Turkey declares support to Bharat’s permanent membership at UNSC & President Erdogan said he would be ‘proud’ to have India as part of UNSC.

[HAIDER]

Actually Pakistan can support India too, if India is willing to pay.

Everyone knows that China has the right of veto.

It is better for Pak to keep hanging with China and give them room inside Pak foreign policy. Otherwise, everyone is pushing each other in a black hole. But never Pakistan should never trust any Muslim countries when it comes to foreign policy. Strictly stay in the region.

 

[Taskforce]

same how **** choose for China instead of Uighurs. Sometimes business is business. I fully support this move to include India.

 

[nahtanbob]

Well, Turkey will apply as the first Muslim country for the permanent seat and if India becomes a member the may help them out. But the damage is done, India already killed a Canadian national on Canadian soil plus a person member of the Candian govt insider.

Turkey is too small and has too many peer rivals to ever become UN Security Council member

Partly agreed. But out of all the Muslim countries, Turkey and Azerbaijan showed a great degree of loyalty.

However Turkey's white-washed class are quite vocal on the Internet with their nonsensical rants against Pakistanis.

I recently explained to one on Quora who claimed he wants Pakistanis out of his country and Pakistanis should go somewhere else for tourism and business when I told him the reasons.

I explained to him without foreign consumers buying tickets on Turkish airlines, booking at Turkish hotels, investing in local bank bonds, local properties, Turkey has no economic boom.

When COVID struck, their tourism industry nearly collapsed. Their airline industry was also nearly killed off.

Turks like those tick me off, thinking their money falls on their country from the sky rather than the hard earned money of foreigners including Pakistanis who bring it into their country.

Then there's also Kemalist Turks who keep calling us a "Shariah state." I knew one of these Turks and he hated Pakistanis. Damn do they annoy me with their insecurities.

The only reason I don't go off at all of them is because plenty of Turks have acknowledged Pakistan's support.

But otherwise I tell you screw this Ummah nonsense. We should be ready to support China in any crackdown of Uyghur terror groups who dare to come to our country.

I do not know if you are deaf or dumb. No one want Pakistani economic migrants especially lower skilled ones. The only exception are the Gulf Arabs.

 

[dBSPL]

This is not about India. It is about abolishing or reforming the structure, mostly about permanent membership of the UNSC so that it does not become a tool for the political strategies of any country.

So, it will be ironic that China will be the defender of the world order established by the victors of the world war who colonized the whole world.

On the contrary, China should think in a broader perspective. It must read the rising dissatisfaction and readiness for action in the rest of the world correctly. Brazil, the Republic of South Africa are other foremost countries that are openly expressing their views on this issue, and the number will snowball. It is not about India, but as long as China or others see this seat as a political power in their hands, the UN's viability will continue to atrophy and erode.

Russia has a much more consistent position. Lavrov is consistently earning points for the Russian foreign policy by making clear his demand for reforms on this issue.

The Brazil, South Africa and India trilateral initiative has a draft that is gaining considerable support. This draft proposal calls for an increase in the number of Security Council members. They argue that representatives from Africa, Asia and Latin America should have permanent seats on the council. At this point, Brazil and India are lobbying for a permanent seat, while South Africa has a 1 seat rotating approach on behalf of the continent.

On the other hand, the model officially advocated by Turkiye is a further step towards an expanded, all-regional rotating structure that takes into account the diversity of religious and cultural factors. And the slogan they use - the world is bigger than five -

The existing structure is completely dysfunctional. It is a tool of 5 countries for political bickering and their recklessness deeply affects the peoples of the world. This post-modern system of exploitation must change. Before too late...

Don't you want India to get a permanent seat? Then support TR's approach and that of many similar countries. Abolish permanent seats altogether. But do not become a defender of the existing order. Try to be one step ahead, not one step behind.

 

[etylo]

This is not about India. It is about abolishing or reforming the structure, mostly about permanent membership of the UNSC so that it does not become a tool for the political strategies of any country.

So, it will be ironic that China will be the defender of the world order established by the victors of the world war who colonized the whole world.

On the contrary, China should think in a broader perspective. It must read the rising dissatisfaction and readiness for action in the rest of the world correctly. Brazil, the Republic of South Africa are other foremost countries that are openly expressing their views on this issue, and the number will snowball. It is not about India, but as long as China or others see this seat as a political power in their hands, the UN's viability will continue to atrophy and erode.

Russia has a much more consistent position. Lavrov is consistently earning points for the Russian foreign policy by making clear his demand for reforms on this issue.

The Brazil, South Africa and India trilateral initiative has a draft that is gaining considerable support. This draft proposal calls for an increase in the number of Security Council members. They argue that representatives from Africa, Asia and Latin America should have permanent seats on the council. At this point, Brazil and India are lobbying for a permanent seat, while South Africa has a 1 seat rotating approach on behalf of the continent.

On the other hand, the model officially advocated by Turkiye is a further step towards an expanded, all-regional rotating structure that takes into account the diversity of religious and cultural factors. And the slogan they use - the world is bigger than five -

The existing structure is completely dysfunctional. It is a tool of 5 countries for political bickering and their recklessness deeply affects the peoples of the world. This post-modern system of exploitation must change. Before too late...

Don't you want India to get a permanent seat? Then support TR's approach and that of many similar countries. Abolish permanent seats altogether. But do not become a defender of the existing order. Try to be one step ahead, not one step behind.

Its not against the globe south aspiration. India doesn't equal to globe south. It's just India sees and treats China as its sworn enemy, India will act against China's interest if admitted to UNSC every time. China is not going to be totally selfless and disregard its interest and let India or Japan in to undermine China. Besides, what has India significantly contributed to world peace ? Its a real world.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Its not against the globe south aspiration. Its just India sees and treats China as its sworn enemy, India will act against Chinas intetest if admitted in UNSC every time. China is not going to be totally selfishless and disregard its interest and let India or Japan in to undermine China. Besides, what has India significantly contributed to world peace ? Its a real world.

Indeed, China will never allow India or Japan in United Nations Security Council.
That is something too pretigious to give to any nation.

 

[etylo]

Indeed, China will never allow India or Japan in United Nations Security Council.
That is something too pretigious to give to any nation.

It's more than just pure prestige, it's real interest. Both India and Japan will line up almost always with their master US against China if admitted to UNSC and that situation is definitely not acceptable to China.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

It's more than just pure prestige, it's real interest. Both India and Japan will lined up almost always with their master US against China if admitted to UNSC and that situation is definitely not acceptable to China.

Exactly China will never let India and Japan in UNSC.

Same with USA will never let Germany in UNSC.

 

[beijingwalker]

US wants to stack UNSC with its lackeys, China will never let it happen.