Turkey reveals real intentions behind scheme in Libya, to begin oil exploration

[PakAlp]

Problem is not so much Ikhwan of Egypt, they are merely a political party. It is the one in Levant which is more dangerous. Levant MB had been co-opted by US while in exile in KSA in 70s 80s. Even today they control American Muslim organizations to promote liberalism, voter drives, and lgbt among Muslims.

Dark side is they are radical Arab nationists who use religion as cover for political activities. I have observed them for a long time, it is a toxic group of people.

Is it possible for you to PM me. I would like to learn more about them.

The issue I have with certain Islamic groups is that they manipulate religion to play politics. They even played politics regarding the coronavirus. The headline
"How will the Islamic Khilafah deal with the coronavirus as opposed to the western corrupt system"

The secular/liberal parties mostly use economy, poverty, education, corruption as a political tool for power, but the islamic groups use Islam as a tool.

Some UK extremist got jailed for trying to blow up a place and in court were screaming Allah hu Akbar and holding Quran. They cause chaos but when faced with heat, hide behind Islam.

 

[bsruzm]

Sissi and the Egyptian army declared MB as a terrorist organisation but Turkey support MB, if Turkey says to Egypt that your internal affairs are not our concern then the relations would be back to normal. How supporting MB would unify the ummah?

Unfortunately, their internal affairs are shaped by other powers. That's the problem.

I hoped Egypt to be in this alliance, Egypt-Turkey and Pakistan .. a sight to be seen, stronger military ties and also economically.

Sad to see this filthy regime of ours to take hostility against Turks, but in the meanwhile Sisi regime doesn't really respect Gulf countries, he once made jokes about them in a leaked phone call ( he said that they have money like rice and they are half states not real states). I hope he can get back to his mind if he has any and make real approach towards Turkey.

See the regional dynamics once Egypt and Turkey cooperates in seas, economy and defense

 

[PakAlp]

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See the regional dynamics once Egypt and Turkey cooperates in seas, economy and defense

That would be checkmate style alliance. 2 countries with large populations, strong military, and location is spot on.

 

[Amun]

Read Haftars biography he became US citizen after agreeing to work for CIA during his exile, i was also surprised when i read it.
And you guys want him to become Libyas dictator.

you missed the main point ..... Which is

NATO including Turkey and the tiny state of Qatar aligned together and attacked Qazafi and removed him .... then left Libya and Libyans to their fates ..... being a failed state and an attracting spot for chaos and Terrorists ..... then it becomes a threat to Egypt through 1200 KMs boarders .....

Egypt asked the international community and the Libyan neighboring countries to start dealing with the Libyan issue ...... but all of them ..... I mean ALL OF THEM aren’t in a hurry..... but Egypt was under attack of the chaos in Libya and terrorists crossing the boarders.

Even attacked terrorists camps in Libya several times ..... then Haftar appeared and started to control the chaos ..... so Egypt supported them .....

Now the 1200 KMs boarders are secured , the terrorists ,Chaos and Militants are away from the Egyptian boarders by 1500 KMs and number 1 wanted Terrorist for Egypt caught by LNA and delivered to Egypt ......

and you guys think Egypt will leave you to destroy LNA .... this will not happen .

 

[Big Tank]

I love how Pakistani Turko Fanboys sabotage every thread and make it

"turKEy PAkistAn irOn brOtherS allIance iNshAllAh ruLe dA worLD"

For god sake let a topic remain on it's title.

 

[xenon54 out]

you missed the main point ..... Which is

NATO including Turkey and the tiny state of Qatar aligned together and attacked Qazafi and removed him .... then left Libya and Libyans to their fates ..... being a failed state and an attracting spot for chaos and Terrorists ..... then it becomes a threat to Egypt through 1200 KMs boarders .....

Egypt asked the international community and the Libyan neighboring countries to start deal with the Libyan issue ...... but all of them ..... I mean ALL OF THEM aren’t in a hurry..... but Egypt was under attack of the chaos in Libya and terrorists crossing the boarders.

Even attacked terrorists camps in Libya several times ..... then Haftar appeared and started to control the chaos ..... so Egypt supported them .....

Now the 1200 KMs boarders are secured , the terrorists ,Chaos and Militants are away from the Egyptian boarders by 1500 KMs and number 1 wanted Terrorist for Egypt caught by LNA and delivered to Egypt ......

and you guys think Egypt will leave you to destroy LNA .... this will not happen .

What did Turkey do to kill gaddafi? If anything then it was you new allies the French.
Either way Turkey is supporting the legitimate goverment and hopefully no CIA supported warlord will take the power in libya.

 

[-SINAN-]

you missed the main point ..... Which is

NATO including Turkey and the tiny state of Qatar aligned together and attacked Qazafi and removed him .... then left Libya and Libyans to their fates ..... being a failed state and an attracting spot for chaos and Terrorists ..... then it becomes a threat to Egypt through 1200 KMs boarders .....

