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we are not running a Mercenary army here. if they want that they can contact blackwater..Saudia by helping us in aid does not own us or our people. we reserve the right to help or not anyone for that matter specially when it comes to manpower. each solider is a our brother and citizen and we will not put our brothers in harms way for any amount of oil or money unnecessarily for that matter, unless we really have to. Saudia was acting as if we are karaay ka ghunday, i am surprized at our reaction of acting as if we were the defaulters, it should have been clear and swift.
Turkey has been there for us through thick and thin. I say support them with whatever assistance they request.
Well the decision to not go into Yemen was taken on the grounds of the effect this would have with one of our neighbours. We already have two hostile neighbours. Having three with whom we share roughly 80%+ of our border would create huge problems for our armed forces especially given the precarious situation in balochistan and the initiation of the CPEC.
With regards to Turkeys request for assistance this does not go against the interests of Iran as far as I can see. Kurdish seperstism exists in Iran as well and although the Iranian regime has supported the PKK in the past, in recent decades this support has toned down. Further IS poses a direct threat to the shia Iranian allies in Iraq. In essense supporting Turkey would not jeopardize our relationship with Iran like supporting the khaleejis would have done in Yemen. Different scenarios. That's what we can tell the Khaleejis. Further the Yemen war is going to end in nobody's victory. Houthis are Taliban v2.0. They won't fight the Pakistani army head on but will instead run into their caves and mountains and even if they lose there our jawans will suffer heavy losses.
Spirit !!!even IF assisting Turkey, means going against the interests of Iran, then so be it.. We MUST help Turkey, in anyway.
That is what I am saying, Yemen war is not over we can still send at least 8 to 10 JF-17 there and 8 to 10 JF-17 in Turkey to do the job, also 10000 troops each on both fronts. We can also send intelligence operatives on ground to do the work and guide GCC and Turkish Forces. Even if we are not the beggars still we can't afford a crisis in middle east, Sir that crisis sooner or later would burn Pakistan also.Hi,
Thank you for the tag---the Yemen crisis was a fiasco for Pakistan----it was a blunder of the ultimate magnitude.
Pakistan is the only muslim nation who has withstood an onslaught of terrorist insurgency in KPK, Fata and Baluchsitan---and then has stood up to a neighbor 3 ties in size militarily---.
So---basically---there is no other muslim military in the region with Pakistan unique experience and expertise.
It is very difficult to change position---from being a beggar to being a giver----. A beggar always begs and a giver always gives---that was the case with Saudi arabia and Emirates----we begged and they gave---we begged and they gave---we begged and they gave---and suddenly they asked for something---and as we had no clue how to give---we refused---and we refused horribly and humiliated and degraded our well wishers.
So---again---we are at a cross roads----now turkey may want assistance---so if we give them assistance---then what would we say to emirates and Saudi arabia----.
That yemen issue would bite Pakistan in the ar-se real hard----the pay back for that felony offense would be tough to swallow.
You are right---when one is a beggar for whole of his life---it becomes next to impossible to give---.
Allhumulliah. Thanks to Allah almighty and quick thinking by R&R. we couldnt have won this war without fully utilizing the capabilities ISI ,SSG and most of all PAF.This proves how much Pakistan efforts are acknowledged on global scale related to anti terrorism. Friendly countries now began to believe that Pakistan has real solution to wipe out insurgents supported by foreign powers and that's the reason they are seeking help.
Pakistan is only country to appear victorious in non conventional war even after facing damage of decade under worst economic and social conditions. A tough task in which super powers failed, Pakistan achieved.
That is what I am saying, Yemen war is not over we can still send at least 8 to 10 JF-17 there and 8 to 10 JF-17 in Turkey to do the job, also 10000 troops each on both fronts. We can also send intelligence operatives on ground to do the work and guide GCC and Turkish Forces. Even if we are not the beggars still we can't afford a crisis in middle east, Sir that crisis sooner or later would burn Pakistan also.
That's where tough decision regarding forign policy comes in. its the British who divided the lands, after second world war, in such a manner that there will be always instability. As far is turkey is concerned its the past was the ottoman empire and it stretched from the Atlantic ocean to the Indian ocean. so yeah Kurdistan was part of Ottoman empire. As same as Indian states were one by one conquered by the Mughals and then the British combined all states into one for administrative unit. As far as Kashimir is concerned? that is the legitimate part of Pakistan as it ceded to Pakistan during the partition which Hindu leaders caused by not giving into the 14 points of Mohammad Ali Jinnah who was also a congressman once and tried as much as possible to avert the partition and considered it only the last resort, for safeguarding the rights of the minorities in India just like they are under threat at the moment under current Indian regime. Like it or not Pakistan was destined to be the insurance policy for the minorities of India. Jinnah in an interview said once that Pakistan will have similar relations with India as Canada has with USA!No right to self-determination for the Kurds?