Turkey plans talks with Taliban over Kabul airport

[Saddam Hussein]

Erdogan is the most hypocrite person I've seen. This guy had a 45 min long conversation with the new Israeli PM trying to take him into confidence. Sometimes he'd begin reciting Quran and sometimes he'd save suicide victims trying to jump off from the bridge.

In real, this man is just there to serve the cross and unfortunately this is what Turks have been doing. No matter how hard he tries to emerge as a Muslim hero, he'd be ALWAYS remembered who destabilized Syria while teaming up with USA when he could use these tactics on Israel.


Turks love the Uzbek Militia for their Turkish linkage. Northern Alliance and Dostum if you remember. Dostum lived in Turkey for long after Taliban took over the government and were craving for his blood due to his warcrimes. Turkey is trying to save these Uzbek warlords on behalf of US.

Turkey has always been acting that way and a lot of Muslims fell for it.

They use Islam for foreign influence, inside turkey they don't care.

 

[Big Tank]

Bro that is only in certain part of Turkey not all of Turkey.

You may be meaning that its low in other parts and high in specific. But this is Turkish culture now. It'd be low in small cities but still, they're way secular into everything. Although there are many good practicing Muslims in turkey too.

 

[TNT]

In our view, the Taliban’s approach right now is not how a Muslim behaves to another Muslim,”

That not a good statement. How does Turkey treat the muslim kurds? Or does muslim behave by allowing alcohol and prostitution in their country? Would be better if Turkey doesnt use Islam infront of taliban.
About the news, its a smart approach from Turkey to talk to taliban, they might allow a Turkish contingent to stay. Pakistan will definitely help out.

 

[Big Tank]

Turkey has always been acting that way and a lot of Muslims fell for it.

They use Islam for foreign influence, inside turkey they don't care.

I agree with you here. For foreign interference, you won't see a hardcore Muslim than Erdogan.

Inside Turkey, contrary to that, you won't see a more secular nation than them.

That not a good statement. How does Turkey treat the muslim kurds? Or does muslim behave by allowing alcohol and prostitution in their country? Would be better if Turkey doesnt use Islam infront of taliban.
About the news, its a smart approach from Turkey to talk to taliban, they might allow a Turkish contingent to stay. Pakistan will definitely help out.

One thing to understand is that Turkey will only use delay tactics while arming Uzbek miltias of Dostum the criminal.

Its curious that why Turkey wants so bad to keep Kabuk airport. Dostum have been a old friend of Turks and lived there for long time after escaping Taliban onslaught in 90s.

 

[shahbaz baig]

It is really disappointed news for muslim Umaaah, they both trying to play with fire

So Taliban & Turkey should negotiate.

there are few afghan leaders I must say puppets of USA currently living in Turkey and they are definitely provoking to president Erdogan.

 

[Big Tank]

It is really disappointed news for muslim Umaaah, they both trying to play with fire

So Taliban & Turkey should negotiate.

there are few afghan leaders I must say puppets of USA currently living in Turkey and they are definitely provoking to president Erdogan.

Erdogan is not a kid. He's the biggest hypocrite you'd find on earth. Turkey is trying to help it's long-time friends in Uzbek Militias of Northern Alliance of Abdul Rasheed Dostum. They'd try to fake negotiations with Taliban to buy time for Uzbek emergence via Kabul while trying to sabotage joint efforts of Iran Pakistan and China to ensure peace in Afghanistan.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

You may be meaning that its low in other parts and high in specific. But this is Turkish culture now. It'd be low in small cities but still, they're way secular into everything. Although there are many good practicing Muslims in turkey too.

you are right but its pretty conservative in the eastern side. Try visiting Turkey.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Here guys Ill tell you what will happen. Taliban will agree with Turkey on its troops in exchange for Turkey dropping support to Northern Alliance .

Folks dwell too much on the "black and white" scenarios! The real "game" is in the "Grey" areas!!!!

