Turkey faces big losses as Russia sanctions bite

[xenon54 out]

Wow.....i can understand Serpi....but Hazzy ??? Ain't Kediciks are Haram for him ???

He said he became agnostic but i dont know though.

 

[-SINAN-]

Turks and Japanese have very similar beginnings, and apex, my friend. Civilization-wise, we are a fusion of many races, ethnic groups. Japanese, like Turks, originally came from mainland Asia , and migrated east and west, respectively. Turks migrated West, whereas we Japanese went east into the islands.

We both absorved civilization cues and culture from neighboring powers; Japan absorbed much from China and to an extent Korea, whereas Turks absorbed much from Abbasid Caliphate, Arab, Persian and Greek culture. Then we made it into our own. We both have very militaristic characteristics; Japan was at war with itself for almost half a millenia in the Sengoku Jidai; thereby perfected its killing culture. Ottoman Empire was the conqueror of 10 directions, subduing the entire middle east and threatening even the heart of Europa.

I suppose Japanese and Turks have a migratory nature, adaptive focus, and a taste for...militarism. hehehe.

Turks and Japanese can be peaceful, naturally, but when we go to war, we can be a bit too 'brutal' on our enemies, yes? lol.

Hımm, I have hunch that if we go on more like this we can piss of people. But i agree with you my friend.

He said he became agnostic but i dont know though.

Agnostic...like the way we know "agnostic".....he must have joked.

 

[Aepsilons]

Hımm, I have hunch that if we go on more like this we can piss of people. But i agree with you my friend.

To the eternal friendship of Japanese and Turkish people, brother ! Long shall we cherish our Altaic bonds

 

[xenon54 out]

Hımm, I have hunch that if we go on more like this we can piss of people. But i agree with you my friend.

Probably already happened, espacially for Turks it doesnt need much to get people pissed against us, even for things we arent really responsible for.

 

[TheTruth]

Turks and Japanese can be peaceful, naturally, but when we go to war, we can be a bit too 'brutal' on our enemies, yes? lol.

There you go bragging about your supposed "brutality" again. Keep in mind, we can kill every single one of you any day we feel like it. Just like we could for hundreds of years, only we didn't. lol.

 

[Aepsilons]

Probably already happened, espacially for Turks it doesnt need much to get people pissed against us, even for things we arent really responsible for.

Well we can't please everyone , bro , lol.

There you go bragging about your supposed "brutality" again. Keep in mind, we can kill every single one of you any day we feel like it. Just like we could for hundreds of years, only we didn't. lol.

 

[TurAr]

We're not Turkey - we have a real economy, not based on sending whores and toilet cleaners to Germany No one was speaking to you, third worlder.

We may have disagreements with China, but if the Japanese get out of hand all of Japan's neighbors will get together and mop up after 90% of Japanese are killed in nuclear fire.

@Irfan Baloch Thanks in advance.

 

[TheTruth]

@Irfan Baloch Thanks in advance.

Not going to report Sinan's post, eh, little boy?

Guess the truth hurts more than lies.

 

[-SINAN-]

We're not Turkey - we have a real economy,

Yeah, half of Turkey. And you can't do chit to Japan. Empty talks, empty threats as always. You should know your place

 

[mike2000 is back]

LOL Both countries are the biggest loser from this standoff. But Russia stands to lose even more than Turkey, since its already under western sanctions and its economy has been contracting ever since. Even Turkey/Indonesia will soon catch up with Russia economically(GDP wise) 3 years from now at the rate it's economy is shrinking(as of 2015 it's projected to be $1.2 trillion from $1.8 trillion in 2014 as shown below) . So Putin better come back to his senses ASAP.

GDP Ranking 2014

1 United States 17,419,000
2 China 10,354,832
3 Japan 4,601,461
4 Germany 3,868,291
5 United Kingdom 2,988,893
6 France 2,829,192
7 Brazil 2,346,076
8 Italy 2,141,161
9 India 2,048,517
10 Russian Federation 1,860,598
11 Canada 1,785,387
12 Australia 1,454,675
13 Korea, Rep. 1,410,383
14 Spain 1,381,342
15 Mexico 1,294,690
16 Indonesia 888,538
17 Netherlands 879,319
18 Turkey 798,429
19 Saudi Arabia 746,249
20 Switzerland 701,037

http://databank.worldbank.org/data/download/GDP.pdf

 

[Djinn]

Not talking any sides, downing of the Russian jet was utterly unnecessary. Hope that Turkey will realize that confrontation with Russia wont bear any positive results and will sincerely make amends.

