Turkey lists al-Nusra Front as terrorist organization

[xenon54 out]

simple.There are a lot of terrorist camps and shelters operational in Turkey with hundreds of thousands of wahabbis for training to fight in syria. The chess pieces are in place. CIA or Saudi arabia just needs to bribe intelligence officials and the floodgates will open.

considering that erdogan has removed and purged many able generals ,I even doubt that turkish military will be able to control the number of wahabbi terrorists who are operating from Turkey.

A few bribes to the right people and wahabbis will do a coup with relative ease . We saw the neo-nazi coup in ukraine.Americans bribed SBU officials for achieving it.

Lets wait and watch.

So your saying that the same people who are desperately fighting Assad for 3 years will overthrow the Turkish goverment?
Not to mention that ISIS is allready our enemy and now Nusra in terror list, they would allready do their thing if they had any chance to harm Turkey.

 

[ResurgentIran]

There will be no victory before the muslim world is completely filtered that is what the hadith says, the Syrian war is the ultimate test and the beginning of the great battles , its going to separate the munafiquines and kuffars from the true muslims .

so far a lot of groups have been exposed shia/khawarij of ISIS /nationalists baathis n nasirits / fake new Syrian n Iraqis MBs n traitorous tribes or Sahawat /the fake bearded talafis in Egypt/ the Arab dictators led by the traitorous house of Saud /....

this is the essence of tribulations or fitan, they r supposed to filter people up.

ya ali madad. lolz

 

[sovcomflot]

So your saying that the same people who are desperately fighting Assad for 3 years will overthrow the Turkish goverment?
Not to mention that ISIS is allready our enemy and now Nusra in terror list, they would allready do their thing if they had any chance to harm Turkey.

Yes. Assad has three things

1)support of people
2)support of military
2)support of intelligence services



But ,Erdogan,

1) support of people -low
2)support of military-lol ,he purged the generals
3) support of intelligences services- no.The recent leaks in turkey proved that intelligence services are not working properly or are involved in sabotaging erdogan's rule.

And erdogan has become increasingly paranoid. Plus another massive bonus ,there is a wahabbi army operating in turkey's borders.

Syria though militarily weak has all three elements, Turkey though strong lacks these elements.

FYI, my father was in Intelligence Bureau.

 

[xenon54 out]

1) support of people -low
2)support of military-lol ,he purged the generals
3) support of intelligences services- no.The recent leaks in turkey proved that intelligence services are not working properly or are involved in sabotaging erdogan's rule.

1)Only because Erdogan doesnt get 95% of votes like Assad

doesnt mean he has low support, actually he has half of the country behind him allready, not to meantion that 99% will support him against foreign terrorists. You dont know Turks if you really think that we will support foreign terrorists just to overthrow our goverment, do you know what happened to the terrorists who killed a civilian a cop and a soldier, they almost got lynched only police could save them.

2)Turkish military did and will take any measures to protect our Nation against any foreign threat, no doubt about that.
3)It was not the Intelligence who leaked the tapes, it was Gülens people who infiltrated govermental institution since a decade but its Erdogans own fault nonetheless since he tolerated it, the intelligence on the other hand is fully under Erdogans control.

And erdogan has become increasingly paranoid. Plus another massive bonus ,there is a wahabbi army operating in turkey's borders.

The wahhabi army is operating and threatening Turkey since last year but they couldnt do a shit, our army could even walk straight throught their checkpoint while they was just recording it, they knew every attack on that convoy would mean a massive artillery and airstrikes against them.

I have yet to see SAA doing the same.

FYI, my father was in Intelligence Bureau.

That doesnt mean you inherited his knowledge.

 

[sovcomflot]

Only because Erdogan doesnt get 95% of votes like Assad doesnt mean he has low support, actually he has half of the country behind him allready, not to meantion that 99% will support him against foreign terrorists. You dont know Turks if you really think that they will support Arab terrorists just to overthrow their goverment, do you know what happened to the terrorists who killed a civilian a cop and a soldier, they almost got lynched only police could save them.

Doesn't matter. CIA can effectively do a coup or a rebellion . And assad initially had 55% support in his nation,when this muslim brotherhood started the mess. Now its 80%. And plus Erodagan tries banning twitter and youtube,proves he getting paranoid.

Turkish military did and will take any measures to protect our Nation against any foreign threat, no doubt about that.

