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The end result would be a Pyrrhic Victory at best for the Muslims — based on interpretation of Hadith and its description of conflict. In my view and studies, hence I’m not to enthusiastic of the end of time conflict (it’ll be pointless) you can say the other side got tired of slaughtering us to the point we will never be a threat again and they’ll disengage.
Interesting. The Saints and Elders here have said that "the Russians will win,but there won't be anyone to clap for them". If I remember correctly,Saint Paisios had said that whoever takes part in that war (countries) they will be on the losing side. Meaning there will be great losses for all involved.

Elder Joseph of Vatopedi (+2009)

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His prophecies in short

1. Greece will carry out a surprise attack and start the war. In the beginning Turkey will take massive hits it will look as if Greeks gained the upperhand. After a while Turkey will mobilize and Greece will be obliterated. He said: “they will lose everything.”

2. There will be a big war between Russia and Europe. There will be massive destruction. Turkey will not be participate in this war will remain neutral because Europe excluded Turkey and probably by that time Turkey will be ousted from Nato. Many will realise then that this excluding was a blessing.

3. Russia will invade Istanbul. After 6 months of fighting they will be defeated.

4. Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi predicted the establishment of the Ottoman Empire 120 years before it was founded (i can be wrong on the 120 years) and even its collapse. He also predicted that the new state after the Ottoman Empire will be 120 times more powerful compared to Ottoman Empire.

If there is a Wali’ullah as Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi you have the best prophecy i believe him. Meanwhile no offense but the Orthodox prophecies seem unrealistic and biased.
 
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Turkey cannot make up their mind about picking sides
Turks are master and experts when it comes to diplomacy. That’s why Turks established 16 empires and many other powerful states throughout history.

Turks buy weapons from Russia, sell weapons to Ukraine meanwhile get credit from USA and EU.

This is superiour diplomacy and strategy.
 
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@PakFactor @Finer

His prophecies in short

1. Greece will carry out a surprise attack and start the war. In the beginning Turkey will take massive hits it will look as if Greeks gained the upperhand. After a while Turkey will mobilize and Greece will be obliterated. He said: “they will lose everything.”

2. There will be a big war between Russia and Europe. There will be massive destruction. Turkey will not be participate in this war will remain neutral because Europe excluded Turkey and probably by that time Turkey will be ousted from Nato. Many will realise then that this excluding was a blessing.

3. Russia will invade Istanbul. After 6 months of fighting they will be defeated.

4. Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi predicted the establishment of the Ottoman Empire 120 years before it was founded (i can be wrong on the 120 years) and even its collapse. He also predicted that the new state after the Ottoman Empire will be 120 times more powerful compared to Ottoman Empire.

If there is a Wali’ullah as Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi you have the best prophecy i believe him. Meanwhile no offense but the Orthodox prophecies seem unrealistic and biased.

Question as we see from @Foinikas they have there own Wali-Ullah type's do Turks believe in this still or its a tiny segment. I'm curious because in our continent we have a famous one Shah Naimat WaliUllah who predicted from British Rule to India splitting and waging approx. 4 wars -- in the last one Turks, Chinese are named as those who will come and assist Pakistan.

Also from Hadith we know that Muslims and 1 segment of Christians will align together to fight another Christian segment, after the conflict we will then fight them due to there treachery.

I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: you will make a secure peace with the Byzantines, then you and they will fight an enemy behind you, and you will be victorious, take booty, and be safe. You will then return and alight in a meadow with mounds and one of the Christians will raise the cross and say: The cross has conquered. One of the Muslims will become angry and smash it, and the Byzantines will act treacherously and prepare for the battle.

Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 2767
 
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All the Turkish religious leaders and historians, gov officials believe it. These matters are openly often discussed and viewed in the mainstream media.
 
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Turks are master and experts when it comes to diplomacy. That’s why Turks established 16 empires and many other powerful states throughout history.

Turks buy weapons from Russia, sell weapons to Ukraine meanwhile get credit from USA and EU.

This is superiour diplomacy and strategy.
Great good luck with this strategy as long as you have friends, good friends.
 
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Great good luck with this strategy as long as you have friends, good friends.
We don’t rely on anyone let alone so called friends. That’s just stories for children. When you’re in a strong position the whole world will pretend to be your friend.

Even enemies will not openly be hostile anymore they will wait for the right moment until you lose your strength to take you down.

hyena’s and jackals never attack a strong lion they wait until the lion is old and wounded.
 
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Actually,I don't know if you are familiar with Orthodox prophecies,but some of the Saints and Elders have said that when Turkey will attack Greece,Russia will fall on Turkey out of their own interests and destroy them.