 

[sEoulman556]

hahaha, to be honest i think @sEoulman556 just gets very emotional when it involves Japan, and for me i really have no dislike or disapproval of South Korea, but it seems that from my interaction with Korean nationalists , whenever they interact with Japanese patriots, the thought of the war and history results in their blood to boil. And its understandable since Korea, for a long time, had ceased to exist and was part of the Japanese Empire and divided into Japanese provinces. In fact their people were even forced to adopt Japanese names and take up Japanese identity , and it was almost forbidden for them to even be proud of their Korean identity. So I can understand the Korean animosity and antagonism towards Japan, it is understandable.

However i think relations between @sEoulman556 and I have recently somewhat improved since we were able to discuss with civility and respect in the thread "Korean Sejong the Great Destroyer" with relative decorum. I'm trying to be better with him and to try to understand his point of view, even excusing his emotional responses to me most of the time. I do honestly want to build more rapport with him since he seems to know a lot about Korean military and high tech information. And he seems to be a good guy from how i see how he interacts with Indonesian, Turkish, Pakistani, Indian and even Russian and American members.

So yea, bro, hopefully Mr. @sEoulman556 will be more amicable with me, too.

Find that article yet that supports your BS claims about that multilateral air defense shield? Or do you want to label me as "emotional" since you can't find it?

From now on, don't post what you can't support.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Find that article yet that supports your BS claims about that multilateral air defense shield? Or do you want to label me as "emotional" since you can't find it?

From now on, don't post what you can't support.

WWow....so we have a Korean member on this site? Never knew that. Welcome mate.

 

[Aepsilons]

Find that article yet that supports your BS claims about that multilateral air defense shield? Or do you want to label me as "emotional" since you can't find it?

From now on, don't post what you can't support.

Japan’s vice foreign minister, Akitaka Saiki, left, and the South Korean diplomat Cho Tae-yong, in Seoul. The two nations agreed to share military information about North Korea.​

"Successive South Korean administrations, including President Park Geun-hye, have resisted joining a comprehensive allied program. In June 2012, Seoul canceled at the last moment the scheduled signing with Japan of a bilateral General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA), which would have enabled exchanging intelligence on North Korea’s nuclear and missile programs.

The agreement would have provided Seoul with access to information collected by Japan’s high-tech intelligence satellites, Aegis ships, and early-warning and anti-submarine aircraft, thus improving South Korean defense against North Korean missiles. But lingering South Korean animosities stemming from Japan’s occupation of the Korean Peninsula in the 20th century forced Seoul to cancel the agreement. In December 2014, a modified version of the agreement was signed which allows voluntary passing of intelligence about North Korean ballistic missile and nuclear activities between Japan and South Korea through the U.S. Department of Defense."
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Reference: South Korea Needs THAAD Missile Defense

Reference: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/30/world/asia/japan-south-korea-north-intelligence.html?_r=0​

Find that article yet that supports your BS claims about that multilateral air defense shield? Or do you want to label me as "emotional" since you can't find it?

From now on, don't post what you can't support.

Then 4 months later, this developed:

Officials said the meeting was held to enhance trilateral defense cooperation in light of the evolving security environment in the region.


Yoo Jeh-seung, South Korea’s deputy minister for policy, led his country’s delegation. David B. Shear, assistant secretary of defense for Asian and Pacific security affairs, led the U.S. delegation, and Japan’s delegation was led by Tokuchi Hideshi, vice defense minister for international affairs.
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Retrieved from:
U.S., Japan, South Korea Hold Trilateral Security Talks > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Article View

Find that article yet that supports your BS claims about that multilateral air defense shield? Or do you want to label me as "emotional" since you can't find it?

From now on, don't post what you can't support.

Anyways, since i've posted literally over 20,000 academic-related data in this forum, ive also posted , literally, thousands of articles relating to East Asian integrationist-related articles and threads of such nature. I'll provide you a link on the paradigm of JMSDF and ROKN cooperation. Enjoy the read.

Destined to Cooperate: Japan-South Korea Naval Relations

 

[oprih]

Lmao, turkey is being hit hard, I'm truly amazed that our turkish brothers in this forum have spare cash to pay for electricity bills.