Turkey considers Russian Su-57, Chinese J-31 jets to replace F-35s - Yeni Şafak

[Oublious]

Never, we don’t sell to back stabbers



If you have modernizations, you would never go for f16 in the first place

You are not only a troll but the same time dumb chinese member, we are upgrading our own F16 fleet stupid dumb numb troll. Every fighter have to be upgraded you is eat noodles?

 

[StormBreaker]

* F-16 achieved dozens air to air victories. Su-35 - none.
* F-16 has excellent air to ground capabilities, proven in tens of thousands strikes. Su-35 air to ground capabilities are extremely limited (no targeting pods).

Tbh, we all judge an aircraft on papers until they get practical, but SU-35 is truly in a league of its own as compared to F-16.
Rest all flankers are shit

Yeni Şafak and Aydınlık are doing their best to bring the Turkish people closer to China and Russia. Ironically, these two newspapers are actually, representing two different ends ideologically.



The only way

Are you guys really in talks for SU-35 yet ?
Any official confirmation ?

 

[lonelyman]

You are not only a troll but the same time dumb chinese member, we are upgrading our own F16 fleet stupid dumb numb troll. Every fighter have to be upgraded you is eat noodles?

bullshit talk, yourself is typical chest thumping Turk troll.
why u begging for f-35 and kneel before Trump
Or kneel before Putin for other fighters

 

[dBSPL]

Tbh, we all judge an aircraft on papers until they get practical, but SU-35 is truly in a league of its own as compared to F-16.
Rest all flankers are shit


Are you guys really in talks for SU-35 yet ?
Any official confirmation ?

All of this news comes from Russia. Last year there were lots of statement that they were open to many collaborations, both at Rosoboronexport and at company level. Turkey have rapidly growing(in terms of visibility) Neo-Euroasian ( and even pro BRI ) circles which are they try to use all of this for theirs agenda. Moreover, on different ideological wings. Therefore, such statements are evaluated with little more manipulated forms.

On the other hand, Erdogan's close friendship with Putin is no secret. However, both technically and economically, such a ready purchase is not sustainable. Do I need to go into details? Such a step could result in a disaster for the TAF. Therefore, it is not the priority of the army. More likely Z plan. What I'm talking about doesn't include Turkish and Russian companies could starting a original project. In the past, for example, such cooperation between Italy and Russia took place.

BUT, there are also serious problems with the JSF program. ALIS is one of them. In accordance with future projections, Turkey will not want to US logistical system((and the doctrinal framework)) at this level. As you know, many paradigms regarding the air force will undergo changes in the coming period. The main combat element of future air forces is that fighter jets will actually be a fully integrated and network-centric flying sensor fusions with allied elements. Turkey will either make to NATO accept its dedicated field or go back to the pre-1950 period.

 

[Oublious]

bullshit talk, yourself is typical chest thumping Turk troll.
why u begging for f-35 and kneel before Trump
Or kneel before Putin for other fighters

you is kneel before putin fighters, you make fighters suckss and give putin blowjobb..

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-stealth-fighter-jet/articleshow/68666095.cms

 

[MMM-E]

Su-35 is no better than F-16 which Turkey already has.

Erdogan destroyed Turkish air force for an icecream.

Yes F-16s with the US-Israel backed FETO pilots are better to bomb Turkish people , Turkish police , parliament , etc

F-35 is useless and waste money for the Turkish Airforce against Israel , even against Greece
without American permission Turkish F-35s even can not take off


I prefer to buy more 4 batteries S400 Air Defense Systems for $2,5 billion
and to spend $7,5 billion for developing the TF-X national 5th gen Fighter Jet until 2030 , instead of buying 100 useless F-35s for $10 billion until 2030

-- S-400 , HISAR and SIPER Air Defense Systems can protect Turkish airspace against Fighter Jets and Strategic Bombers
-- 7 TF-2000 class air warfare Destroyers until 2030 can block Eastern Mediterranean against Fighter Jets
-- Turkish Airforce has 230 F-16s armed with AIM-120C7 air to air missiles for BVR combat and HARM , SLAM-ER , SOM missiles for SEAD role
-- Turkey develops AKINCI UCAV , HURJET Fighter Jet and MIUS - GOKSUNGUR supersonic UCAVs wich will carry SOM Cruise Missile to engage on Greece,Egypt,Israel in the region


even Turkey doesnt need F-35s to hit targets in Greece,Egypt,Israel

Turkey develops air-land-naval based Missiles SOM , BORA , ATMACA , GEZGIN


Russia can not attack NATO member Turkey
230 F-16s are enough for Iranian Airforce

 

[lonelyman]

you is kneel before putin fighters, you make fighters suckss and give putin blowjobb..