Again this is a rant. Whenever generals are mass purged ,it indicates severe distrust in military forces or possible treason or coup possiblity .Again a sign of state paranoia.

was not the Intelligence who leaked the tapes, it was Gülens people who infiltrated govermental institution since a decade but its Erdogans own fault nonetheless since he tolerated it, the intelligence is fully under Erdogans control.

Thanks for proving my point,that Erdogan's intelligence services are compromised .Which is an added advantage should the CIA or the wahabbis decide to start a war.

The wahhabi army is operating and threatening Turkey since last year but they couldnt do a shit, our army could even walk straight throught their checkpoint while they was just recording it, they knew every attack on that convoy would mean a massive artillery and airstrikes against them.

I have yet to see SAA doing the same.

Actually, your video proves another point .that turkey and the wahabbi militias are working together against syria. But knowing how the wahabbis are ,it won't be long before they turn against turkey.

 

[xenon54 out]

Doesn't matter. CIA can effectively do a coup or a rebellion . And assad initially had 55% support in his nation,when this muslim brotherhood started the mess. Now its 80%. And plus Erodagan tries banning twitter and youtube,proves he getting paranoid.

CIA did coups before in Turkey but times have changed they dont have the might anymore to do other coups, besides you were saying wahhabis will do a coup in Turkey before now your saying CIA, seems like you are confused.

Again this is a rant. Whenever generals are mass purged ,it indicates severe distrust in military forces or possible treason or coup possiblity .Again a sign of state paranoia.

Ofcourse Erdogan was paranoid about military but how is this connected to Syrian sivil war?

Thanks for proving my point,that Erdogan's intelligence services are compromised .Which is an added advantage should the CIA or the wahabbis decide to start a war.

Like i said CIA doesnt have the might to do another coup anymore, besides they are happy with Erdogan since he always agrees with US on important strategic moves in ME such as NATO Missile Shield for exsample.
And whabbis are not capable to do any coup in Turkey their influence is zero.

Actually, your video proves another point .that turkey and the wahabbi militias are working together against syria. But knowing how the wahabbis are ,it won't be long before they turn against turkey.

Seems like you you have no clue about ISIS, let me give you a crash course about them, Isis is Turkeys enemy they allready attacked us and we attacked them, a couple months ago they threatened to attack the Tomb of Suleyman Shah which is a sovereign exclave of Turkey inside Syria. Thats why the conwoy was on the way there to support our troops directly throught ISIS checkpoint, ISIS couldnt do anything because the tomb is just 30 km away from the border and heavy artillery on the border and Airforce was ready for a counter-attack.
One of the leaked tapes included a plan for looking an excuse to attack ISIS, that proved how serious Turkey was about ISIS thread.

 

[sovcomflot]

CIA did coups before in Turkey but times have changed they dont have the might anymore to do other coups, besides you were saying wahhabis will do a coup in Turkey before now your saying CIA, seems like you are confused.



Ofcourse Erdogan was paranoid about military but how is this connected to Syrian sivil war?



Like i said CIA doesnt have the might to do another coup anymore, besides they are happy with Erdogan since he always agrees with US on important strategic moves in ME such as NATO Missile Shield for exsample.
And whabbis are not capable to do any coup in Turkey their influence is zero.



Seems like you you have no clue about ISIS, let me give you a crash course about them, Isis is Turkeys enemy they allready attacked us and we attacked them, a couple months ago they threatened to attack the Tomb of Suleyman Shah which is a sovereign exclave of Turkey inside Syria. Thats why the conwoy was on the way there to support our troops directly throught ISIS checkpoint, ISIS couldnt do anything because the tomb is just 30 km away from the border and heavy artillery on the border and Airforce was ready for a counter-attack.
One of the leaked tapes included a plan for looking an excuse to attack ISIS, that proved how serious Turkey was about ISIS thread.

Spare me of your ignorance or your lies

ISIS activities in Turkey confirmed by Governor's report
ANF - ANKARA05.05.2014 14:30:30
A reported submitted by Hatay Governor Celalettin Lekesiz to the Interior Ministry confirms that Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) gangs from Syria use Turkey like a back yard. The Hatay Governor complains in his report of increasing ISIS activity and requests that preventive measures be taken.

It has been no secret for quite some time that Turkey is providing support to armed groups in Syria. It recently emerged that gangs that receive shelter, arms and financial and intelligence backing from Turkey for their attacks on Kurds, were supported in their attack on the predominantly Armenian town of Kasab. It was reported that the Al Qaeda affiliated groups gained access to the town via Turkey.

