Turkey & Iran and Iran and Arabs (The Political Differences)

[Alienoz_TR]

Armenians are Iranic peoples thats why Iran-Armenia are freinds/allies i have the most respect for that freindship because of religious differences.

Believe it is not ethnic issue. But let's not reveal everything openly.

 

[Gold1010]

Believe it is not ethnic issue. But let's not reveal everything openly.

No i mean Iran is close with Armenia because there both iranic peoples which is why Iran has a dislike of Azerbaijan because Azerbaijan and Armenia dont like each other.

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

Persians are a really people that deserve to be hated, arrogant, full of inferiority complex. If it comes to that, Arabs are better. Persians on the other hand...

But whatever, could not care less. Once Southern Azerbaijan are free, we could be done with those "Ayrans".

LOL then I suppose you must feel great knowing your ancestors fought and died for Iran

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What does Aryan even mean?

Aryans means to be from Iran zamin, places like Iran,takistan and so on.
according to the oldest aryan inscribtion in behistoon, Aryans means to be from Iran or persia as it was knows then.

so retards say Aryans don't exists but historic facts say otherwise, I dont get why so many people try and steal our culture and say they're Aryans lol you're only Aryan of you're from Iran zamin. Also Iran means land of Aryans.

 

[Alienoz_TR]

LOL then I suppose you must feel great knowing your ancestors fought and died for Iran

When looking at history there are no clear borders where the Persians are enemies and where Persians are friends.

For example Nizam el Mulk was a wazir at Seljuk court. At that time there was common goal. Persians were friendly neighbors.

Then there came Sunni Shia split. Kurds stood in Anatolia, while Azerbaijanis emigrated to Iran.

 

[ASQ-1918]

Can anyone put better picture about Azerbaijan's relation with Turkey and Iran. Because Azeri are arch-rivals of Armenians like Turkey and both are Turkic people but at the same time Azeris are Shias like Iranians and Iran has huge population of Azeris and Iran has very normal relation with Armenia.

Can someone elaborate the details about balancing these contradictions.

Shia part should not confuse you.

Iran and Persians converted to Shia faith under Azerbaijani dynasty called Safavids. We are not Shia because of Persians, but vice-versa.

If you mean current relations, Azerbaijan are secular, something Mollah government of Iran dislikes, and Azeri Turk population are received by Iran as a threat to it's security, I.E that Azeri Turks would want to separate one day (many already have that wish) and join independent Azerbaijan Republic, not something that would "unite" the 2 countries.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Shia part should not confuse you.

Iran and Persians converted to Shia fiath under Azerbaijani dynasty called Safavids. We are not Shia because of Persians, but vice-versa.

The Azeri Government was encouraging Shia Azeri's to become sunni's no doubt due to Iran meddling in Azerbaijan is a result of that.

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

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The Azeri Government was encouraging Shia Azeri's to become sunni's no doubt due to Iran meddling in Azerbaijan is a result of that.

LOL azeriz are shia and they have a choice to convert or not...persian people dont care what they do its up to them....
Iran's leaders are not Iran...

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Mostly the Gulf Arabs have a problem with Iran Arabs from Egypt(my home country), Libya, Jordan we have no problems with Iran however Due to the Arab Dictators treating the shia's unfairly it's pushing them to Iran so I think we should treat our shia's Better, Iran can go whichever way it like doesn't matter, as for Turkey they have their own agenda so let them purse it.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

I dont hate Turks ,azerbaijanis, but that guy redbeard call persians snake and i replied, I am sorry for offending anyone. lets have nice chats instead of swearing at one another.

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LOL azeriz are shia and they have a choice to convert or not...persian people dont care what they do its up to them....
Iran's leaders are not Iran...

If you don't care why reply to my post ?

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is truth hurting you...crawl underneath a rock if you dont want to face the truth...

What truth the mughals( muslims) ruled you

 

[nalandapride]

according to the oldest aryan inscribtion in behistoon, Aryans means to be from Iran or persia as it was knows then.

so retards say Aryans don't exists but historic facts say otherwise, I dont get why so many people try and steal our culture and say they're Aryans lol you're only Aryan of you're from Iran zamin. Also Iran means land of Aryans.

During ancient times, India was also known as Aryavarta and in Sanskrit Arya means noble, in many Sanskrit word like Hey Arya!! or Aryaputra(son of Arya) is commonly used. Root word "Aryan" still used in Sanskrit language while framing sentence word Arya is used.

 

[nalandapride]

Shia part should not confuse you.

Iran and Persians converted to Shia faith under Azerbaijani dynasty called Safavids. We are not Shia because of Persians, but vice-versa.

If you mean current relations, Azerbaijan are secular, something Mollah government of Iran dislikes, and Azeri Turk population are received by Iran as a threat to it's security, I.E that Azeri Turks would want to separate one day (many already have that wish) and join independent Azerbaijan Republic, not something that would "unite" the 2 countries.

Yes, I know Safavids were Azeris.

 

[ASQ-1918]

The Azeri Government was encouraging Shia Azeri's to become sunni's no doubt due to Iran meddling in Azerbaijan is a result of that.

Is that supposed to be a serious post?

"The Azeri Government" like all Azeri Turks are Shia.

 

[FriendOfPakistan]

Caucasian Albania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Albania is a name for the historical region of the eastern Caucasus, that existed on the territory of present-day republic of Azerbaijan.

During the reign of Roman emperor Hadrian (117-138) Albania was invaded by the Alans, an Iranian nomadic group.I

In 628, during the Third Perso-Turkic War, the Khazars invaded Albania, according to Peter Golden, "steady pressure from Turkic nomads was typical of the Khazar era, although there are no unambiguous references to permanent settlements.

Under Achaemenid, Parthian and especially Sassanid influence, Zoroastrianism also grew in the region. Christianity started to spread in the late 4th century in the Sassanid era. The Arab conquest and the Chalcedonian crisis led to severe disintegration of the Church of Caucasian Albania. Starting from the 8th century, much of the local population converted to Islam

These Islamised groups would later be known as Lezgins and Tsakhurs or mix with the Turkic and Iranian population to form present-day Azeris, whereas those that remained Christian were gradually absorbed by Armenians.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Is that supposed to be a serious post?

"The Azeri Government" like all Azeri Turks are Shia. Morover, Azerbaijan Republic are strictly secular and such religious activies are strictly forbidden, I mean things like converting or extremist side of the religion.

Sunnis, or should I say wahabis are actually a source of problem for Azerbaijan, as much as the Iranian mollahs.

Azerbaijan fears Iran Influence on the shia's so it want closer ties with Sunni Turkey, Sunni wahabi are two different things, Wahabis are mainly in saudi arabia unless that means turkey is wahabi as well due to being majority sunni.

http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=4468

 

[Alienoz_TR]

is truth hurting you...crawl underneath a rock if you dont want to face the truth...

What's the truth? Being ruled by Muslims, or having Muslim minority.

You are mixing human behavior with religious tendencies.

It may sound strange to you. Let me explain. The settled people of ancient age were peaceful due to their non warrior like life style. They were planting crops and harvesting. There I mean Indians.

But Turks and Arabs were living in harsh environment. That made them to fight for survival. In order to live they had to conquer and raid.

Now you are mixing two different things together. Have you seen the mistake you made.