Turkey asks for Pakistan's help in development of next Generation Fighter

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Ben sadece bir sey demek lazim:

YASASIN Turkiye-Pakistan dostlugu.....her zaman

Turkey is light-years behind those Iranian missile techology which can never find their way into your requirement.
As for Turkey not needing any country You people cannot even make an engine for your naval ship, never-mind for engines in fighter jets. Lets not forget how most of the systems you use in hardware like ANKA rely heavily on foreign imports, such as mission computers etc:

Curtiss-Wright To Supply Mission Computers For Turkish MALE UAS

ideally - Iranians and Turks would be cooperating together - especially when western imposed bullying/sanctions on Iran are lifted.....then it will be the zio-Nazis who need the burnol, not Mr. Nair over here.

by the way Turkiye is a NATO country afterall so they do have access to technologies that are integrated in many western systems...they have a very robust indigenous defense industry as well; Iran has done quite well too despite limitations and despite challenges. In both cases commendable.

 

[omega supremme]

We should get involve in this project as this aircraft is a fifth generation one and is mainly made for air to air combat something that will suit our Airforce as sooner or later when we shall be going for fifth generation aircrafts our F-16's maybe would be phasing out at that time TFX shall do the interceptor role and maybe we can use J-31 as more of a bomber just like turkey which is going to keep F-35 for bomber role and TFX for air to air combat and F-16 as third in line for multipurpose role

We can also have TFX as Air superiority aircraft , j-31 as bomber and jf-17 as a multipurpose aircraft

 

[Bilal.]

I have no Problem with that Pakistan is more advanced than Turkey.

They are my Brothers Even so far they love Turkish People more then their Neighbours or then even turkish People themselve.

As the old saying goes... A fruit bearing tree is bowed with modesty while a dry shrub is stiff with arrogance. That's something that the nation that suffers from acute narcissism en masse won't ever understand.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I have no Problem with that Pakistan is more advanced than Turkey.

They are my Brothers Even so far they love Turkish People more then their Neighbours or then even turkish People themselve.

The Turkish economy is more robust, the country is more politically stable (despite the day to day chaos and scandals, which we also have) - we also share many challenges....you are fighting Daesh and the PKK/PJAK terrorist groups and we are fighting tehreek e taleban/JeM/BLA etc. -- we have shared hostilities with certain regional neigbhours but we also have the Armed Forces which are the most disciplined, unifying, and celebrated institutions in our country. We have both lost many men in uniform fighting our enemies but our resolve and will to survive and progress and confront the challenges remain unquestioned.

Turkiye has supported Pakistan during its time of need, the Muslims of the South Asian sub-continent largely comprising Pakistan stood by the Ottoman Empire and later stood by the Turkish war of independence (before we even had our own).

It's a time-tested bond. One that I should not have to remind anyone about because everyone should know it already.

Regarding your last point - we love the Turkish people and will always stand by and support them through all channels. Your enemies are our enemies and vice versa.

SEREFE.....SAYGILAR!

 

[Oublious]

Unfortunately Pakistan can't give Turkey a single technologic help. So this is a fake news i think. Jf17 is licence product of China, the engine is from Russia. The avionics is not far advanced, who is making stories?

 

[madmusti]

Unfortunately Pakistan can't give Turkey a single technologic help. So this is a fake news i think. Jf17 is licence product of China, the engine is from Russia. The avionics is not far advanced, who is making stories?

Does Turkey has ever had a Russian technology or from China on his Hand ?

Look at South Korea they had develop from K1 aka XM1 and T80 the K2 Black Panther the most advanced Tank by combining the Strength of those Tanks or why you think they are going with a Autoloader now ?

 

[WaLeEdK2]

If true, then this is an excellent opportunity. We should hop right in.

 

[Oublious]

Does Turkey has ever had a Russian technology or from China on his Hand ?

Look at South Korea they had develop from K1 aka XM1 and T80 the K2 Black Panther the most advanced Tank by combining the Strength of those Tanks or why you think they are going with a Autoloader now ?

