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Militants' possession of Israeli arms raises questions


ISLAMABAD – Use of Israeli-made light arms by militants against security forces in Waziristan has raised several questions amongst many recently.
TheNation has learnt on good authority that militants are using Israeli-made light arms including “Uzi gun” and “Rapid-fire pistol” against security forces in North Waziristan as the operation Rah-I-Rast reached its final stage.
In addition to Israel-made sophisticated arms, militants are making use of the latest version of US-made M-16 carbine with laser designator and binoculars, Bulgarian and Czechoslovakia made Kalakov and M-4 carbine with a grenade launcher and laser designator, which is a unique weapon with the US marines.
Availability of sophisticated Israeli weapons within the militant’s ranks and their use against security forces has raised several eyebrows in Islamabad.
But not only the militants are in possession of such type of deadly weapons but they are easily accessible by the common people of Pakistan, especially in Punjab.
As a matter of fact, the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has brought state-of-the-art foreign-made lethal weapons to Pakistan’s arms markets in the tribal areas and other parts of the country.
At a time when militants equipped with US, European, and Israeli-made deadly weapons are offering resistance to the Army, these sophisticated weapons are attracting buyers from across the country, particularly Punjab. Apart from foreign-made weapons, Wah Factory manufactured MP-5 rifle pieces are also available in Dara market.
A source in the Wazir Dand arms market, Khyber Agency claimed “a slain Afghan commander, belonging to eastern Nangarhar, sold 300 pieces of M-16 rifles in Landi Kotal” a year and half earlier. These rifles are in the possession of militants, especially the Uzbeks and Tajiks, are being used intensively against security forces.
The Obama administration is stepping up pressure on Pakistan to expand and reorient its fight against the Taliban and Al Qaeda, warning that failing to do so would undercut the new strategy of troops increase in Afghanistan that President Obama is preparing to approve, said an influential US newspaper “The New York Times”, quoting American official sources.
Since the Obama administration has decided to send more US troops into Afghanistan, Pakistan has made it clear that addition of more troops will inevitably push more Taliban fighters across the border into Pakistani territory, especially Waziristan.
The pushing of militants from Afghanistan to Pakistan means heavy transportation of lethal weapons (both light and heavy) into Pakistani areas bordering Afghanistan, causing more resistance to security forces, defence analysts fear.
According to official sources, huge transportation of weapons from Afghanistan into Pakistan has been noted at a time when US-led NATO forces vacated a half-dozen remote outposts a month earlier.
Sources said the issue was raised during a meeting of top government authorities with US Secretary of State Mrs. Clinton when she visited Islamabad recently.
Mrs. Clinton argued that NATO had actually increased troop levels along that border but had decided to consolidate about a half-dozen remote outposts into fewer, larger installations, because they were easier to defend.
So great was the Pakistani concern over the outpost closures that Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top NATO commander in Afghanistan, made a special point during an unannounced trip to Islamabad after Mrs. Clinton’s visit to reassure Pakistani officials of the American resolve.
 
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They might have gotten that from Black market.There are plenty of private arms dealer.

What ? Black Market?:lol::lol::lol:

Raw and Mosad is funding them and providing them arms , wake up general:woot:
 
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yea mosad n raw our enemies number1 they dont want us a stabilized and peace full nation

OK !!

U r the most peacefull nation on earth...which harbors hafiz sayeed who openly asks to destroy india...masood azhar who was released by hijacking passengers of civilian aircraft....

and wait a minute...U call them freedom fighters isnt it???
 
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OK !!

U r the most peacefull nation on earth...which harbors hafiz sayeed who openly asks to destroy india...masood azhar who was released by hijacking passengers of civilian aircraft....

and wait a minute...U call them freedom fighters isnt it???

Who call them freedom fighter :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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Militants' possession of Israeli arms raises questions


In addition to Israel-made sophisticated arms, militants are making use of the latest version of US-made M-16 carbine with laser designator and binoculars, Bulgarian and Czechoslovakia made Kalakov and M-4 carbine with a grenade launcher and laser designator, which is a unique weapon with the US marines.
Availability of sophisticated Israeli weapons within the militant’s ranks and their use against security forces has raised several eyebrows in Islamabad.
But not only the militants are in possession of such type of deadly weapons but they are easily accessible by the common people of Pakistan, especially in Punjab.
As a matter of fact, the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has brought state-of-the-art foreign-made lethal weapons to Pakistan’s arms markets in the tribal areas and other parts of the country.
At a time when militants equipped with US, European, and Israeli-made deadly weapons are offering resistance to the Army, these sophisticated weapons are attracting buyers from across the country, particularly Punjab. Apart from foreign-made weapons, Wah Factory manufactured MP-5 rifle pieces are also available in Dara market.
A source in the Wazir Dand arms market, Khyber Agency claimed “a slain Afghan commander, belonging to eastern Nangarhar, sold 300 pieces of M-16 rifles in Landi Kotal” a year and half earlier. These rifles are in the possession of militants, especially the Uzbeks and Tajiks, are being used intensively against security forces.