Let me tag some other people here well who might be interested in this @Hassan Al-Somal @PakFactor

From what they say,the Turks will attack us and Saint Paisios had said that they will take 1-2 islands. There will be shelling between Greek and Turkish forces,they said there will be wounded greek soldiers but no dead. This will probably take a few days because the Russians will rush down to help us for some reason. From what they've said,the Turks will be fighting in other countries as well and they will take all the troops from there. They will also move all the troops from Cyprus and that's how the Greek Cypriots will retake the island. These were said back in the 80's and early to mid-90s when Turkey had no soldiers and interests in neighboring countries by the way.

After that,they said the Russians will absolutely defeat the Turks,prophecies dating to the Byzantine times mention "fire"

“...And the Blond race will possess the City of the Seven Hills for six or five, and herbs will be planted in her, and many will eat them in vengeance of the Saints, and three provident administrators will govern..." -Saint Methodios of Patara

Apparently,like Saint Paisios and some other Elders and Saints had said,the Americans and some European countries will rush to grab a piece of Turkey for themselves as well. The prophecies talk of a fierce battle in Constantinople and the area around it.


In a poem prophecy attributed to Elder Joseph of Vatopedi:

"In the Sea wherever a ship is found will none remain/ and from the blood the sea will become red.
The City will burn whole, and not even a trace will exist/ of a materialist man because much he has commited
Only the temple of the Lord’s Wisdom/ the Jewel of His Bride, His Holy Church.

Three days will the battle last/ and he who comes alive out of this will have great luck
18 Nations with great ferocity angered/ will be slaughtering without sense, bathed in blood."


In the prophecy of Saint Methodios of Patara:

"Then the nations sitting in the South corner will be disturbed, and Phillip the Great will rise with 18 tongues, and they will gather at Eptalofos and they will make such a war as has never been made. And they will run through the passages and lanes of Eptalofos, and the slaughter of men will be as a river moves, and the sea will be blurred from the blood to the depths of the abyss."

In a prophecy by an unanonymous prophet from 1053 A.D it says:

"Battle of seven states for Constantinople and slaughter for three days. Victory of the largest state over the six. Union of the six states against the seventh and slaughter for three days."

Saint Kosmas Aitolos had said:

«In Constantinople will spill so much blood that a 3 year-old calf would swim in it

«The Turks will go away, but will come back again and will arrive up to the Hexamilia (6-miles location). Finally you will drive them out into the “Red Apple tree”. From the Turks the 1/3 will be killed, the other third will be baptized, and only 1/3 will go to Red Apple Tree«

«They will pass filthy troops from the Esperia places of the West and they will ask: where is the City, is it near? Those who will say it is near they will not harm, those who will say it is far away they will kill

«The great battle will be in the City. There, all nations will gather, and so much blood will be spilled as for a calf to swim in. Winner will be the blond race. We will be with the blond race«.

Saint Paisios had explained Saint Kosmas' prophecy about the Examilia,as being the 6 nautical miles.

He also said that the Russians would give us Constantinople not because they love us,but as a solution to their problems.

He said that Constantinople will be ruled by Greeks,Russians and Europeans.

There's also this prophecy from the tomb of Saint Constantine the Great:

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Another one:

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And this one:

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This is what Turkey can expect if it isn't careful:-

The Tsar Bomba's fireball, about 8 km (5.0 mi) wide at its maximum, was prevented from touching the ground by the shock wave, but reached nearly 10.5 km (6.5 mi) in the sky – the altitude of the deploying bomber

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This is what Turkey can expect if it isn't careful:-

The Tsar Bomba's fireball, about 8 km (5.0 mi) wide at its maximum, was prevented from touching the ground by the shock wave, but reached nearly 10.5 km (6.5 mi) in the sky – the altitude of the deploying bomber

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We will see Imran Hossein fanboy. Turkey can develop these outdated wmd very easily if it decide to do it.
 
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@PakFactor @Finer

His prophecies in short

1. Greece will carry out a surprise attack and start the war. In the beginning Turkey will take massive hits it will look as if Greeks gained the upperhand. After a while Turkey will mobilize and Greece will be obliterated. He said: “they will lose everything.”

2. There will be a big war between Russia and Europe. There will be massive destruction. Turkey will not be participate in this war will remain neutral because Europe excluded Turkey and probably by that time Turkey will be ousted from Nato. Many will realise then that this excluding was a blessing.

3. Russia will invade Istanbul. After 6 months of fighting they will be defeated.

4. Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi predicted the establishment of the Ottoman Empire 120 years before it was founded (i can be wrong on the 120 years) and even its collapse. He also predicted that the new state after the Ottoman Empire will be 120 times more powerful compared to Ottoman Empire.

If there is a Wali’ullah as Muhyiddin Ibn Arabi you have the best prophecy i believe him. Meanwhile no offense but the Orthodox prophecies seem unrealistic and biased.
That's like our prophecies reversed

hyena’s and jackals never attack a strong lion they wait until the lion is old and wounded.
Funny because that's exactly Turkish foreign policy the last 60 years at least
 
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