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Turkey says ready for unlimited cooperation with Egypt

man trust me , because of kenan evren and a few you think all generals are like that , you need to change your mindset

Nobody said something about Egypte becoming Iran, Cant believe how naive you are Deno seriously. Because a Islamist Party is in power doesnt mean they are radical and are going to change it to Iran all the suddon.

ah shut up , whats that got to do with relations , when you comment say im talking on behalf of myself remembering that 99% of turkey is muslim , and being muslim doesnt mean you have to be extremist , or non-secular , i hope better relations





Yes they are the same. Only difference was that our army never had the enough power to stand against the civilian goverment. The Egyptian army is basicly a huge corperation which own Tens of thousands of companies and asseds in Egypte including Vacatian resorts and high class hotels. Thats why Egyptian army can maintaine power because they dont need Goverment funding and thats why the Turkish army is weak against the Civilian Goverment.
 
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Very good news. Egypt has alot of young people which means a fresh youth who know how to deal with Mubarak and made a succesful revolution. I hope Mosri will be worth for the egyptian youth who saved Egypt.
 
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Turkey is one of the closest countries to my heart, and to most Egyptians matter of fact. Turkey and its people keep impressing me everyday. They gives me hope seeing how much they have move forward. Wish we can learn from them. I actually with all Muslim countries can learn from Turkey, especially when it comes to hard work, education, democracy, and human rights.

Being good friends with America and NATO.. gets you places.

Being anti-Israel and having nukes capable of destroying Israel gets you nowhere (Pakistan, Iran).

I honestly think that it's unfair to compare Turkey to say Iran or Pakistan who were created way after, and have been in much longer and dangerous wars (well, for Pakistan at least). Turkey is friends witH NATO, so America/Israel sees them as no threat.
 
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Nobody said something about Egypte becoming Iran, Cant believe how naive you are Deno seriously. Because a Islamist Party is in power doesnt mean they are radical and are going to change it to Iran all the suddon.

Iranian revolution started like this too... Most people didn't talk about Sharia until Khomeini took the power and declered the Islamic state... Iran's population was a lot like ours... Secularists were equal to Islamists in numbers and majority were just normal people but after the revolution the majority normal people were silent because of basic human nature ''fear''...
 
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Indeed, those so called "ılımlı dindarlar" were not able to stop it because they feel like they had to side with radicals againts leftists, not an alien scenario, think about it , lets say Sharia supporters and leftists started to clash, what would happen ? what would ordinary people and "ılımlı" people would do ? fight againts radicals ? side with leftists ? hell no.
 
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Israeli policymakers are worried with this tectonic shift in the region. They would do their best to maintain the “Camp David” peace treaty.The already souring relationship after Mavi Marmara killing, with Turkey and change in guard in Egypt makes it more difficult for them. Egyptian and Turkish strategic relationship will make the life of Jewish sate very difficult ” that seems quite obvious “ when two major forces of the region would oppose the Israeli policy in tandem therefore, Israel will have to swim against the tide in the turbulent water of Mediterranean.
 
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oh shut up , you talk too much rubbish. you love when leaders big BS threats , then you like them , iran i will wipe isreal off map , ok mate but first help syria get golan heights

Being good friends with America and NATO.. gets you places.

Being anti-Israel and having nukes capable of destroying Israel gets you nowhere (Pakistan, Iran).

I honestly think that it's unfair to compare Turkey to say Iran or Pakistan who were created way after, and have been in much longer and dangerous wars (well, for Pakistan at least). Turkey is friends witH NATO, so America/Israel sees them as no threat.
 
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Iranian revolution started like this too... Most people didn't talk about Sharia until Khomeini took the power and declered the Islamic state... Iran's population was a lot like ours... Secularists were equal to Islamists in numbers and majority were just normal people but after the revolution the majority normal people were silent because of basic human nature ''fear''...

There is a huge difference between Islamic revolution and Islamic influanced Parties which took office legally.
 
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Revolution was not Islamic at all in the beginning, until Mullahs showed their true face, as I said later ordinary people and "ılımlı" religious people automatically sided with Mullahs, think about it what ordinary and ılımlı people would do in Turkey ? side with radicals or side with leftists ?
 
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There is a huge difference between Islamic revolution and Islamic influanced Parties which took office legally.

Revolution was not Islamic at all, revolutionists even promised Turks their independence but after the revolution mullahs took the power and showed the middle finger to others...
 
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The saying goes like this. "He who has Egypt has Middle East"

Though Egypt mainly lies is North Africa and only a small share of its land mass lies in Asia (Sinai Peninsula) yet its history makes country the leader of the Middle East. As history suggests that any change in Egypt directly affects Syria ( I mean entire Levant) and the change in Syria directly affects the Iraq
 
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Being good friends with America and NATO.. gets you places.

Being anti-Israel and having nukes capable of destroying Israel gets you nowhere (Pakistan, Iran).

I honestly think that it's unfair to compare Turkey to say Iran or Pakistan who were created way after, and have been in much longer and dangerous wars (well, for Pakistan at least). Turkey is friends witH NATO, so America/Israel sees them as no threat.

What are you trying to proof then? Are you blaming Turkey because the countries you have mentioned are in the middle of nowhere?

Egypt will decide to its future. It can become an economical powerhouse in the region and control some of the Arab States, or it can be a country who will arm itself with nukes because of security issues.
 
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Egyptian consitution is pretty much based on the Turkish. It to is a Secular state and its army to was assigned to make sure people will follow it. Thats why the Army refuses to announce the election votes because its obvious that the Muslim Brotherhood has won. If the Muslim Brotherhood will take office then Turkish-Egyptian Relationship will reach a new peak.

Egypt is not secular state. Egyptian constitution is based on Islamic law.
 
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can any one please tell me the definition of secularism.is secularism a universal system of Governance? The gentleman "George Jacob Holyoake" who coined this word would have never thought that the word secularism, would be used, misused & abused this much.
 
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