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    ANKARA: Turkey and Pakistan have agreed on the sale of a batch of 30 Turkish-made T129 ATAK multirole combat helicopters, reports foreign media quoting Turkish officials.

    A government election manifesto revealed by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey and Pakistan “just recently” agreed on the contract, which is the largest-ever Turkish-Pakistani defence contract. The two countries have been negotiating a T129 deal since 2014. This is the first export contract for the helicopter.

    Turkish Aerospace Industries, or TAI, maker of the T129 under license from the Italian-British AgustaWestland, has so far delivered 35 T129s to the Turkish Army and the Gendarmerie force.

    Before the deal, the T129 went through various tests in Pakistan. Most recently, the T129 was showcased at a March 23 military parade for Pakistani National Day. “We expect further [T-129] contracts to follow the order from Pakistan,” a Turkish defence procurement official said. “We are in talks with a number of countries.” The official declined to name any of the potential T129 buyers. One TAI official said, however, that potential buyers could include Jordan, Libya and Azerbaijan.

    The Turkish government has not disclosed a price for the T129 deal with Pakistan, but aerospace industry sources estimate the contract to be worth about $1.5 billion, almost equivalent of Turkey’s annual defence exports. Turkey’s defence exports rose slightly from $1.677 billion in 2016 to $1.739 billion in 2017. Turkish officials aim to attain $10 billion in defence and aerospace exports by 2021.

    TAI started to deliver the T129 to the Turkish Army in April 2014. Under the full program, a batch of 59 helicopter gunships will be delivered. There is an option for a follow-on order of 32 more choppers. TAI officials say the T129 features 97 percent sovereign production.

    The Turkish Army deploys T129 gunships at its domestic southeastern military bases to support anti-terror operations against Kurdish rebels fighting for autonomy in southeast Turkey, northern Iraq and northwest Syria. The T129 choppers are Turkey’s first locally made platforms under license. The T129 features a tandem seat, twin-engine and NATO-interoperability for attack, armed reconnaissance, and precision-strike and deep-strike mission capabilities for day and night and in all weather conditions.

    The T129 incorporates asymmetric weapon-loading capability and enables the use of all weapons according to mission requirements. For close-combat support missions, a 20mm gun turret with a capacity of 500 rounds as well as 70mm rockets with a capacity of 76 rockets have been integrated.

    For multipurpose missions, 16 CIRIT 70mm laser-guided air-to-ground missiles, 8 UMTAS long-range anti-tank missiles and 8 Stinger air-to-air missiles are integrated, in addition to advanced electronic warfare and electro-optical systems. The T129 cockpit provides situational awareness through visibility arcs and integrated mission and communication systems. The Aselflir-300T targeting sight system increases image quality and range performance with real-time image processing and multiple target tracking with a thermal camera, laser rangefinder, designator and spot tracker. The AVCI helmet-mounted display system provides integrated display capabilities to crew for extensive missions.

    The T129 deal is the largest-ever Turkish-Pakistani defence contract. Earlier, in 2013, Pakistan’s Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works penned a deal to build a replenishment tanker designed by Turkish technology and systems engineering company Savunma Teknolojileri Muhendislik ve Ticaret.

    In another deal, TAI upgraded a batch of 41 F-16 fighter jets for the Pakistani Air Force. That program involved avionics and structural modernization of the aircraft. TAI also is in talks with Pakistan for the sale of its Hurkus basic trainer aircraft.
    https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/323545-turkey-pakistan-reach-largest-ever-defence-contract
 
Pakistan is borrowing few hundred million dollars from China to avoid the bankruptcy. Not sure how Pakistan is going to pay $1.5 billion to Turkey for this deal but it's time Pakistan better concentrate on economy rather than buying stuff she can't afford.
 
The deal has been sitting on COAS desk for a long time, glad its signed.

Pakistan is borrowing few hundred million dollars from China to avoid the bankruptcy. Not sure how Pakistan is going to pay $1.5 billion to Turkey for this deal but it's time Pakistan better concentrate on economy rather than buying stuff she can't afford.
If only this concern was genuine.
 
