Turkey officially enemy of both China and Russia

[retaxis]

Russian president hates the Turkish president and policies as he called him a terrorist and told him to die.

Chinese president hates Turkish president because Turkish president said genocide is occuring in Xinjiang and supports separatists etc.

China and Russia are both global powers with nukes and hold vetos in the UN.

Turkey also upset many other countries in the region including Iran (saying Iran is helping its enemies with its Shia militia), Greece (old history), Kurds (in the region) and even Israel (to a degree)

Before China and Russia always put up with Turkeys business and never bother to throw any weight at Turkey and I am not saying they will now (like Russia/China/Iran will not go to war with Turkey). HOWEVER i think it is time for the two global powers and Iran (as a regional nation) will begin to put some resources into making Turkeys life a little more difficult due to the troubles Turkey is giving the above said countries. This 'trouble' could i suspect come in the form of giving money/weapons/training to the Kurds, alienating Turkey politically/economically, providing discrete support and stirring up trouble within Turkey e.g. supporting other political parties etc.

What do you guys think will happen as relations worsen between China/Russia/Iran/Kurds and Turkey? What sort of methods will they take to 'punish' Turkey and how will Turkey respond? We all know Turkey is by no means a small or weak country and will not take things lying down like some of its neighbours.

 

[Fireurimagination]

The said Turkish president can pendown a book 'Dummies guide on how to spoil relations with everybody'

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Turkey is on the look for new allies

Turkey keen on partnering with ASEAN | Asia Times

 

[[Bregs]]

This is a big diplomatic defeat for Turkey's president

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

This is a big diplomatic defeat for Turkey's president

Not exactly!
Russia, Iran and Greece are historic opponents of Turkey

Issues with China is new here, given the Uighur issue. Even a change in Turkish leadership will not change this given no change in continued persecution of Uighurs in China.

 

[Serpentine]

The sooner this MB gang led by Erdogan (who is dreaming of another Sultanate), ruling Turkey is gone, the better for whole region.

 

[atatwolf]

Turkey is on the look for new allies

Turkey keen on partnering with ASEAN | Asia Times

I support this. Turkey can add a lot of power to this Indonesian coalition. Indonesia is the biggest Muslim country in the world. There is a lot room for cooperation on economic and military platforms.

The sooner this MB gang led by Erdogan (who is dreaming of another Sultanate), ruling Turkey is gone, the better for whole region.

I don't know what you mean with sultanate. Turkey is light years ahead of Iran in terms of democracy. Even if erdogan goes the development of the military and economy will continue.

 

[RazorMC]

Russian president hates the Turkish president and policies as he called him a terrorist and told him to die.

Chinese president hates Turkish president because Turkish president said genocide is occuring in Xinjiang and supports separatists etc.

China and Russia are both global powers with nukes and hold vetos in the UN.

Turkey also upset many other countries in the region including Iran (saying Iran is helping its enemies with its Shia militia), Greece (old history), Kurds (in the region) and even Israel (to a degree)

Before China and Russia always put up with Turkeys business and never bother to throw any weight at Turkey and I am not saying they will now (like Russia/China/Iran will not go to war with Turkey). HOWEVER i think it is time for the two global powers and Iran (as a regional nation) will begin to put some resources into making Turkeys life a little more difficult due to the troubles Turkey is giving the above said countries. This 'trouble' could i suspect come in the form of giving money/weapons/training to the Kurds, alienating Turkey politically/economically, providing discrete support and stirring up trouble within Turkey e.g. supporting other political parties etc.

What do you guys think will happen as relations worsen between China/Russia/Iran/Kurds and Turkey? What sort of methods will they take to 'punish' Turkey and how will Turkey respond? We all know Turkey is by no means a small or weak country and will not take things lying down like some of its neighbours.

Not accurate imo

"... told him to die" ? Did he personally tell you that?

Russia's main issue with Turkey is over Syria and Russian presence in the Mediterranean.

Turkey does not rely on Russian and Chinese veto powers in the UNSC.

Chinese will not put diplomatic relations at risk over mere comments.

