Iranians great contribution was literature. We learned good poems for them nothing more. We are still speaking Turkish or sect is not shia, it's Sunni hanafi. They were one of our many subjects.
Again saying, he was one of the gear of a great war machine, nothing more.
You had promised to be better towards Iranians even though not one single Iranian has posted anything here before me.
I don't know why this thread is brought up, but it has started an unnecessary piss contest it seems. Turks (Seljuks to be precise) were nomadic people with no heritage or renown culture, no settled civilizations before (nothing wrong in it, that's the nature of Nomads), they were great warriors and were great at wars, but that's it. Except war and military, everything else about in Seljuk empire was Persian/Persianized, from official language of the country, to science and literature contributions, courts, architecture and many other things. Even their capitals are all within today's borders of modern Iran (except Merv which is just few kilometers away from Iran's border in Turkmenistan) which all were old cities with prominent civilization/history behind them.
I personally don't feel any shame in the fact that Seljuks were originally Turks, it doesn't matter for me, they were also humans just like us. Actually I'm proud, because of what they became, how they became civilized and how they adopted and contributed to Iranian culture, it's not something you see regularly in history, to see invaders become conquered by culture, language, heritage and history of the place they invade. What matters is, what they did, what they became and what remained of them, their heritage, their culture. Empires come and go, all of them without any exception.Or maybe unlike modern people, they didn't gave a shit about the whole "Turk/Persian" thing and chose what they saw best for them. Achaemenids and Sassanids were also great warriors, but just like any other empire, they were doomed to go because of corruption, internal dissatisfaction and many other factors. they ruled modern Turkey and an area larger than Ottoman or Seljuk empires, but all of them are gone. No empire is eternal, be it Seljuks, Sassanids, Seljuks or Romans.
Another thing, I don't consider 'conquering' only a military matter. Sometimes, the invaders are 'conquered' by the culture and heritage of the place they occupy. No one denies that Turks were great warriors and conquered many areas, but the whole 'we ruled you more' argument is beyond stupid and belongs to elementary school children.
Now were are all of those empires? All are gone, even the great Turkish empires are gone, what remains is the people, we are here, you are here.
Btw, although I find it pretty stupid to argue over something like this, but yes, Turks were also 'defeated' or conquered militarily in various wars, not only by Persians, but also by Russians, British or Europeans and Safavids.
First Perso-Turkic War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Second Perso-Turkic War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But so what?
None of it matters now to fight over. Look at U.S, they barely have 300 years of history and look where they are now. One of the problems with we Middle Easterners is that we are too stuck in the past, no one is going to give prizes to us over a war that happened 1000 years ago, no one is going to advance our country now because of how great we were thousands of years ago.
History is a good thing to learn from, but not to waste your time over it with a dick measuring contest. All of those empires are gone now, no matter how powerful they were, because that's how it works.
PS: Sorry for the long post, but some explanations or clarifications was needed I think. We should literally get over it, or maybe I just take it too seriously, because when I see how our people see each other when they meet in real world, I understand none of them gives a shit about these stuff and this happens only on internet.