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Turkey has demanded $183 million worth of services from U.S. aircraft maker Boeing as compensation for the late delivery of airborne early-warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft, a defense undersecretary official has said.

The Turkish Defense Ministry has requested an increase in the start-up support period from an initially planned two years to five years, as well as three years of software maintenance service and close to $32 million in spare parts, in return for canceling the $183 million delay penalty and accumulated interest, said Cemal Evci, a project director at the Undersecretary for Defense Industries (SSM).

He said the Boeing contract had been valued at $1.385 billion but that there had been a $59 million reduction, as some of the requirements were not met. He also noted Turkey had paid $637 million to Boeing in advance.

Under a July 23, 2003, contract, Boeing was to develop and deliver four AEW&C aircraft to the Turkish Air Force by 2008.

However, the first of the aircraft slated for deployment along the country’s Syrian border could only be delivered recently.

The AEW&C aircraft had arrived in Turkey for acceptance tests at the end of January and tests are to be followed by an inauguration ceremony Feb. 21 in the Central Anatolian province of Konya.

Last year, Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz had said Turkey would impose sanctions on Boeing for the delays, and the supplier and buyer parties have been attempting to reach a consensus over the cause for the delays for some time.

Some officials had said there were disagreements over whether the delays stemmed entirely from the company’s shortcomings, or whether they were due to extra features that Ankara demanded be installed on the aircraft.

In yesterday’s remarks, Evci said “technological difficulties in developing some of the high-quality features demanded by Turkey” led to the six-year delay.

The program involved the delivery of the 737-700 airframes, ground radars and control systems, ground control segments for mission crew training, mission support and maintenance support.

The 737-700 aircraft are to be used as part of Turkey’s NATO capabilities. An AEW&C system is an airborne radar system designed to detect aircraft, ships and vehicles at long ranges, and control and command the battle space in an air engagement by directing fighter and attack aircraft strikes.

Used at a high altitude, the radars on the aircraft allow the operators to distinguish between friendly and hostile aircraft hundreds of miles away.

BUSINESS - Turkey imposes $183 million penalty on Boeing over delivery delay
 
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I'm not a fan of the F35 but there is no alternative and they know it,thats why we have to accept it.
Penalty clause need to be present in the contract to avail and there is no such thing with F35 since its in development phase and US will not promise any deadline but just the tentative ones.
 
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They should have been delivered in 2008, 6 years ago.

IMO, lately US hadn't been a reliable partner for us. 7 years of delay is not acceptable. We should remove Boeing from our supplier list.

For starters, we should select Airbus A330 MRTT instead of Boeing KC767 for our new tanker aircraft.
 
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IMO, lately US hadn't been a reliable partner for us. 7 years of delay is not acceptable. We should remove Boeing from our supplier list.

For starters, we should select Airbus A330 MRTT instead of Boeing KC767 for our new tanker aircraft.

Not just Boeing, Turkey should reconsider the whole US as a trustworthy supplier. God knows what these guys might do again when we do something that doesnt suit them, like the Cyprus sanctions. The day Turkey reaches militarily independence by being able to produce and innovate our own stuff, will be one of the happiest days in my life.
 
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Not just Boeing, Turkey should reconsider the whole US as a trustworthy supplier. God knows what these guys might do again when we do something that doesnt suit them, like the Cyprus sanctions. The day Turkey reaches militarily independence by being able to produce and innovate our own stuff, will be one of the happiest days in my life.
Thats why we need engine developement because without it,we will allways be dependent on others.
 
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Seems there was some issue with Israel supplying Turkey with some parts:
Electronic Weapons: Turkey Quietly Gets Its AWACS

We don't really care and neither does international law. Turkey ordered these planes from Boeing and does not care which subcontractors Boeing uses. If their subcontractor is refusing to meet their obligations, it's Boeing's problem not Turkey's.

http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-1000732675

I am quoting the article here:
"Defense News" writes that "If Elta cannot deliver the remaining systems for the Turkish program, industry sources here said Boeing may seek alternate suppliers for South Korea and other customers of the 737-based AEW&C aircraft."
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US defense sources said that beyond immediate commercial and legal repercussions for Elta, the freeze on deliveries to Boeing carries grave, long-term implications for the future of US-Israeli defense trade.

A former Israeli defense official told "Defense News" that the case, if not resolved promptly, threatens to hamper a high priority US-Turkish program with operational implications for NATO. He said that it might also impede Boeing's ability to perform as required under its $1.6 billion contract with Turkey and discourage other US firms from entering into strategic international cooperation with Israeli suppliers.
 
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We don't really care and neither does international law. Turkey ordered these planes from Boeing and does not care which subcontractors Boeing uses.

I'm not saying Boeing is not to blame. I'm saying it wasn't some US conspiracy to screw Turkey. As some people were alluding US contracts weren't "dependable".

Turkey wanted to use 737's but the US uses 707's and some 767's. Only Elta of Israel makes a Wedgetail system that fits on 737's. Unfortunately Israel started a military ban to Turkey after the deal was signed and Boeing got caught in the middle.
 
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