Pakistan is borrowing few hundred million dollars from China to avoid the bankruptcy. Not sure how Pakistan is going to pay $1.5 billion to Turkey for this deal but it's time Pakistan better concentrate on economy rather than buying stuff she can't afford.
Oh thank you for your concern for Pakistan. You and your family will work over time in certain district of Mumbai to provide Pakistan the money. Now get lost..I mean get to work.
 
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Pakistan is borrowing few hundred million dollars from China to avoid the bankruptcy. Not sure how Pakistan is going to pay $1.5 billion to Turkey for this deal but it's time Pakistan better concentrate on economy rather than buying stuff she can't afford.
we aren't paying any single penny right now.
Turkey is paying that bill now, Pakistan will pay Turkey later.
 
we aren't paying any single penny right now.
Turkey is paying that bill now, Pakistan will pay Turkey later.

I guess I missed it in the article. Is it a kind of loan from Turkey which Pakistan has now taken for this deal ? How Pakistan is going to repay it ? Any interest and timescale involved to repay it ? Thanks in advance.
 
I guess I missed it in the article. Is it a kind of loan from Turkey which Pakistan has now taken for this deal ? How Pakistan is going to repay it ? Any interest and timescale involved to repay it ? Thanks in advance.
I told you already...
You and your family will work over time in certain district of Mumbai to provide Pakistan the money

we aren't paying any single penny right now.
Turkey is paying that bill now, Pakistan will pay Turkey later.
Can you kindly stop feeding the troll. It is none of his business. Simple.
 
The two countries have been negotiating a T129 deal since 2014. This is the first export contract for the helicopter.
It's been 4 years this deal is under negotiation. This could've been finalized in 2015 or 2016 as the economic condition was better than what it is today. It's a very wrong time for Pakistan to buy expensive items right now.

What if China thinks that you're taking money from them to bail you out but - at the same time - you buying expensive stuff from Turkey? My assasement is: This could result in geo-stratagic and geo-political implications.

I told you already...
 
I guess I missed it in the article. Is it a kind of loan from Turkey which Pakistan has now taken for this deal ? How Pakistan is going to repay it ? Any interest and timescale involved to repay it ? Thanks in advance.
as soon as Pakistan get the whole delivery of copters and its spare parts.
we will tell them that we dont have any money to pay you. as you can see our economical conditions.
we will give them 2 choices.
1. take your copters back.
2. get our loans off, in return we will publicize your copters and weapons by blowing up t-72, t-90 tanks with your copter.

What if China thinks that you're taking money from them to bail you out but - at the same time - you buying expensive stuff from Turkey? My assasement is: This could result in geo-stratagic and geo-political implications.
don;t worry we will say to china that we want your missile systems but we dont have any money, kindly loaned us some billions that we could buy those missile systems..

Turkey - Happy,
China - Happy
and Pakistan - Double Happy

It's been 4 years this deal is under negotiation. This could've been finalized in 2015 or 2016 as the economic condition was better than what it is today. It's a very wrong time for Pakistan to buy expensive items right now.

4 years for negotiation. still better the mother of all deal..
 
It's been 4 years this deal is under negotiation. This could've been finalized in 2015 or 2016 as the economic condition was better than what it is today. It's a very wrong time for Pakistan to buy expensive items right now.

What if China thinks that you're taking money from them to bail you out but - at the same time - you buying expensive stuff from Turkey? My assasement is: This could result in geo-stratagic and geo-political implications.

Self defence is important regardless of any other consideration

Both China and Turkey are superb allies, the platform had to mature and turkey is still taking delivery of its own helicopters

So Pakistan delivery is still a few years away but signs are good for tot and alot of goodies
 
I guess I missed it in the article. Is it a kind of loan from Turkey which Pakistan has now taken for this deal ? How Pakistan is going to repay it ? Any interest and timescale involved to repay it ? Thanks in advance.
Don't you read @war&peace 's post? You are going to work some **** light area to earn and pay for the deal.....and thank you for your services :lol:
 
Pakistan is borrowing few hundred million dollars from China to avoid the bankruptcy. Not sure how Pakistan is going to pay $1.5 billion to Turkey for this deal but it's time Pakistan better concentrate on economy rather than buying stuff she can't afford.
begani shadi mein abdullah deewana
 

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