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-stealth-fighter-jet/articleshow/68666095.cms

you gave so much blow job and your *** and ur brain is so fucked dead

for Russians it’s the other way around, they try to sell it to us

 

[Oublious]

you gave so much blow job and your *** and ur brain is so fucked dead

for Russians it’s the other way around, they try to sell it to us

you is make trash and give putin ***...

 

[lonelyman]

you is make trash and give

Putin fucked u so hard that u are brain dead and beg for more

 

[Oublious]

Putin fucked u so hard that u are brain dead and beg for more

You is watch **** movies?

 

[500]

Yes F-16s with the US-Israel backed FETO pilots are better to bomb Turkish people , Turkish police , parliament , etc

F-35 is useless and waste money for the Turkish Airforce against Israel , even against Greece
without American permission Turkish F-35s even can not take off


I prefer to buy more 4 batteries S400 Air Defense Systems for $2,5 billion
and to spend $7,5 billion for developing the TF-X national 5th gen Fighter Jet until 2030 , instead of buying 100 useless F-35s for $10 billion until 2030

-- S-400 , HISAR and SIPER Air Defense Systems can protect Turkish airspace against Fighter Jets and Strategic Bombers
-- 7 TF-2000 class air warfare Destroyers until 2030 can block Eastern Mediterranean against Fighter Jets
-- Turkish Airforce has 230 F-16s armed with AIM-120C7 air to air missiles for BVR combat and HARM , SLAM-ER , SOM missiles for SEAD role
-- Turkey develops AKINCI UCAV , HURJET Fighter Jet and MIUS - GOKSUNGUR supersonic UCAVs wich will carry SOM Cruise Missile to engage on Greece,Egypt,Israel in the region


even Turkey doesnt need F-35s to hit targets in Greece,Egypt,Israel

Turkey develops air-land-naval based Missiles SOM , BORA , ATMACA , GEZGIN


Russia can not attack NATO member Turkey
230 F-16s are enough for Iranian Airforce

Under Erdogan Turkey became a joke.

* Putin literally burned down dozens of Turkish villages in Latakia together with their inhabitants and Erdogan in response gave to Putin 2.5 billion $.

* Even Assadists are shelling and bombing Turkish posts and Erdoghan afraid to respond.

Now instead of 5 gen fighters u will get what Putin allows u to take and follow all his orders.

 

[MMM-E]

Under Erdogan Turkey became a joke.

ERDOGAN makes Turkey great again

in 2002 Turkish GDP $230 billion
in 2013 Turkish GDP $860 billion

and since 2013 Turkey and Turkish economy under attack by the US ,Israel and their terrorists PKK/YPG , FETO and ISIS

Turkish currency dropped by 330% between 2013 and 2019
if not , Turkey would have min $1,5 trillion of GDP now


in 2002 Turkish military projects around 20
in 2020 Turkish military projects around 700

and Turkish Army is in Iraq , Syria , Cyprus , Qatar , Somali , Libya
Turkish Navy is in the Eastern Mediterranean to protect national interests

therefore the US and Israel attack ERDOGAN since 2013 .. You need puppet leader as like SISI , HAFTAR , MBS

Putin literally burned down dozens of Turkish villages in Latakia together with their inhabitants and Erdogan in response gave to Putin 2.5 billion $.

after the US backed failed military coup attempt against ERDOGAN , Russia and Turkey have started working together in Syria

ERDOGAN and PUTIN are not stupid to fight each others

-- Turkish Construction companies built modern Russia for over $75 billion
-- every year over 6 million Russian tourists comes to Turkey for holiday
-- over 50% of Turkey's gas import comes from Russia
-- Russia invest $22 billion to build Turkey's first Nuclear Power Plant
-- and S400 is game changer weapon to give Turkey military advantage in the Eastern Mediterranean

even Russians built the first ammunition , textile, petrochemical, aluminum, steel factories in Turkey


on the other hand since 2013 evangelist-zionist American Senate , CIA and PENTAGON attack on Turkey for Israeli interests

American Senate blocked sale of UCAV to Turkey
RESULT : Turkey was become one of the top countries with the US , Israel and China in UCAV technology
( Bayraktar TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI ..also soon GOKSUNGUR and MIUS supersonic UCAVs )

sooner or later Turkey will develop its own the TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet and HISAR-SIPER-GUMS Air Defense Systems