 

[Shawnee]

Taliban does not need a deal. A victor does not need a deal.

They will take over the cities and a few quadcopters from Pak or Iran given to Taliban will take care of Kabul airport.

It will be a piece of cake.

 

[Big Tank]

The reason Turkey wants to stay in Afghanistan.

To save Dostum, this old afghan babykiller friend of them.

 

[BRAVO_]

everyone is in afghanistan for his own interest, pakistan supported taliban so that when they come in to power they clear our backyard which can provide us opportunities to divert our attention toward our real threat at eastern border...etc, Kabul airport is Afghanistan’s primary airport that doubles as a military base — serves as a vital link to the outside world in the mountainous landlocked country where road travel remains far from safe. Control of the airport amounts to control of Afghanistan’s gateway to the world thus it gives it not only political importance but strategic too,
while Turkish-US relations are also not what they were used to be in past. Afghanistan is the only issue where they are still close so Erdogan will use it as a political chip to gain all sort of benefits since he break deals much better than pakistani politicians... that is why after his first meeting with biden he said
“If they do not want us to leave Afghanistan, if they want a certain [Turkish] support there, then the diplomatic and financial backing of the United States will be of importance,” he said. “I told [Biden] about our idea to collaborate with Pakistan and Hungary. There is currently a consensus. There is no problem on this,” he added.
which mean whatever turkey is doing they have a full support from pakistan, so lets not blame Turkey for everything and in my opinion both these countries will talk with Taliban with an idea of safe functioning of the airport as it is also crucial for the delivery of humanitarian aid by international charity groups and Taliban also aware about the importance of foreign aid as Afghanistan has no industrial or agricultural base.

Cut in short.... for the time being Turkey does seem to be the best possible alternative after the United States and NATO withdrawal from Afghanistan. Such a role — IF approved by the UN Security Council and backed by the international community, it could buy Turkey a whole new level of regional and international attention and political leverage.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

That not a good statement. How does Turkey treat the muslim kurds? Or does muslim behave by allowing alcohol and prostitution in their country? Would be better if Turkey doesnt use Islam infront of taliban.
About the news, its a smart approach from Turkey to talk to taliban, they might allow a Turkish contingent to stay. Pakistan will definitely help out.

"We have kept Turkey physically intact, but have killed her from inside. She will be never be able to regain her past glory" - Lord Curzon after the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne

"We need to take the Kur'an away from the Muslims, or make them forget it. As long as they adhere to it we can't dominate over them" - Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881), the British PM

FYI: When Erdo'an was studying in a Imam Hatip School (Republic of Turkey's modern version of Medrese) his "secular" compatriots were playing football with the Kuran-i Kerim (Nauzubillah)!! When he was elected PM 20 years back, even Hijab was banned in Turkey! And, no kids could learn the Kuran-i Kerim before the age of 14! The entrance to the Imam Hatip Schools was severely curtailed. And, the grads of those schools were barred from the entrance to the universities. Government officials were being dismissed for their wives' Hijab...

From there he has single-handedly brought Turkey to it's current level in a "democratic" and "non-violent" manner! Now, Imam Hatip grads can join even the military as officers!! So, he does know something about Islam....

By the by, currently how many top Muslim leaders are the grads of Medreses????

 

[Path-Finder]

For a #of reasons!!!

• Turkey has historical connections and interests in Afganistan.
• In the landlocked Afganistan, which is the Heart of Asia, the Kabul airport is the main source for the connection with the outside world.
• Once Turkey is out it'll be very difficult to get back given the other major powers, who aren't exactly angelic and innocent like babies. Even the Taliban have a "history" with them.
• If the airport falls the connection to the West, UN etc. is over. So, no humanitarian aid. Who do you think will face 10s of millions of refugees???
• If the West feels everything is lost who do you think will face the worst wrath??? Who will be in the FATF black list? Who will be under extreme trade/travel/finances etc. sanctions? Who'll lose $s from exports and remittances? Who'll be in the economic, financial etc. turmoil? What about the worst social turmoil in which country?
• Why do you think Pak is in another US QUAD with Afganistan and Uzbekistan?
• Etc.