They pass from Turkey into Syria

According to the Bugün newspaper, the Governor of Hatay has informed the Interior Ministry of how the ISIS members enter Turkey with ease and then return to Syria. The governor's report describes how foreign fighters cross into Syria from the villages of Bükülmez, Kuşaklı and Beşaslan in the district of Reyhanlı, the village of Hacıpaşa in Altınözü district and the village of Güveçci in Yayladağı district with the help of smugglers.

The report adds that intelligence has been received regarding ISIS members in the conflict zones of Syria carrying out abductions, actions with vehicle bombs and attacks on border units in the Hatay province of Turkey.

All ISIS movements are monitored, but...

The report indicates that the Turkish security services are closely monitoring ISIS activities in Turkey. The report states: "ISIS operatives began to assemble in the town of Darkush in March, going by bus to the Zurzur area on 14 March. 300 metres from the village of Kolcular at the closest point to the Turkish border a group of around 150 stayed the night in a two-story villa. On 15 March they crossed into Turkey in groups of 45-50 at 4 separate points. They were met here by a person by the name of Abu Bara and taken to the Kent Hotel in Reyhanlı at around 6 am on the same day. It was learned that a group of around 100 subsequently left on the same day in two coaches heading towards Kilis on the way to the Rakka area of Syria. The remaining 45 persons were arrested by police at around 5 pm that day in Reyhanlı. These arrests created a negative atmosphere amongst the group, which decided to carry out actions against Turkey."

It is not known whether those arrested were subsequently remanded in custody or released.

The report sent by Celalettin Lekesiz to the Interior Ministry contains details of from which countries those joining ISIS came from and how they crossed into Syria. "They arrive in Istanbul by plane from their countries, making contact with local collaborators before going by plane and road to Şanlıurfa, Kilis, Gaziantep or Hatay. These persons are then taken illegally in small groups into Syria by smugglers."

Those joining ISIS are described in the report as being from France, Britain, rarely Germany, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt and Iraq. Apart from those from Iran, Iraq, Lebanon and Egypt those joining ISIS pass through Turkey on the way to Syria. The report continues:

"These persons coming to our country possess telephone numbers of people who will put them in contact with those who will facilitate their entry into Syria. They use things such as WhatsApp and Skype and carry laptops or smart phones."

They are not being stopped

While there is no mention in the report of measures taken to prevent the activities of ISIS, there is the following proposal: "Let us adopt the policy of the USA following 11 September and prevent the illegal crossing of foreign jihadists into Syria."

This is an admission that Turkey has not done anything to prevent ISIS members crossing the border.

The Governor concludes his report with the following belated analysis: "It is considered that in the event of ISIS, which poses a serious threat to our country, establishing itself and gaining power in the border areas, Turkey, which in their opinion does not live according to Islamic rules, would become a target. In these circumstances it is highly likely that their attention would turn to Turkey."
ISIS activities in Turkey confirmed by Governor's report | ANF

and nowadays CIA is running this wahabbi freakshow.

@Irfan Baloch @vostok

 

[-SINAN-]

simple.There are a lot of terrorist camps and shelters operational in Turkey with hundreds of thousands of wahabbis for training to fight in syria. The chess pieces are in place. CIA or Saudi arabia just needs to bribe intelligence officials and the floodgates will open.

Okay, just show me one.

 

[Falcon29]

Okay, just show me one.

You gotta love the 'hundreds of thousands' in supposed remote villages on the Turkey-Syria border that he pulled out of his rear...

 

[sovcomflot]

Okay, just show me one.

ISIS activities in Turkey confirmed by Governor's report
ANF - ANKARA05.05.2014 14:30:30
A reported submitted by Hatay Governor Celalettin Lekesiz to the Interior Ministry confirms that Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) gangs from Syria use Turkey like a back yard. The Hatay Governor complains in his report of increasing ISIS activity and requests that preventive measures be taken.

It has been no secret for quite some time that Turkey is providing support to armed groups in Syria. It recently emerged that gangs that receive shelter, arms and financial and intelligence backing from Turkey for their attacks on Kurds, were supported in their attack on the predominantly Armenian town of Kasab. It was reported that the Al Qaeda affiliated groups gained access to the town via Turkey.