Russian influence in the region stems from Iran, hardly a match for Turkey in any scenario.

 

[Menace2Society]

Turkey will always have a friend in Pakistan.

 

[babur_khan_is_sunni_turk]

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china & chinese are the biggest enemies of pakistan, egypt and turkey. the biggest enemies of their religion and the biggest enemy of sunnis. replace china & chinese with russia, europe, america, india, the same is true. replace china & chinese with jews, christians and other religions, the same is true.

the enemies of pakistan, egypt and turkey use shiites, seculars, salafis, interfaith-dialoguers and other sects to terrorize sunnis. syria and irak are examples.

ethnic turks are the army, the soldiers, the standard bearers of sunnis. it is the sunni turk army that ended umayyads and established the abbasids. ethnic turks defended sunnis against its internal and external enemies for 1250+ years.

erdogan as leader, the sunni turks of turkiye are free. soon the sunni turks of pakistan and the sunni turks of egypt are going to be free. sunni turks of pakistan, egypt and turkey united are going to dish out justice to the enemies of sunnis: china & chinese, shiites & iran, etc etc ...

examples: sunni saljuk turks & shiite fatimids and sunni othmani turks & shiite safavids.

major conflicts are on the horizon as sunni turks in pakistan, egypt and turkey unite. there is nothing the enemies of turks & sunnis can do.

 

[flamer84]

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china & chinese are the biggest enemies of pakistan, egypt and turkey. the biggest enemies of their religion and the biggest enemy of sunnis. replace china & chinese with russia, europe, america, india, the same is true. replace china & chinese with jews, christians and other religions, the same is true.

the enemies of pakistan, egypt and turkey use shiites, seculars, salafis, interfaith-dialoguers and other sects to terrorize sunnis. syria and irak are examples.

ethnic turks are the army, the soldiers, the standard bearers of sunnis. it is the sunni turk army that ended umayyads and established the abbasids. ethnic turks defended sunnis against its internal and external enemies for 1250+ years.

erdogan as leader, the sunni turks of turkiye are free. soon the sunni turks of pakistan and the sunni turks of egypt are going to be free. sunni turks of pakistan, egypt and turkey united are going to dish out justice to the enemies of sunnis: china & chinese, shiites & iran, etc etc ...

examples: sunni saljuk turks & shiite fatimids and sunni othmani turks & shiite safavids.

major conflicts are on the horizon as sunni turks in pakistan, egypt and turkey unite. there is nothing the enemies of turks & sunnis can do.

 

[Baloch Pakistani]

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china & chinese are the biggest enemies of pakistan, egypt and turkey. the biggest enemies of their religion and the biggest enemy of sunnis. replace china & chinese with russia, europe, america, india, the same is true. replace china & chinese with jews, christians and other religions, the same is true.

the enemies of pakistan, egypt and turkey use shiites, seculars, salafis, interfaith-dialoguers and other sects to terrorize sunnis. syria and irak are examples.

ethnic turks are the army, the soldiers, the standard bearers of sunnis. it is the sunni turk army that ended umayyads and established the abbasids. ethnic turks defended sunnis against its internal and external enemies for 1250+ years.

erdogan as leader, the sunni turks of turkiye are free. soon the sunni turks of pakistan and the sunni turks of egypt are going to be free. sunni turks of pakistan, egypt and turkey united are going to dish out justice to the enemies of sunnis: china & chinese, shiites & iran, etc etc ...

examples: sunni saljuk turks & shiite fatimids and sunni othmani turks & shiite safavids.

major conflicts are on the horizon as sunni turks in pakistan, egypt and turkey unite. there is nothing the enemies of turks & sunnis can do.

WTF? Hey brother, leave us out of this shia sunni bullshit. We are already trying to fight this "sectarian shit" out of this country and trying to be a Muslim ONLY. Sorry but you won't help matters here on this forum. You are not welcomed here with this mentality. But if you have some positive things to share then you are absolutely

 

[mike2000 is back]

Russian president hates the Turkish president and policies as he called him a terrorist and told him to die.

