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Turkey Dumps Israeli UAVs for Local Drones - Which Keep Crashing

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In an attempt to bolster its leadership role in the Arab world, Turkey has recently done almost everything it could to alienate Israel, to the extent that neither currently has an ambassador in the other's country. Turkey also decided to cut off all government-based business deals with Israel – ending a formerly substantial trade in military equipment, including, according to Defense News, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs); according to the publication, Turkey purchased 10 Heron UAVs from Israel Aircraft Industries in 2010. No more such purchases are likely.

But as relations continued to worsen with Israel – and as Turkey decided that the time was ripe for it to take a regional leadership role – Ankara has decided to produce as many of its own weapons as possible, including UAVs. So Turkey, according to Defense News, made a strategic decision to ground its Israeli UAVs and produce its own version of the pilotless patrol planes. And following the government's directive, Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) promptly designed and produced a home-grown Turkish UAV – the Anka, which the government hoped would fulfill Turkey's needs for UAVs; perhaps Ankara would even be able to develop an industry around the craft.

Only one problem, though; so far, every prototype Anka that TAI has produced has crashed.

On paper, the Anka is impressive. It was envisioned as a medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) aircraft, capable of carrying more than 200 kilos for a full day, at an altitude of up to 30,000 feet. But in the field, the Ankas are pretty useless, Defense News says. The first test version, produced last December, flew for 14 minutes before falling from the sky. Subsequent versions have shown slight improvement, and in May, the Anka managed to stay aloft for 90 minutes before smashing to smithereens, and the third prototype, flown in September, flew for nearly two hours before crashing.

The problem, apparently, is an engineering one. Turkey's Hurriyet Daily News quoted a Turkish analyst as saying that wind shear was upsetting the balance of the plane's wings on landing. As the plane's dual landing gears are too close to each other, the plane tends to tip over as it lands, and the landing takes place on one of the wings – guaranteeing a crash. A government official acknowledged the problem, saying “we will definitely resolve this problem and definitely make the Anka operable. In the future, the Anka definitely will become the most useful asset in fighting terrorism.”

However, the Anka may not have much of a future. At a meeting on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly last month, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan met with U.S. President Barack H. Obama, who promised to supply Turkey with advanced Predator drones - the MQ-1 Predator used for surveillance, and the MQ-9 Reaper, use for attacks. Both are in extensive use in Iraq, and Turkey has sought to purchase them for several years. Hurriyet reports that the number of drones to be sold to Turkey is not known, but they are likely to be “used,” being sent over from Iraq as the United States continues to withdraw troops.

While the Predator deal will satisfy Turkey's needs for drones, it will crimp the new regional superpower's style – since use of the drones will be limited to conditions that the U.S. sets down, which means that Turkey will likely be unable to use them to attack Kurdish rebels, for which most of its weaponry has been deployed recently. In addition, the drones are likely to be based at the U.S. military base in Incirlik, further limiting the freedom with which Turkey can deploy the drones. And while there are no such conditions on Turkey's IAI Herons, Ankara is determined not to use them, if at all possible – in order to distance itself from Israel. As a result, Turkey has no choice but to keep pouring money into is Anka program, officials said – and one way or another, they said, they were determined to succeed.

Turkey UAVs Just Won't Fly Right - Defense/Security - News - Israel National News
 
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and whos saying that the one who lost the business. Sweet. Am I suppose to believe them now.
 
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"Israel National News"

"falling from the sky"

so lets educate you ! todays lesson is about What is a prototype !



its not hard even for you!

at least you may try to google it!

Functional Prototype (Model) (also called a working prototype): will, to the greatest extent practical, attempt to simulate the final design, aesthetics, materials and functionality of the intended design. The construction of a fully working full-scale prototype and the ultimate test of concept, is the engineers' final check for design flaws and allows last-minute improvements to be made before larger production runs are ordered.
 
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Source is isreal national news agency so its authenticity is questionable . even if its true it doesn't matter soon they will solve the problem ishallah
 
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Well its probably grounded due to future lack of parts so they decided not to depend on these , keep them in storage

Turkey can probably make far better UAV of their own
 
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wish they wouldnt use the phrase "regional superpower" ....
 
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wish they wouldnt use the phrase "regional superpower" ....

Sounds horrible in my ears as well.

However I hope they'll solve the landing issue with the ANKA, because even though we're renting the drones from the US, it's best to gain insight and knowledge in this field and be independant. Because it's a really nice tech when combatting terrorists that are supported by foreign powers, and yes I am saying that PKK and PJAK are receiving support from the foreign powers who got stakes in the ME.
 
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sarcasm, attempt on sarcasm and whatever just ends up getting the wrong or unintended reaction, please refrain from being sarcastic or at least put it in parentese so people can see your intention.
 
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hi everyone;

i need to say that the drones are not crushing they are crush landing according to turkish forums and the problem is fixed.
turkish
uav program is going according to expected time table. I accept that Israel defense industries are more experienced in UAV building but don't underestimate the engineering capacities of turkish people tai and aselsan. And turkish army has a very specific requirements and testing procedures if they can not passed the test which are written in the paper mentioned in first post we all
gone learn. Turkey tries to buy USA built uav because the after US withdrawal from Iraq turkey no longer will get the real time intelligence and simply Turkey needs to fill the gap until turkish uav are operational also turkey needs more time for
weaponized uav. Also we need to keep in mind the geography of
the Turkey is so large and terrain consist of large mountains and hard weather conditions. Because of this facts turkey requires
high number of uav just for surveillance and has to create its own uav just for economic reasons. I also need to mention in many respected turkish forums the israel builts heron uav performances considered as far from satisfying turkish military needs.

regards...
 
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Auto take-off/Landing is great to minimize user mistakes. "Before the end of 2012, Armed ANKA tests will be performed; there is also SGINT and SATCOM payload to be fitted in 2012."
 
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