Fundamentalist: Going by your logic, the Bulgarian and Czechs are also funding the Taliban! :lol:

The article clearly indicates that there is a thriving black market of foreign-manufactured lethal weapons in the region. Did you even read the entire article? :)
 
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if i say they also carry arms used by pakistani force will u agree tat pakistan general and isi ar the cause wat u say?
 
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Fundamentalist: Going by your logic, the Bulgarian and Czechs are also funding the Taliban! :lol:

The article clearly indicates that there is a thriving black market of foreign-manufactured lethal weapons in the region. Did you even read the entire article? :)

I know which kind of weapon made and sold in dara khyber agency,bannu,Quetta,Malakand areas , but these latest weapons mentioned above are Indian or Israeli made not Russian.

Chechans are fighting along with Afghan talaban against ISAF naturaly they have Russian arms.
 
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well ithink that you cannot prove that TTP are being funded by India and Isreal by just saying that they have got indian/israeli weapons. There IS a black market out there and taliban can get these weapons through this black market, they even have some chinese weapons, does this mean that china is also supporting taliban?
note that i do beleive that TTP may be funded by RAW or Mossad but the preasence of these weapons cannot be taken as a proof.
 
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RAW involvement is beyond doubt now. I am still open to Mossad involvement theory. They don't want Pakistan to have nukes but at the same time they don't face any major threat from Pakistan.
 
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RAW involvement is beyond doubt now. I am still open to Mossad involvement theory. They don't want Pakistan to have nukes but at the same time they don't face any major threat from Pakistan.

Of course! Israeli, Bulgarian, Czech and American arms and its RAW's hand without doubt. The article doesn't even mention RAW anywhere.
Your mind is already clouded. Whatever the evidence you will always blame RAW!
 
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well ithink that you cannot prove that TTP are being funded by India and Isreal by just saying that they have got indian/israeli weapons. There IS a black market out there and taliban can get these weapons through this black market, they even have some chinese weapons, does this mean that china is also supporting taliban?
note that i do beleive that TTP may be funded by RAW or Mossad but the preasence of these weapons cannot be taken as a proof.

The black marketing of Israeli weapons in conflicts has been rare and not heard of. So such a thing happening in this conflict does raises eyebrows as from my sources the TTP guys have such high tech equipment and weapons which the Afghan Taliban even don't have. If Afghan Taliban are using Eastern Block weapons, dragnov sniper rifles, then how come TTP gets western origin weapons while Afghan Taliban don't. If we leave aside weapons, PA has captured Satellite Telephones and eavesdropping equipment sophisticated enough to let TTP guys listen to PA communication, even frequency hopping radio sets captured too. So one faction of Taliban gets old Russian equipment while the one in Pakistan use more sophisticated equipment. And if it is lets suppose black marketing, who is letting such latest weapons get into Afghanistan and then smuggled into Pakistan and how the TTP finances such expensive western origin weapons.

So if in depth we go, many ambiguous questions do arise. And i have myself seen M4 carbines with SOPMOD accessories, M249 SAW and M16 with arms dealers and as per his account there are plenty more in transit and with arms dealers in the tribal agency.
 
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Of course! Israeli, Bulgarian, Czech and American arms and its RAW's hand without doubt. The article doesn't even mention RAW anywhere.
Your mind is already clouded. Whatever the evidence you will always blame RAW!

You're acting emotional, irrational, and putting words into my mouth now. I was not speaking of RAW as regards to this article. I was simply mentioning that RAW is the only organization whose involvement is confirmed but Mossad is plausible. Why I chose to mention RAW? Because since we know of one intelligence agency in involvement in terrorism, another one may be involved too. That's not a confirmation however.
 
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The black marketing of Israeli weapons in conflicts has been rare and not heard of. So such a thing happening in this conflict does raises eyebrows as from my sources the TTP guys have such high tech equipment and weapons which the Afghan Taliban even don't have. If Afghan Taliban are using Eastern Block weapons, dragnov sniper rifles, then how come TTP gets western origin weapons while Afghan Taliban don't. If we leave aside weapons, PA has captured Satellite Telephones and eavesdropping equipment sophisticated enough to let TTP guys listen to PA communication, even frequency hopping radio sets captured too. So one faction of Taliban gets old Russian equipment while the one in Pakistan use more sophisticated equipment. And if it is lets suppose black marketing, who is letting such latest weapons get into Afghanistan and then smuggled into Pakistan and how the TTP finances such expensive western origin weapons.

So if in depth we go, many ambiguous questions do arise. And i have myself seen M4 carbines with SOPMOD accessories, M249 SAW and M16 with arms dealers and as per his account there are plenty more in transit and with arms dealers in the tribal agency.

Excellent post and precisely the point which should raise some eyebrows.
 
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