They pass from Turkey into Syria

According to the Bugün newspaper, the Governor of Hatay has informed the Interior Ministry of how the ISIS members enter Turkey with ease and then return to Syria. The governor's report describes how foreign fighters cross into Syria from the villages of Bükülmez, Kuşaklı and Beşaslan in the district of Reyhanlı, the village of Hacıpaşa in Altınözü district and the village of Güveçci in Yayladağı district with the help of smugglers.

The report adds that intelligence has been received regarding ISIS members in the conflict zones of Syria carrying out abductions, actions with vehicle bombs and attacks on border units in the Hatay province of Turkey.

All ISIS movements are monitored, but...

The report indicates that the Turkish security services are closely monitoring ISIS activities in Turkey. The report states: "ISIS operatives began to assemble in the town of Darkush in March, going by bus to the Zurzur area on 14 March. 300 metres from the village of Kolcular at the closest point to the Turkish border a group of around 150 stayed the night in a two-story villa. On 15 March they crossed into Turkey in groups of 45-50 at 4 separate points. They were met here by a person by the name of Abu Bara and taken to the Kent Hotel in Reyhanlı at around 6 am on the same day. It was learned that a group of around 100 subsequently left on the same day in two coaches heading towards Kilis on the way to the Rakka area of Syria. The remaining 45 persons were arrested by police at around 5 pm that day in Reyhanlı. These arrests created a negative atmosphere amongst the group, which decided to carry out actions against Turkey."

It is not known whether those arrested were subsequently remanded in custody or released.

The report sent by Celalettin Lekesiz to the Interior Ministry contains details of from which countries those joining ISIS came from and how they crossed into Syria. "They arrive in Istanbul by plane from their countries, making contact with local collaborators before going by plane and road to Şanlıurfa, Kilis, Gaziantep or Hatay. These persons are then taken illegally in small groups into Syria by smugglers."

Those joining ISIS are described in the report as being from France, Britain, rarely Germany, Iran, Lebanon, Egypt and Iraq. Apart from those from Iran, Iraq, Lebanon and Egypt those joining ISIS pass through Turkey on the way to Syria. The report continues:

"These persons coming to our country possess telephone numbers of people who will put them in contact with those who will facilitate their entry into Syria. They use things such as WhatsApp and Skype and carry laptops or smart phones."

They are not being stopped

While there is no mention in the report of measures taken to prevent the activities of ISIS, there is the following proposal: "Let us adopt the policy of the USA following 11 September and prevent the illegal crossing of foreign jihadists into Syria."

This is an admission that Turkey has not done anything to prevent ISIS members crossing the border.

The Governor concludes his report with the following belated analysis: "It is considered that in the event of ISIS, which poses a serious threat to our country, establishing itself and gaining power in the border areas, Turkey, which in their opinion does not live according to Islamic rules, would become a target. In these circumstances it is highly likely that their attention would turn to Turkey."
ISIS activities in Turkey confirmed by Governor's report | ANF

You gotta love the 'hundreds of thousands' in supposed remote villages on the Turkey-Syria border that he pulled out of his rear...

sure,says the palestinian chap who has kicked out by israel.

 

[-SINAN-]

sure,says the palestinian chap who has kicked out by israel.

Yeah show source from PKK's website.... very smart off you. There are no-camps of whatsoever in Turkey. You guys just google and post trash here, nothing more.

You have no source, no evidence, no footage, no sattelite images. nothing........just lies and propaganda, nothing more.

 

[xenon54 out]

Yeah show source from PKK's website.... very smart off you. There are no-camps of whatsoever in Turkey. You guys just google and post trash here, nothing more.

You have no source, no evidence, no footage, no sattelite images. nothing........just lies and propaganda, nothing more.

But a pkk source is probably the most credible source regarding Turkey, i mean all the attack and threatenings of ISIS on Turkey, Turkish strike on ISIS convoy and the leaked tape about how our state is looking for an excuse to attack them doesnt prove anything if pkk sources proves othervise.
*sarcasm off*

 

[-SINAN-]

But a pkk source is probably the most credible source regarding Turkey, i mean all the attack and threatenings of ISIS on Turkey, Turkish strike on ISIS convoy and the leaked tape about how our state is looking for an excuse to attack them doesnt prove anything if pkk sources proves othervise.
*sarcasm off*

They are idiots, they accuse Turkey for every bad development in their region.

 

[Falcon29]

They are idiots, they accuse Turkey for every bad development in their region.

One of the FSA leaders came out of my city. There's no such thing as ISIS presence in Turkey. They came from Iraq. Most rebels are from Syria. ISIS is just one group out of the many.