TuAF F16 , RuAF Su30 face off

[Tipu7]

By David Cenciotti

IT LOOKS LIKE A SUKHOI SU-30SM DEPLOYED TO SYRIA HAS HAD A CLOSE ENCOUNTER WITH TURKISH AIR FORCE F-16S PAST THE SYRIA-TURKEY BORDER.

Russian planes deployed to Syria violated the Turkish airspace twice in the last couple of days.

According to NATO, the violations occurred “on 3 October and 4 October by Russian Air Force SU-30 and SU-24 aircraft in the Hatay region. The aircraft in question entered Turkish airspace despite Turkish authorities’ clear, timely and repeated warnings. In accordance with NATO practice, Turkish fighter aircraft responded to these incursions by closing to identify the intruder, after which the Russian planes departed Turkish airspace.”

Some more (sometimes contradictory) details appeared on the Turkish media outlets: although the first reports said the aircraft (initially IDed as Mig-29 Fulcrums – a type flown by the Syrian Air Force and not deployed in theater by the RuAF) breached into the Turkish airspace for 5 miles, according to Ankara, the Russian Su-30SM multirole plane violated Tukey’s airspace by “only” some hundreds of meters and returned to Syria after it was intercepted by two F-16s from the Turkish Air Force out of 10 flying CAP (Combat Air Patrol) near the border.

#BREAKING Turkish military says MIG-29 planes harassed 2 Turkish F-16s for 5 min.40 seconds during reconnaissance flight over Syrian border

— CNN Türk ENG (@CNNTURK_ENG) 5 Ottobre 2015

Furthermore, it seems that the Russian Su-30SM (as said, initially referred to as a Mig-29, before it was determined it was a Flanker-derivative multirole jet) maintained a radar lock on one or both the F-16s for a full 5 minutes and 40 seconds.

According the Russians, the violation was due to a “navigation error”: quite funny considered the type of navigation systems equipping a modern Su-30SM.

Although the navigation error can’t never be ruled out a priori, considering the equipment carried by a 4++ Gen. aircraft, and that it was flying next to a “danger zone” there’s reason to believe that the two pilots on board were perfectly aware of their position.

What is even more weird is the fact that the Russian plane locked the Turkish F-16s for such a long time: instead of turning back the RuAF Sukhoi was ready to fire (or to respond to fire).

Almot no details are currently available about the Su-24 Fencer violation.

As explained when a Turkish RF-4 was shot down by a Syrian coastal anti-aircraft battery after violating the Syrian airspace in 2012, aircraft entering a foreign airspace should not be fired upon but warned, intercepted and eventually escorted outside the violated airspace.

In 2014, a Syrian Mi-17 was shot down by a TuAF F-16, while in 2013 it was the turn of a Syrian Mig-23. But now the Turkish F-16s defending Ankara borders face a different threat….


The Aviationist » Russian Su-30SM, Su-24 violate Turkish airspace. Flanker locks on TuAF F-16 for +5 minutes

 

[That Guy]

The Russians need to be careful, if they want to continue justifying their presence in Syria.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

You all need to relax...

Everyone is testing the air defense of one another.

Israelis flew out to the Mediterranean and then flanked the Syrian Coast.
Russians flew north to Turkey.
Coalition planes are flying all over Eastern Syria, from the Gulf, and Jordan. Some planes are testing Syrian (Assad's) defenses over the territory he controls.

Just a couple countries plotting their turf.

 

[manojb]

Wow 5 minutes lock on 2 f16s.. thats eternity.. f16 supposed to be having small rcs and nimble v/s huge su30. I think TuAF pilot need more training.

 

[The Ultranationalist]

lolzzz funny russions, they it was navigation error and locked on f16s for 5 mins turkey needs to come up with a better aircraft if they have to face sukhois or its gonna be a real turkey shoot for the russians

 

[Azeri440]

lolzzz funny russions, they it was navigation error and locked on f16s for 5 mins turkey needs to come up with a better aircraft if they have to face sukhois or its gonna be a real turkey shoot for the russians

Turkish F-16s with AWACs can wipe anything flying in Syria

 

[xperia]

The mig pilot must be enjoying it like a video game

 

[The Ultranationalist]

Turkish F-16s with AWACs can wipe anything flying in Syria

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awac will do what awacs do, even russian have got awacs, better in quality and in greater numbers. ask yourself a question, can f16s fight sukhoi 35 or mig35?

 

[Mujraparty]

Turkish F-16s with AWACs can wipe anything flying in Syria

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Apparently Russians are also fielding ground based jammers ..

Put into service in 2013, the Krasukha-4 is a broadband multifunctional jamming station, which is based on a BAZ-6910-022 four-axle-chassis.

The system has a range of 300 kilometers and is designed to counter airborne early warning and control systems and other airborne radar arrays.

The Krasukha-4's range allows it to effectively disrupt low Earth orbit satellites and cause permanent damage to targeted radio-electronic devices. Ground-based radars are also a viable target for the Krasukha-4 system

Read more: Jamming the Jihad: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Spotted in Syria

 

[Azeri440]

awac will do what awacs do, even russian have got awacs, better in quality and in greater numbers. ask yourself a question, can f16s fight sukhoi 35 or mig35?

in standalone BVR combat it can take on Mig-29/35 but definitely not Su-30/35

Russia doesn't have better AWACs , infact their AWACs are much older

 

[jung41]

Wow 5 minutes lock on 2 f16s.. thats eternity.. f16 supposed to be having small rcs and nimble v/s huge su30. I think TuAF pilot need more training.

Bro its the generosity of Su that it not engaged in dog fight otherwise many countries would have started selling their F-16 inventory

 

[Oldman1]

Apparently Russians are also fielding ground based jammers ..

Read more: Jamming the Jihad: Russian Electronic Warfare Systems Spotted in Syria

Those AWACs made in the U.S. and sold to Turkey has a range of at least 600km.

Wow 5 minutes lock on 2 f16s.. thats eternity.. f16 supposed to be having small rcs and nimble v/s huge su30. I think TuAF pilot need more training.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Russians were already on their radar the moment they took off.

 

[Azeri440]

Bro its the generosity of Su that it not engaged in dog fight otherwise many countries would have started selling their F-16 inventory

F-16s can easily beat a massive Su fighter in dog fight , specially when you got well trained pilots
Sukhoi fighters excel in BVR combat due to the radars and potentially being able to carry 12 BVR missiles.

 

[jung41]

F-16s can easily beat a massive Su fighter in dog fight , specially when you got well trained pilots
Sukhoi fighters excel in BVR combat due to the radars and potentially being able to carry 12 BVR missiles.

Try doing it with your F-16 and you will get the result..it doesn't matter whether its BVR or range SU is far far better than F-16

 

[Azeri440]

Try doing it with your F-16 and you will get the result..it doesn't matter whether its BVR or range SU is far far better than F-16

yes indeed it's better , but in dog fight , a much more maneuverable F-16 with a skilled pilot will have no problem dealing with a massive fighter such as a Su-30/35