No, and countries like China and Russia won't allow Pakistan to share it with Turkey. So this is a fake news because of that. If they want a cooperation that is possible, Pakistan wil help Turkey develop with TFX? Come on, Jf 17 is licence product like our F16. Believe me we are 10 steps ahead.

 

[madmusti]

No, and countries like China and Russia won't allow Pakistan to share it with Turkey. So this is a fake news because of that. If they want a cooperation that is possible, Pakistan wil help Turkey develop with TFX? Come on, Jf 17 is licence product like our F16. Believe me we are 10 steps ahead.

Thats the Reason that Pakistan has it´s own Nukes of mass destruction ?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Some might remeber that i was saying this a year ago, Turkey can benefit from Pakistans JF Thunder experience and combine it with its own decades long F-16 license production experiences.

u should cross check this claim through yr turkish sources.

 

[BordoEnes]

Turkey is light-years behind those Iranian missile techology which can never find their way into your requirement.
As for Turkey not needing any country You people cannot even make an engine for your naval ship, never-mind for engines in fighter jets. Lets not forget how most of the systems you use in hardware like ANKA rely heavily on foreign imports, such as mission computers etc:

Curtiss-Wright To Supply Mission Computers For Turkish MALE UAS

Landing/Take-off mission computer can hardly be considered "relying on foreign imports". Main mission computer is still very much Turkish. Its a stop gap solution until a domestic MMW radar based one is developed. Contrary to Iran, Turkey has the capability to develop SAR, SATCOM, MMW Radar for UAV Platforms. There is no comparison between drone technology between Turkey and Iran, dont know why you brought that up in the first place.

 

[cabatli_53]

Landing/Take-off mission computer can hardly be considered "relying on foreign imports". Main mission computer is still very much Turkish. Its a stop gap solution until a domestic MMW radar based one is developed. Contrary to Iran, Turkey has the capability to develop SAR, SATCOM, MMW Radar for UAV Platforms. There is no comparison between drone technology between Turkey and Iran, dont know why you brought that up in the first place.

Bro, As long as you gave some response to Trolls, They will start destroying Turkish threads as a response. They don't have anything to share to you informative different than their blurry images and big mouths under the claims of %100 self reliance stories so You can't reach any goal If you want to make a conversation with an Iranian troll in any subject. They did it in previous days so Let them type but Whenever some of well known Iranian trolls open their mouths for trolling actions like "You can't even bla bla" sentences in Turkish threads, I will give negative ratings for each trolling actions until Mods keep them out of Turkey related subjects with banning or other precuations...

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

No, and countries like China and Russia won't allow Pakistan to share it with Turkey. So this is a fake news because of that. If they want a cooperation that is possible, Pakistan wil help Turkey develop with TFX? Come on, Jf 17 is licence product like our F16. Believe me we are 10 steps ahead.

You do make a valid point there, but we are not discussing exports or re-exports (as Turkiye as an end-user) of JF-17 Thunder. The Turks have absolutely no need for that aircraft when they are having a large fleet of modern standard F-16s and are soon to induct the F-35 (once it's actually completed)

The JF-17 Thunder is a rapidly developing platform with already proven capabilities and an array of weapons systems at its disposal but the Turks have no need to induct another multi role aircraft "just for the sake of it" --with new inductions of new systems comes logistical challenges that take time to iron out (which is why Pakistan has opted to not induct the FC-20/J-10 despite earlier prospects)

Discussions are about expanding cooperation in other areas (and i believe no just in manned or un-manned aviation). The title itself could be mis-leading, the article is not even very well-written. But there are always gains to be had between both countries (and not just in the field of defence/savunma)

 

[Shariq786]

I think when the PAF air chief said "we are looking for next gen jets in the east as well as the west" i think he meant turkey as the west i think we are being invited on the TFX program man i m so damn happy about it i want to see this news get confirmed right now and i m literally smilling with so much joy inside ............ put a turkish flag too LONG LIVE PAK-TURK friendship.......

 

[xenon54 out]

u should cross check this claim through yr turkish sources.

There are many things going on behind closed doors, some sources believe that Pakistan had a important role when Turkey got ballistic missile ToT from China in 90s.
Who knows whats being cooked at the very moment we are talking here.