Turkey ready to play role in Kashmir settlement

[dray]

For issue like Bosnia, Palestine, Kashmir etc ... UN was actually created. Kashmir issue is not a bi-literal debate by the way....

Can you please write the paragraph of shimla agreement where Pakistan agreed upon - It is a biliteral issue and solve only by two countries ?

Ignorance is bliss..................it helps you sleep well.

Simla Agreement July 2, 1972

Read this and don't bother us anymore with your ignorance.

dude, speak clearly

You know what I mean.

 

[Jf Thunder]

You know what I mean.

yes, yes i do

 

[foxbat]

Can you please write the paragraph of shimla agreement where Pakistan agreed upon - It is a biliteral issue and solve only by two countries ?

• • That the two countries are resolved to settle their differences by peaceful means through bilateral negotiations or by any other peaceful means mutually agreed upon between them. Pending the final settlement of any of the problems between the two countries, neither side shall unilaterally alter the situation and both shall prevent the organization, assistance or encouragement of any acts detrimental to the maintenance of peaceful and harmonious relations;
  
  
• In order to initiate the process of the establishment of durable peace, both the Governments agree that:
  • Indian and Pakistani forces shall be withdrawn to their side of the international border.
  • In Jammu and Kashmir, the line of control resulting from the cease-fire of December 17, 1971 shall be respected by both sides without prejudice to the recognized position of either side. Neither side shall seek to alter it unilaterally, irrespective of mutual differences and legal interpretations. Both sides further undertake to refrain from the threat or the use of force in violation of this Line.
  • The withdrawals shall commence upon entry into force of this Agreement and shall be completed within a period of 30 days thereof.

 

[kurup]

For issue like Bosnia, Palestine, Kashmir etc ... UN was actually created. Kashmir issue is not a bi-literal debate by the way....

Are you sure ??

United Nations was formed in 1945 . Kashmir issue came into existence after 1947 .

 

[shuntmaster]

India should offer Turkey its services to resolve the Kurdish issue and bring closure to the Armenian genocide by the ottomans.

 

[Shahmir]

Ignorance is bliss..................it helps you sleep well.

Simla Agreement July 2, 1972

Read this and don't bother us anymore with your ignorance.



You know what I mean.

How come you have such a strong devotion to Shimla agreement which was signed between ZA bhutto and Indira gandhi who was supposedly from "khangress" party of your country which I am sure you hate passionately judging from your avatar.

 

[dray]

How come you have such a strong devotion to Shimla agreement which was signed between ZA bhutto and Indira gandhi who was supposedly from "khangress" party of your country which I am sure you hate passionately judging from your avatar.

The agreement was done between the GOVERNMENTS of two countries, not between two persons.

Btw, I just changed my profile pic, for the message written on it, click on it to read it.

 

[Luca1]

The only solution for peace is for both India and Pakistan to keep their part of Kashmir. Because anything more than that will lead to war. Since both sides have govern their own side of Kashmir for this long, why not make it permanent?

 

[tesla]

Kashmir issue about right to self determination: Aziz
September 27, 2014
Adviser to Prime Minister on
National
Security and Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz has emphasised that Jammu and Kashmir was not a territorial dispute between Pakistan and India but it was primarily about the exercise of the right to self-determination by Kashmiri people, as promised to them in the UN Security Council resolutions and the assurances of Indian leadership.

Sartaj Aziz, who is visiting New York for the 69th Session of UN General Assembly, participated meeting of the OIC Contact Group on Jammu and Kashmir at the UN headquarters in New York on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly session on 25th September. The meeting was chaired by the Secretary General OIC, H.E Iyad Ameen Manani. The Foreign Minister of Turkey Mevlut Cavusoglu and Saudi Permanent Representative to OIC Mohammad Tayyab attended the meeting on behalf of their countries. Niger's Minister for Foreign Affairs was represented by Director General of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The Advisor said the fundamental right to self determination was denied to Kashmiri people despite a passage of more than six decades. During this period, the Indian security forces had unleashed the worst form of torture and oppression, but the valiant people of Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir had neither abandoned hope nor given up their legitimate struggle for self-determination.

He pointed out that the Cathy Scott-Clark report had confirmed over 6,000 unmarked graves in the Indian Occupied Kashmir. The recent
discovery
of mass graves at 38 sites in North Kashmir had added a new dimension to this gory saga. The OIC, UN,
EU
and international human rights organisations had, time and again, voiced concern over these gross and systematic human rights violations but the Indian security forces had shown little regard for international opinion.

The Adviser urged the international community to take meaningful steps to put an end to the ordeal of the Kashmiri people and to call upon India to stop violations of their fundamental human rights. The Advisor reiterated that Pakistan wanted a peaceful resolution of the dispute in the best interest of peace and stability in the region. Pakistan had sincerely embarked on a composite dialogue process with India. India's decision to call off the 25 August Foreign Secretary level talks with Pakistan on a flimsy pretext was a setback to the negotiations process, the Advisor added.

Speaking of the recent devastating floods in Kashmir, the Advisor expressed concern over the reports of selectivity in distribution relief assistance by Indian authorities. He appealed to the OIC to provide relief assistance to the flood affected people on both sides of LoC, and conveyed Pakistan's readiness to facilitate its delivery among the affectees without discrimination.