We dont need useless F-35 and PATRIOT

what a joke .. the US said to Turkey that you can not use PATRIOT Air Defense System in Aegean and Mediterranean ... on the other hand Turkey can use S400 everywhere

and I am saying again without American permission Turkish F-35s even can not take off

but Israel easly can use F-35s against the US's so called NATO ally Turkey

 

[500]

ERDOGAN makes Turkey great again

in 2002 Turkish GDP $230 billion
in 2013 Turkish GDP $860 billion

and since 2013 Turkey and Turkish economy under attack by the US ,Israel and their terrorists PKK/YPG , FETO and ISIS

Turkish currency dropped by 330% between 2013 and 2019
if not , Turkey would have min $1,5 trillion of GDP now


in 2002 Turkish military projects around 20
in 2020 Turkish military projects around 700

and Turkish Army is in Iraq , Syria , Cyprus , Qatar , Somali , Libya
Turkish Navy is in the Eastern Mediterranean to protect national interests

therefore the US and Israel attack ERDOGAN since 2013 .. You need puppet leader as like SISI , HAFTAR , MBS





after the US backed failed military coup attempt against ERDOGAN , Russia and Turkey have started working together in Syria

ERDOGAN and PUTIN are not stupid to fight each others

-- Turkish Construction companies built modern Russia for over $75 billion
-- every year over 6 million Russian tourists comes to Turkey for holiday
-- over 50% of Turkey's gas import comes from Russia
-- Russia invest $22 billion to build Turkey's first Nuclear Power Plant
-- and S400 is game changer weapon to give Turkey military advantage in the Eastern Mediterranean

even Russians built the first ammunition , textile, petrochemical, aluminum, steel factories in Turkey


on the other hand since 2013 evangelist-zionist American Senate , CIA and PENTAGON attack on Turkey for Israeli interests

American Senate blocked sale of UCAV to Turkey
RESULT : Turkey was become one of the top countries with the US , Israel and China in UCAV technology
( Bayraktar TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI ..also soon GOKSUNGUR and MIUS supersonic UCAVs )

sooner or later Turkey will develop its own the TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet and HISAR-SIPER-GUMS Air Defense Systems


We dont need useless F-35 and PATRIOT

what a joke .. the US said to Turkey that you can not use PATRIOT Air Defense System in Aegean and Mediterranean ... on the other hand Turkey can use S400 everywhere

and I am saying again without American permission Turkish F-35s even can not take off

but Israel easly can use F-35s against the US's so called NATO ally Turkey

* Putin literally burned down dozens of Turkish villages in Latakia together with their inhabitants and Erdogan in response gave to Putin 2.5 billion $.

* Assad's joke army bombs Turkish posts and Erdogan afraid to respond.

So what all your super duper weapon projects worth, if you suck to rusty outdated Russian army and afraid to respond even against Assad barrel bomber clowns? - NOTHING.

As for GDP growth, Turkey is typical for East European region. Romania, Hungary, Poland... grew more than Turkey in same period of time.

 

[bsruzm]

You is watch **** movies?

Be careful, they may ban you instead lol

 

[MMM-E]

* Putin literally burned down dozens of Turkish villages in Latakia together with their inhabitants and Erdogan in response gave to Putin 2.5 billion $.

keep crying ... Israel wants to destroy good relationship between Turkey and Russia

ERDOGAN and PUTIN are not stupid to fight each others

and Erdogan did not give $2,5 billion to Putin
Erdogan bought game changer S400 Air Defense System ... thanks to Putin
on the other hand evangelist-zionist American Senate block sale of UCAV , PATRIOT Air Defense System and now F-35 to Turkey

btw the US backed Pkk/Ypg terrorists killed tens of thousands of innocent people in Turkey
so what ?

Assad's joke army bombs Turkish posts and Erdogan afraid to respond.

only in your dreams .....
We gave a good lesson to Assad's joke Army when they attacked
Turkish Army is in Idlib with 12 observation posts

As for GDP growth, Turkey is typical for East European region. Romania, Hungary, Poland... grew more than Turkey in same period of time.

in 2013 Turkey had bigger GDP Nominal than Romania+Hungary+Poland combined

I am saying again since 2013 Turkey and Turkish economy under attack by the US ,Israel and their terrorists PKK/YPG , FETO and ISIS

Turkish currency dropped by 330% between 2013 and 2019
if not , Turkey would have min $1,5 trillion of GDP now ... ( 12. or 13. biggest GDP in the world )

China , India , Turkey are the biggest growing economies in OECD between 2009 and 2013