Chinese president hates Turkish president because Turkish president said genocide is occuring in Xinjiang and supports separatists etc.

China and Russia are both global powers with nukes and hold vetos in the UN.

Turkey also upset many other countries in the region including Iran (saying Iran is helping its enemies with its Shia militia), Greece (old history), Kurds (in the region) and even Israel (to a degree)

Before China and Russia always put up with Turkeys business and never bother to throw any weight at Turkey and I am not saying they will now (like Russia/China/Iran will not go to war with Turkey). HOWEVER i think it is time for the two global powers and Iran (as a regional nation) will begin to put some resources into making Turkeys life a little more difficult due to the troubles Turkey is giving the above said countries. This 'trouble' could i suspect come in the form of giving money/weapons/training to the Kurds, alienating Turkey politically/economically, providing discrete support and stirring up trouble within Turkey e.g. supporting other political parties etc.

What do you guys think will happen as relations worsen between China/Russia/Iran/Kurds and Turkey? What sort of methods will they take to 'punish' Turkey and how will Turkey respond? We all know Turkey is by no means a small or weak country and will not take things lying down like some of its neighbours.

Well there is little China and Russia can do even if they wanted to 'pay back' Turkey in kts own coin.lol since even though they are relatively big powers they have little to no links/influence in the region like the west/U.S does. However i will say Iran's case is different as it has much more presence/influence in the region and could cause much more trouble for Turkey if it really came to that. However supporting the kurds could also be detrimental to iran's own restless (albeit to a lesser extent) kurdish minorities.

Anyway, your article is off mark, as China and Russia dont have much hostilities with Turkey as a whole, well im talking about the governments, as it can be seen from Erdogans visit to China resently where he condemn any terrorism againsy China(though its more like paying lip service.lol ) and the Russian Turkish pipeline that is being discussed is also a big project wjich wouldnt even happen without some degree of understanding between both parties

So i dont see them trying anything fumny with Turkey even if they wanted to, it will be very difficult for them to do so without the west/U.S and Turkey not finding out/blocking any such moves. So your whole article is more about sensationalism/hype IMO.

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china & chinese are the biggest enemies of pakistan, egypt and turkey. the biggest enemies of their religion and the biggest enemy of sunnis. replace china & chinese with russia, europe, america, india, the same is true. replace china & chinese with jews, christians and other religions, the same is true.

the enemies of pakistan, egypt and turkey use shiites, seculars, salafis, interfaith-dialoguers and other sects to terrorize sunnis. syria and irak are examples.

ethnic turks are the army, the soldiers, the standard bearers of sunnis. it is the sunni turk army that ended umayyads and established the abbasids. ethnic turks defended sunnis against its internal and external enemies for 1250+ years.

erdogan as leader, the sunni turks of turkiye are free. soon the sunni turks of pakistan and the sunni turks of egypt are going to be free. sunni turks of pakistan, egypt and turkey united are going to dish out justice to the enemies of sunnis: china & chinese, shiites & iran, etc etc ...

examples: sunni saljuk turks & shiite fatimids and sunni othmani turks & shiite safavids.

major conflicts are on the horizon as sunni turks in pakistan, egypt and turkey unite. there is nothing the enemies of turks & sunnis can do.

I agree.
I love PDF always makes my day when im bored/had a bad night.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

Erdogan is the single biggest threat to Turkey's security and prosperity.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Not accurate imo

"... told him to die" ? Did he personally tell you that?

Russia's main issue with Turkey is over Syria and Russian presence in the Mediterranean.

Turkey does not rely on Russian and Chinese veto powers in the UNSC.

Chinese will not put diplomatic relations at risk over mere comments.

Russian influence in the region stems from Iran, hardly a match for Turkey in any scenario.

I agree with your points. However the last one got me thinking......Iran IS NO MATCH For Turkey?

I will say they are prerty close and Iran is more than a match for Turkey(though Turkey might be ahead in some sectors). You cant say they are no match. No match will be like say Britain,France or Germany compared to Turkey.