Chakar The Great
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Not gona happen.
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Wow, that some dreamy plan!Iran, Iraq & Jordan need to give Pakistan & Turkey land access. If they do then:
Step 1: bring in S400 batteries.
Step 1
2: station PAF & TuAF JF17 & F16 squadrons in Syria.
Step 3: bring in brigade size artillery & tank battalions infantry on the west Bank border.
Step 4: Bring in Ghaznavi SSM Batteries & aim at isreali air bases.
Step 5: bust through the isreali defences.
Step 6: move the S400s, PAF & TuAF squadrons into Back.
Step 7: TAKE ALL OF JERUSALEM!
Well intended....but Pakistan does not have guts under IK and Bajwa.The easiest and most non controversial way to barge into this issue is to make it a religious matter, rather political. There must be a "Al Aqsa protection force" formed from all major Muslim armies special forces, deployed in and around Al Aqsa Mosque to preserve its sanctity. Events of few days should have made abundantly clear that Al Aqsa cannot be left at the mercy of Zionist and extremist Jewish terrorists. Sunni and Shia block will both agree. Pakistan should send Al Zarrar ATU as they specialise in close quarters fighting. Once in, then there is a lot of other things that can be done.
Glory be to Him, who carried His servant by night from the Holy Mosque to the Further Mosque the precincts of which We have blessed. Al Isra, 17:1.On what basis are we declaring that there is a duty for Muslims to be rulers over Al Aqsa? From where does this duty arise, exactly, since we no longer use it as a qibla?
Allah loves His followers. But it is up to the followers to be up to His standards to receive His Mercy and Bounty.
Glory be to Him, who carried His servant by night from the Holy Mosque to the Further Mosque the precincts of which We have blessed. Al Isra, 17:1.
Baitullah was built first, and 40 years later Al Aqsa Masjid.
Both Baitullah and Al Aqsa belong to one who are Singularity monotheistic.
Jews were monotheistic at one time but not anymore. It is the responsibility of the Nation of the Last Messenger now.
Time is nigh but few years away.
There are two aspects.Blessed it is, yes, no doubt. But how does the above mean that Muslims must rule over it?
Not knowing the full background to it - but maybe Jordan should have just stayed out of 67 and then Jerusalem would still be under their control?There are two aspects.
Does Palestine belong to palestine?
Is palestine is a Muslim Issue also?
Pakestenian were original natives of the land before even when jews conquered it under Saul in early 11 century BCE.
jews were exiled a 2nd time in 70 AD and only started returning from 1920"s on about Usmani Caliphate was abolished. They were given a state by USA, UK. France. And Palestinians were exiled in turn.
Yaroshelem was under jordan till 1967.
So it is an occupation. And land belongs to Palestenians. Israel is a defacto ruler over Palestine and AlAqsa but not de jure.
There is an spiritual aspect, but we leave it there.
Keep your hat on. This is not going to happen. Erdogan is just scoring points and he knows this will not go anywhere. If he realy wanted to do something tangible then he would give the west 24 hours to rein in Israel or Turkey will leave NATO and throw out US forces in Turkish air bases.Hats off to turkey
No. Even if Palestinians were Christian this would be playing out as is.Is palestine is a Muslim Issue also?
Whatever he is still better than those who are maintaining silence.Keep your hat on. This is not going to happen. Erdogan is just scoring points and he knows this will not go anywhere. If he realy wanted to do something tangible then he would give the west 24 hours to rein in Israel or Turkey will leave NATO and throw out US forces in Turkish air bases.
Watch how fast they would muzzle Israel.
Not really. I hate pretenders. I would rather honesty then give false hope that some fools will fall for. I have regular interaction with Turks. They tell me all this is Erdo's drama. This week he will be crying for Pales. Next week he will be doing business deals with Israeli's. The guy is just a gymnast. He is good at massaging everybody with end goal being to perpetuate his rule and benefit Turkey.Whatever he is still better than those who are maintaining silence.
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Well intended....but Pakistan does not have guts under IK and Bajwa.
IK is generally clueless about what to do except "nahin chorron ga", and weighted down by empty finances. Plus army chief is a guy who is better be a section officer in FO.
Need courage to do what you propose.
Well, you got that right. But you still don't understand the motives. The love for Harmain Shareefain is not religious but money. Saudia Arabia's oil wealth is the underlying driver. It offers so much opportunity for serving and retired military. It even offers lucrative opportunities for the political and religious elite. The best thing about all this is it also ties in with western power elites as you know full well the Saudi and other monarchies are deeply wedded with American ruling class and through that Israel.Its more for Bajwa and Co then IK. IK is a new phenomena. The deep state has always been there. So when we hear, that Saudi Arabia territorial integrity will be protected at all costs, due to the presence of Harmain Shareefain, from past and present generals, what are their views and policies about "Qibla-e-Awal" , the third most holiest place in Islam? I want to hear what DG ISPR has to say about this.
If they do that then US ban sale of F-16 spare parts to Turkey. It's not something Turkey can afford to do.