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Al Qaeda's Turkish base?

The target of stray bullets and shells coming from Syria, the small Turkish border town of Ceylanpinar has also turned into a hub for Islamist militants - allegedly backed by Ankara.

Al Qaeda's Turkish base? | World | DW.DE | 18.09.2013

Allegedly,so no official statement?

 

[Bahoz]

Why i'am not surprised that he didn't mentioned Kurdish uprisings and PKK terror organization.



You know peace process is about to end.

No, because every time I mention it, you get a phobia and start a campaign to get me banned. So I will just leave it be. My allegiance to PKK is no secret and I do not intend to hide it, but since it is a taboo to be PKK supporter on these boards, I will rather try to portray to you why there is an organisation like PKK ( you would realise if you watch the video and read the article about Hatip Dicle).

There never really was a peace process. Just AKP winning time. But PKK gave it a chance and that has seriously damaged Tukey's efforts to portray it as a ''bloodthirsty'' and primitive organisation. They have not launched any attacks for almost a year now and have tried every possible way to deal with the Kurdish question in a political manner. How do you explain that? Is that the typical sign of a bloodthirsty organisation dear Sinan? Is that the typical sign of a ''terrorist'' organisation?

I think most of people missing one point. I mean people not living in Turkey. Yes we have millions of Kurdish people in Turkey. They are part of us. PKK have a legal party in Turkey and they are getting votes max 5 or 6 points. Plus more then 50.000 armed Kurdish villagers againist PKK. We had Kurdish prime ministers which i voted too. And in most of the other countries nations isolated from others. I think because of Empire background famillies mixed together in Turkey. I have Kurdish relatives too. And we didnt have any problem in our life and we will not. 5 percent againist 95 percent thats the reality.

I think this basically sums it up. Listen, universal human rights are not meassured in the amount of votes a political party can get. If Turks in Germany ( who only number some 2-3 million) can get state sponsored education in their own language, how come Kurds ( who number 15-20 million) not get the same in Turkey?

There is a reason it is called universal human rights.

 

[Bahoz]

Yzd Khalifa@

Please get your facts straight. Kurds never used Syria as a launching path to attack the Turkish military. Even today where Kurds in Syria are at the peak of their strength, they have not shot a single bullet against Turkish soldiers. This illusion and fantasy that Kurds host a natural animosity against Turks is just plain Turkish propaganda.

Not only on Turkish soil, but Kurdish insurgency used Syrian and Iraqi soil to attack Turkey, but they miserably failed. A few years ago Turkey bombed them in Iraq, and hunted them down in Syria.

 

[farhan_9909]

isnt sorani the language of turkish people?
There is a town in bannu,Khyber pakhtunkhwa named Surrani,As the Local people say the place and the people are named surrani only because they are the migrated Kurds and since than they named the town surrani after the language sorani they used to speak.

But now they call themselves pashtun.

 

[Bahoz]

isnt sorani the language of turkish people?
There is a town in bannu,Khyber pakhtunkhwa named Surrani,As the Local people say the place and the people are named surrani only because they are the migrated Kurds and since than they named the town surrani after the language sorani they used to speak.

But now they call themselves pashtun.

I think you mean it is the language of the Kurdish people. Yes it is, it is one of the dialects.

Many people who call themselves Pashtuns and Balochs are Kurds who fled to Pakistan and Eastern Iran. The Baloch and Kurdish language is very similar, and Kurdish and Pashto also share many similarities.

 

[-SINAN-]

No, because every time I mention it, you get a phobia and start a campaign to get me banned. So I will just leave it be. My allegiance to PKK is no secret and I do not intend to hide it, but since it is a taboo to be PKK supporter on these boards, I will rather try to portray to you why there is an organisation like PKK ( you would realise if you watch the video and read the article about Hatip Dicle).

Irreverent to my post.

There never really was a peace process. Just AKP winning time. But PKK gave it a chance and that has seriously damaged Tukey's efforts to portray it as a ''bloodthirsty'' and primitive organisation. They have not launched any attacks for almost a year now and have tried every possible way to deal with the Kurdish question in a political manner. How do you explain that? Is that the typical sign of a bloodthirsty organisation dear Sinan? Is that the typical sign of a ''terrorist'' organisation?

You are a supporter of baby-killers and i won't go in meaningless discussion with you. But i'm not going to let you to spread black propaganda in any sevtion in PDF.

 

[farhan_9909]

I think you mean it is the language of the Kurdish people. Yes it is, it is one of the dialects.

Many people who call themselves Pashtuns and Balochs are Kurds who fled to Pakistan and Eastern Iran. The Baloch and Kurdish language is very similar, and Kurdish and Pashto also share many similarities.

ooops my bad i meant to right kurdish not turkish language..

The people or sorani/surrani now call themselves as pashtun and consider to be one of the banusi pashtun when infact their pashto dialect is quite different from the other pashtuns and even the true Banusi pashtun.Surrani by distance is just 50km from afghanistan border(Ghulam khan border between pak-afghanistan)

Bannuchi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Bahoz]

Irreverent to my post.



You are a supporter of baby-killers and i won't go in meaningless discussion with you. But i'm not going to let you to spread black propaganda in any sevtion in PDF.

Why did you have to bring up PKK in this discussion? Is that really all you can do? Try to explain the extreme state suppression Turkey has committed against all ethnic minorities. Just once. Without mentioning PKK. It is simply too easy for you to brush away everything by shouting ''PKK!''. This is not Turkey, things are not that easy.

ooops my bad i meant to right kurdish not turkish language..

The people or sorani/surrani now call themselves as pashtun and consider to be one of the banusi pashtun when infact their pashto dialect is quite different from the other pashtuns and even the true Banusi pashtun.Surrani by distance is just 50km from afghanistan border(Ghulam khan border between pak-afghanistan)

Bannuchi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, do you think they might have mixed Sorani Kurdish with the original Pashto and created their own type of Pashto? It would not surprise me since the languages already resemble each other in many ways.

 

[farhan_9909]

So, do you think they might have mixed Sorani Kurdish with the original Pashto and created their own type of Pashto? It would not surprise me since the languages already resemble each other in many ways.

Indeed.I am a pashtun aswell but from wazir tribe.but my mother is surrani.hence i know almost 80% of surrani(the pashto mixed surrani)

The difference i see in wazirwol pashto and their surrani pashto is

if i say what is your name

in Wazirwola=Naam OR nama de sa day?
In Surrani/banusi=Naw tu sa day?

so the language is different and sometime hard for an average pashtun to understand.I can easily get it since half of my relatives are surrani,banusi

 

[Bahoz]

Indeed.I am a pashtun aswell but from wazir tribe.but my mother is surrani.hence i know almost 80% of surrani(the pashto mixed surrani)

The difference i see in wazirwol pashto and their surrani pashto is

if i say what is your name

in Wazirwola=Naam OR nama de sa day?
In Surrani/banusi=Naw tu sa day?

so the language is different and sometime hard for an average pashtun to understand.I can easily get it since half of my relatives are surrani,banusi

Yup, your second sentence is almost identical to how we say it. I would easily understand what you were trying to implicate if you asked me '' Naw tu sa day''.

That is really interesting actually. So you might actually have Kurdish roots somewhere back?

 

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