In his statement, the Foreign Minister of Turkey stressed that the Kashmiri's aspirations for self-determination must be addressed in accordance with relevant UNSC resolutions. The international community had a moral and legal responsibility to resolve this longstanding issue. Turkey wanted a peaceful settlement of Kashmir which should be acceptable to Pakistan, India and the people of Kashmir. Turkey was ready to play its due role in this regard.

Expressing concern over cancellation of talks by India and the rising tensions across LoC, the Turkish Foreign Minister called on the parties resume the negotiations process without delay and engage in a meaningful and result-oriented dialogue for a peaceful resolution of the Kashmir dispute.

The Saudi Permanent Representative to OIC stated that Jammu and Kashmir was a longstanding conflict on the agenda of the UN Security Council which needed resolution by the international community. Saudi Arabia strongly supported the realisation of the national rights of Kashmiri people through a peaceful dialogue, which was the only way out for both India and Pakistan. Any settlement of the conflict must take into account the aspirations of Kashmiri people. Saudi Arabia wanted India and Pakistan to resume negotiations process and the United Nations to invest more efforts in a peaceful resolution of the conflict. It was high time that the Kashmiri people are given their fundamental human rights and a chance to live in peace and dignity.

President of AJK Sardar Muhammad Yaqoob Khan and a delegation of the True Representatives of Kashmiri people, represented by Ishtiyaq Hameed, also delivered statements which they highlighted the ground situation arising from the continued Indian occupation, oppression, and the recent devastating floods in Kashmir. The Kashmiri delegation also presented a Memorandum to the Secretary General containing proposals for a peaceful resolution of the Kashmir issue.

Kashmir issue about right to self determination: Aziz | Business Recorder

 

[SirHatesALot]

Pakistan must withdraw forces from Azad Kashmir and grant its control to India,then we can hold referendum in Kashmir.

 

[halupridol]

• • That the two countries are resolved to settle their differences by peaceful means through bilateral negotiations or by any other peaceful means mutually agreed upon between them. Pending the final settlement of any of the problems between the two countries, neither side shall unilaterally alter the situation and both shall prevent the organization, assistance or encouragement of any acts detrimental to the maintenance of peaceful and harmonious relations;
  
  
• In order to initiate the process of the establishment of durable peace, both the Governments agree that:
  • Indian and Pakistani forces shall be withdrawn to their side of the international border.
  • In Jammu and Kashmir, the line of control resulting from the cease-fire of December 17, 1971 shall be respected by both sides without prejudice to the recognized position of either side. Neither side shall seek to alter it unilaterally, irrespective of mutual differences and legal interpretations. Both sides further undertake to refrain from the threat or the use of force in violation of this Line.
  • The withdrawals shall commence upon entry into force of this Agreement and shall be completed within a period of 30 days thereof.

that kinda seals the deal,doesnt it

The only solution for peace is for both India and Pakistan to keep their part of Kashmir. Because anything more than that will lead to war. Since both sides have govern their own side of Kashmir for this long, why not make it permanent?

we will agree to that,,,but it is Pakistan who wishes otherwise.

 

[TOPGUN]

Do Palestians have the same rights as Israelis? Can Palestinians send legislators to the Israeli parliament? Do Palestinians have their own legislature? Can Palestinians travel freely anywhere in Israel? What exactly is this stupid comparison about?

Kashmiris have the same rights as any other Indian, and then some more. If Kashmiris are "boxed in" by India, then so are Tamilians, Maharashtrians, Biharis etc.

Palestine, my foot.

Its not a stupid comparison at all , all those words you listed above are all for show to the world where in reality the people of Kashmir have no rights and are treated worse then animals . " A illegal occupation is what it is called " this is the reason india won't come to the table nor let UN bring the issue and solve it because they know they will loose simply . Do some home work and understand what your country is doing and has been doing then come back here to write .....

 

[TOPGUN]

SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT BALOCHISTAN

SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT BALOCHISTAN

From no where can it be said the same about Balochistan , plus we are talking about Kashmir and not Balochistan and not but least Balochistan is a part of Pakistan the same can't be said about Kashmir which your country has under illegal occupation which Is not recognized by the UN nor the world may I say more .

 

[DingDong]

From no where can it be said the same about Balochistan , plus we are talking about Kashmir and not Balochistan and not but least Balochistan is a part of Pakistan the same can't be said about Kashmir which your country has under illegal occupation which Is not recognized by the UN nor the world may I say more .

India doesn't recognize any forum or third party in any dispute which concerns India and Pakistan. J&K is an integral part of India, only issue to be resolved is the return of Azad Kashmir.

It is not our moral obligation to "not raise" Balochistan, we will chalk out our own strategy.

 

[TOPGUN]

India doesn't recognize any forum or third party in any dispute which concerns India and Pakistan. J&K is an integral part of India, only issue to be resolved is the return of Azad Kashmir.

It is not our moral obligation to "not raise" Balochistan, we will chalk out our own strategy.

Kashmir is not a integral part of india never was never will be , and it is not your or your countries moral obligation to raise concern over Pakistan and its internal issues such as Balochistan or any other simply lets get that straight and keep it that way.