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Turkey after 2023: What should be Pakistan’s Foreign Policy

Turkey will be another powerfull country with will power which unfortunately we lack as pakistan we hace nukes but cant use on dajal like israel its a will make you powerfull no weapon is more powerfull than human will



Why should we use nukes on Israel? They have killed 0 Pakistanis and we have killed 0 Israelis. They are not our enemies. If there's anyone we should use nukes against, it's the sikhs.
 
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keep dreaming dream is free
We have seen loser the US in Vietnam and Afghanistan
and loser the US spent trillions of dollars in the Middle East but Turkish Army entered Syria and kicked your dream

btw stupid OBAMA gave Iraq to Iran , gave Syria to Russia and Iran

US lose the battle in Vietnam but won the cold war. Vietnam and USA are allies against China

Iraq is independent state. it is no puppet of Iran

Eventually Syrians will kick out Russians and Iranians
 
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the old day of rulers are dead. Between the EU/NATO, Russia, Iran and Arabs Turkey has nowhere to go
There is a good reason Turkey has not given up their NATO membership



From google translate
Losers kompleskl of inferiority, other than Turkey and Turks, Ataturk died after you destroy the infamous ,, Turkey and Turkish are also the mindset of the criminal offense in America and has been slave to your English
You didn't even produce a rifle, you destroyed the producers.
Freaks with the hatred of ERDOGAN
hahahha you can not take back flying skills from eagles .. you talking about turks
 
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US lose the battle in Vietnam but won the cold war. Vietnam and USA are allies against China

Iraq is independent state. it is no puppet of Iran

Eventually Syrians will kick out Russians and Iranians


You are still dreaming ....

-- Iran control Iraq even over 100.000 Iran backed HASDI SHABI militans joined to Iraqi Army
-- Millions of Syrians were kicked out of Syria by Russia and Iran ,, You pray for Turkey because of Turkey saved 4 million Syrians in Idlib from Russia and Iran

Syrians have no right even to select their own leader ...
 
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I am more concerned about the immediate future where UAE,KSA are backing YPG against Turkey...how would Pakistan balance its relationship between the two???

you have thrown in your lot with KSA and UAE. You need their money, oil and employment for your poorly skilled workforce. what choice do you have ?

You are still dreaming ....

-- Iran control Iraq even over 100.000 Iran backed HASDI SHABI militans joined to Iraqi Army
-- Millions of Syrians were kicked out of Syria by Russia and Iran ,, You pray for Turkey because of Turkey saved 4 million Syrians in Idlib from Russia and Iran

Syrians have no right even to select their own leader ...

Russians occupied a lot of states in Eastern Europe. Right now they are history

Iran has influence in Iraq. If Iran controlled Iraq Americans troops would not be in Iraq.
USAF F-16s are still flying missions over Iraq

Syria is going to be a long story. Syrians cannot elect their leader. they can bloody the nose of the ruling elite with help from foreigners
 
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No body knows the future!!! But, based on the past and present, some projections may be made. One thing is clear though - both Turkey and Pak will get exponentially stronger in economic, military, social, global etc. terms....

They are the central powers of the Muslim world, and it is for a reason....
 
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you can not take back flying skills from eagles .. you talking about turks

Eagles ( Turks ) flies single
but Crows ( the EU ,Arabs,etc ) flies with herd


Russians occupied a lot of states in Eastern Europe. Right now they are history

Iran has influence in Iraq. If Iran controlled Iraq Americans troops would not be in Iraq.
USAF F-16s are still flying missions over Iraq

Syria is going to be a long story. Syrians cannot elect their leader. they can bloody the nose of the ruling elite with help from foreigners


-- Russia did not occupied Syria , Syrian regime called Russia .... and Russia and Syrian regime signed an agreement for 49 years , that means the Syrian government to allow Russia to keep its airbase in Syria for almost half a century

-- Iran has influence in Iraq because of the US and the UK destroyed Arab leader SADDAM and OBAMA gave Arabian state Iraq to Persians ( Iran )


Iran is in Iraq and Syria because of stupid OBAMA and now Israel is crying
 
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Everbody will see what will happen after 2023
Turkey has great potential and Turkey will start to use its own great potential after 2023
TURKS always were Global Power in history ,,, and TURKS will be Global Power again
We TURKS are not Greeks or Arabs or Persians to be slaves
What is wrong with you? Stop insulting other nation. So many turkish kids around these days. I apologize from Arabs and Persian instead of this boy!
 
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What is wrong with you? Stop insulting other nation. So many turkish kids around these days. I apologize from Arabs and Persian instead of this boy!

I am glad he is not representative of turish nation

Eagles ( Turks ) flies single
but Crows ( the EU ,Arabs,etc ) flies with herd

what makes you think being single is good for survival ?
 
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I've watched many YouTube videos and read many articles stating Turkey will expand its power after 2023, it will charge tax on the waters, will explore gas on its shores etc but it all a media hype.

Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Iran and others ...

We don't have time to linger. We should sleep less and work harder.


The metaphor of 2023 depends on motivational dynamics. It is the MHP that puts this concept first. Then, this concept was included in the AKP's party program.

It is aimed to overcome the industrial transformation and middle income trap, as a first milestone for emerging regional power. This is not symbolize the country would be a triumphant one morning when we woke up. However, the first milestone for the 2053-2071 visions was determined as the first close target.

