. If thats that big of a problem, why dont the americans etc dont just bomb the oil raffinaderies? Your perception of Turkey turns negativ because it doesnt act while no one acts.who is IS selling oil to, turkey or to europe? turkey can easily cut them of and stop the supply of money, but they choose to give them money in return for oil.
my perception of turkey has now changed to being negative.
Turkey is the main buyer . nothing to compare with any European countryEven Belgium apperantly buys oil from IS, even Assad buys oil from ISIS. If thats that big of a problem, why dont the americans etc dont just bomb the oil raffinaderies? Your perception of Turkey turns negativ because it doesnt act while no one acts.
Erdogan said no apology and if it happened, i would down it again!
Why do you take some words that all politicians start with? be a man!
May it be because of scale of the map ?stupid sharp turns.
Turkey is the main buyer . nothing to compare with any European country
(i didn't hear about Belgium anyway)
I dont have time for dragging anyone into anything. Im telling you the truth and if you dont like it. Too bad.
Attacks in your country have been brought down because your PM is a billionaire and with residences and businesses in the middle east. He stopped construction of the Iran-pak pipeline as ordered by the arabs.
Mark my words if you want, the attacks in pakistan will resume as soon as you have a leader who decides to go ahead with that pipeline. Arabs want pakistanis weak and dependent on gulf oil. They will do everything in their power to make sure that state of dependence remains. You cannot do anything about it even if you wanted.
As for pakistan doing well, you still cant provide electricity to your people despite the largest oil producer in the world being your primary 'muslim brother' and still need foreign aid to eat.
Doing very well indeed.
i think if we feared arab backlash and cut back on our fundings we would never have rejected to send force sinto yemen unanimaously in parliament so iranian pipe line if it is stalled has nothing to do with we fearing arab's wrath on us through proxy extremist scums ,yes pakistan has problems but those are due to mismanagement not due to lack of resources ,our cotton is best in the world but we don't have electricity to run textile mills to cash in on the final clothe,our mangoes and mandrins are the most sweet arnd the world but all of the agriculture produce face a bottle neck due to missmanagement we could have a agriculture economy well enough to rival california,brazil or australia if all the factors of production are there plus willing competent administrators,and that is only one side of the economy agricultural haven't mentioned the potential in trade routes,industry and minning ,tourism etc so pakistan does'nt hae to be worried abt cash from any one only thing we need to worry abt is getting our act together probably educationIf you were telling the truth you wouldn't have to proclaim it.
The attacks have been bought down due to the actions of the armed forces. Not because Nawaz is keeping them away due to his investments in the Middle East. The groups in question have their focus on the Khurasan region, and have no interest in the Middle East. I'm for the pipeline as well.
As for providing electricity to the people, Pakistan is working on it, and no one needs foreign aid to eat.
By the way, that was ever so classy of you to add the insult at the end, but do carry on. I'm sure it will be a useful learning experience to those amongst us who advocate friendship with you.