Egypt asked the international community and the Libyan neighboring countries to start deal with the Libyan issue ...... but all of them ..... I mean ALL OF THEM aren’t in a hurry..... but Egypt was under attack of the chaos in Libya and terrorists crossing the boarders.

Even attacked terrorists camps in Libya several times ..... then Haftar appeared and started to control the chaos ..... so Egypt supported them .....

Now the 1200 KMs boarders are secured , the terrorists ,Chaos and Militants are away from the Egyptian boarders by 1500 KMs and number 1 wanted Terrorist for Egypt caught by LNA and delivered to Egypt ......

and you guys think Egypt will leave you to destroy LNA .... this will not happen .

From what i understand there is government at the West (which has been recongnized by the UN), there is a government at the East, and there is Haftar from the East, attacking to West.

Again from my understanding, Turkey wants to eliminate Haftar, after then wants to reach a political agreement between East and West governments and wants to unite them.

Is that works for Egypt?

What did Turkey do to kill gaddafi? If anything then it was you new allies the French.
Either way Turkey is supporting the legitimate goverment and hopefully no CIA supported warlord will take the power in libya.

Well, looks like Egypt has legitimate security interests.

 

[Beast]

I love how Pakistani Turko Fanboys sabotage every thread and make it

"turKEy PAkistAn irOn brOtherS allIance iNshAllAh ruLe dA worLD"

For god sake let a topic remain on it's title.

They are hopeless, didn't u know that?

 

[SQ8]

They are hopeless, didn't u know that?

Much like their iron brothers the Chinese fanboys..

I love how Pakistani Turko Fanboys sabotage every thread and make it

"turKEy PAkistAn irOn brOtherS allIance iNshAllAh ruLe dA worLD"

For god sake let a topic remain on it's title.

Previously it was Pak-Chin dosti wan sui..

Parai Shadi mein Pakistani deewany

 

[xenon54 out]

Well, looks like Egypt has legitimate security interests

There are other ways than supporting a warlord though.

 

[-SINAN-]

There are other ways than supporting a warlord though.

Yeah, though when you look through Egyptian perspective, Sisi would like to see an authoritarian, dictator like himself in Libya. Saudi, Egptian and UAE's biggest fear is for democracy to take root in Middle East as it would challenge their thrones.

 

[shah_123]

Those are good intentions, beneficial for both Turkiye and Libya.

 

[Amun]

From what i understand there is government at the West (which has been recongnized by the UN), there is a government at the East, and there is Haftar from the East, attacking to West.

Again from my understanding, Turkey wants to eliminate Haftar, after then wants to reach a political agreement between East and West governments and wants to unite them.

Is that works for Egypt?


Well, looks like Egypt has legitimate security interests.

to make things clear .....
there was an election monitored by international personnel for the parliament.... and MB has lost it .

- that parliament was originally in Tripoli then attacked by MB Militias so it is moved to the east to Tubrok .
- then and to decrease the tension there was Sokhairat agreement that allow SARAG and GNA to be in power for only 1 year and extended another year only ..... that was about 5 YEARS AGO.

noting that SARAG has came to Tripoli through an Italian Frigate and international agreements not through Libyans themselves.

SARAG refused to take the oath in front of the Parliament.....
So GNA is not legitimate for not being recognized by the parliament and extend it’s terms for 5 or 6 years rather than 2 years as the original agreement said .

Yeah, though when you look through Egyptian perspective, Sisi would like to see an authoritarian, dictator like himself in Libya. Saudi, Egptian and UAE's biggest fear is for democracy to take root in Middle East as it would challenge their thrones.

Please let the democracy thing a side ...... who is trying to spread democracy ....!?

Turkey ..... with a authoritarian dictator that is changing the constitution just to be in power for about 20 years now .....!? Or putting thousands of opposition into jails like FETO guys .

Qatar ...... which only hear about democracy in fairy tales ...... and no single person in Qatar in any level or field is elected .....!?

As I said ..... let the democracy thing a side .

 

[xenon54 out]

Yeah, though when you look through Egyptian perspective, Sisi would like to see an authoritarian, dictator like himself in Libya. Saudi, Egptian and UAE's biggest fear is for democracy to take root in Middle East as it would challenge their thrones.

Thats pretty much the point i guess.

 

[Big Tank]

Much like their iron brothers the Chinese fanboys..


Previously it was Pak-Chin dosti wan sui..

Parai Shadi mein Pakistani deewany

I support the concept of Ummah. But right now, 80 percent of the Muslim countries are American puppets.

The ones which are not are also fighting among each other (Syria v Turkey).

We Pakistan begin dancing everywhere.