The development of countries, their strengthening in global politics or reshaping their global positions for national interest is not something that you can decide by one day. It needs very long and strategic planning, even populist currents of countries should be used as tools for this purpose.
 
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Need to start by making a confederation of central asian Muslim states, starting from Kazakhstan to Pakistan.

Such a Muslim super state will become a model for GCC, Turkey & Maghreb to create such economically viable, militarily powerful superstates which can compete at an international level.

This is to undo the Muslim geography which was divided by Christian colonials.
This was the idea of Allama Iqbal...but even Pakistan is still divided.....
 
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Need to start by making a confederation of central asian Muslim states, starting from Kazakhstan to Pakistan.

Such a Muslim super state will become a model for GCC, Turkey & Maghreb to create such economically viable, militarily powerful superstates which can compete at an international level.

This is to undo the Muslim geography which was divided by Christian colonials.
Dear friend, the problem is that the Islamic world was shared by the dominant camps in the world. When the Ottoman state was destroyed, there was no dominant Islamic state in the world. When we founded the republic with the liberation struggle of Anatolia, some accused and humiliated us for abolishing the caliphate. But in 1923, 90% (or perhaps more) of the Islamic societies were in captivity or managed under a mandate administration by UK , France or Soviets.

Many of the greatest wars in the history of mankind have been experienced in the European continent. In the time of Napoleon, France reached up to the Russian territory and prevented the union of all the Germans in the region. The Germans entered Paris with tanks during the 3rd reich. These states, which have fought throughout history, have created a common development window as the EU and have succeeded in making their global interests compatible. In this way, were able to obtain a precise political domination of the both Russian and Turkey hinterland after fall of soviets. What could be the next stage? See after PESCO and then they started to talk common European army , and if Europe can take a decisive stance here, the NATO concept will undergo major changes.

I dont know why but we are fighting with each other in this forums or other areas. But none of the problems between us, as problematic as the historical background of a FRANCE-GERMANY.

Why can't we make it?

It is not a common state, but a weak confederative order ( like EU ) with a common global perspective, should be our first target.

For this reason, the D-8 initiative that emerged in the 90s but we could not remain stable behind., was a very important opportunity. We need such a large number of initiatives and collective capacity that will deepen our economic relations and dissolve our problems.
 
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Turkey will be another powerfull country with will power which unfortunately we lack as pakistan we hace nukes but cant use on dajal like israel its a will make you powerfull no weapon is more powerfull than human will
The reason for our hostility towards Israel is that we question the legitimacy of the state of Israel and the brutal policies of Israil against innocent Muslims and the Christian people. There are hundreds of thousands of Jews who do not adopt Israel's state policy, and we have no hostility towards these people.

From Spain to central Europe, when innocent Jews were expelled from their homes, when their property was confiscated, we embraced them. The massacres of Jews of Seferads are the shame of Europe. The genocide movement of the Germans is just one of the events that show the European world of thought and bigotry. Today, racist politics is on the rise in Europe and now there are Muslims and Turks on the target board.

We should not lose the equality and common future perspective.Because our cultural codes are different from the Europeans. Our greatest defeat is that we do not prevent to our educational systems and our country administrations and social structures from being captured . The aim of all this social occupation was to manipulate our cultural codes and motivational dynamics. We should not just look at the Islamic frame. Islam is not the only thing that connects us. All we are losers of the last major global sharing war. One of the reasons that make us all a part of this defeat is our common cultural backround.

If those who fight against Islam today are the ones who created many terrorist organizations such as AQ and its extensions, we also need to take back our religion, not just our future.

Bigotry and factionalism have no place in our culture. We are children of generations who have guided the world science and have guided the world trade for centuries. We didn't just lose our lands. As i said, we lost our vision of development and progress.
 
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Dear friend, the problem is that the Islamic world was shared by the dominant camps in the world. When the Ottoman state was destroyed, there was no dominant Islamic state in the world. When we founded the republic with the liberation struggle of Anatolia, some accused and humiliated us for abolishing the caliphate. But in 1923, 90% (or perhaps more) of the Islamic societies were in captivity or managed under a mandate administration by UK , France or Soviets.

Many of the greatest wars in the history of mankind have been experienced in the European continent. In the time of Napoleon, France reached up to the Russian territory and prevented the union of all the Germans in the region. The Germans entered Paris with tanks during the 3rd reich. These states, which have fought throughout history, have created a common development window as the EU and have succeeded in making their global interests compatible. In this way, were able to obtain a precise political domination of the both Russian and Turkey hinterland after fall of soviets. What could be the next stage? See after PESCO and then they started to talk common European army , and if Europe can take a decisive stance here, the NATO concept will undergo major changes.

I dont know why but we are fighting with each other in this forums or other areas. But none of the problems between us, as problematic as the historical background of a FRANCE-GERMANY.

Why can't we make it?

It is not a common state, but a weak confederative order ( like EU ) with a common global perspective, should be our first target.

For this reason, the D-8 initiative that emerged in the 90s but we could not remain stable behind., was a very important opportunity. We need such a large number of initiatives and collective capacity that will deepen our economic relations and dissolve our problems.

Europeans have a common race, culture and religion. It is not like they are inviting African Christian countries to join them
Other than religion Islamic world has nothing.Your D-8 is a joke
 
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