You do realise that taliban are natives of that country and unlike the propaganda they are not some alien species.

Then there is a massive problem when it comes to choosing sides. supporting the side where dostum a vile putrid excuse for humanity is being kept in Turkey is NEVER going to be acceptable to Pakistan either. That mofo is marked for death by Taliban and Pakistan because of his deeds.

This excuse that talib cannot operate a airport is nothing but a sad lie. As I said before Talib are not stupid and why would they allow NATO to keep up appearance on the airport so people can slip into and out of afghanistan and be spoilers in the region?

But if Turkey wants to get into a heated frakas with the Talib then so be it.

Northern alliance
Turkey kinda supports them
Kabul is important

there is not going to be a northern alliance because most of those wearlords have gotten out and settled abroad. secondly the taliban captured border posts with tajikistan for a reason.

Turkey want to go head to head with Taliban then that is their prerogative.

 

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President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday said Turkey was planning talks with the Taliban over the hardline Islamist group’s refusal to let Ankara run Kabul airport after US troops withdraw from Afghanistan.

“God willing, we will see what kind of talks we will have with the Taliban and see where these talks take us,” Erdogan told journalists in Istanbul. Turkey has been negotiating with US defence officials over its offer to help secure and run Kabul airport, which is key to allowing countries to retain a diplomatic presence in the war-torn country after the troop withdrawal. Erdogan and US President Joe Biden discussed the issue in their first face-to-face meeting on the margins of a NATO summit in June.

Turkey maintains hundreds of troops in Afghanistan, but a Turkish official told AFP that they were “not combat forces”. Ankara and Washington have been discussing issues such as financial and logistical support for Turkey’s mission from the United States and NATO, officials said. Last week, the Taliban called Turkey’s offer “reprehensible”. “We consider the stay of foreign forces in our homeland by any country under whatever pretext as occupation,” the group said.

Erdogan said the Taliban was not adopting “the right approach”. “In our view, the Taliban’s approach right now is not how a Muslim behaves to another Muslim,” he said, urging the insurgent group to stop its occupation. “We call on the Taliban… to show the world as soon as possible that peace prevails in Afghanistan.”

Turkey plans talks with Taliban over Kabul airport - Daily Times

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday said Turkey was planning talks with the Taliban over the hardline Islamist group’s refusal to let Ankara run Kabul airport after US troops withdraw from Afghanistan. “God willing, we will see what kind of talks we will have with the Taliban and see where...

dailytimes.com.pk

1 simple Question does Turkey allow Afghan taliban to take control of Ankara Air Port even both are brothers.?

 

[Ultima Reaper]

Turkey was 4th largest combat troops supplier in Korean War having 740 soldiers killed for a cause that had nothing to do with them.
Turks did the same against Syria by coordinating with NATO and Takfiri Militias being responsible for millions of innocent deaths. Only if Turkey hadn't sided with US and Takfiris, Syria wouldn't have bled that much. But Erdogan's dreams of Turkish supremacy got him nuts which is hitting back now. Same way Mr Caliph is trying to get in Afghanistan jumping on the power of Uzbek Militias of Abdul Rasheed Dostum, the biggest war criminal.


Women from Muslim countries who have that urge of settling in West mostly end up into shit and sleeping with everyone. Even Pakistani and Indian women go nuts in west.

This however doesn't happen locally in Iran and Pakistan where any tom dick harry foreigner can come and date women, sleep with them. It may be happening but the scale is too low in these countries unlike Turkey which is hub of adultery, wine and liberalism

you sound like iranian propoganda channel...any relation ?

1 simple Question does Turkey allow Afghan taliban to take control of Ankara Air Port even both are brothers.?

Can any international org or country trust Taliban for airport operations after several hijacks especially 911..let turkey handle it