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TTP Murdered 11 foreign mountaineers at Nanga Parbat base camp.

the terrorists must be moving at night...hiding during the day...as Pakistan don't have night vision...

this toime the terrorists really need to be caught as they got too bold this time...
 
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are you serious? you don't actually mean that right? because its you who needs lesson on how Intelligence system works.....
First thing
You have IB - which is under direct command of PM and works under Civilian govt that is why it always had PSP officers in it.
They are supposed to gather intelligence on anything happening in Pakistan (like they need to watch TTP, Target killers in karachi, Violence / abductions in Balochistan, secular attacks). It is their job to look at local militant groups.

Than you have FIA - with its SIU / SIG. Special Investigation Group. The sole purpose is to gather forensic evidence, trace militant funding . and than they have Tactical units which are actually supposed to take actions.

Than you have the lower level Intelligence Units. which is often tagged as Police Special Branch. There job is to keep an eye on local gangs, drug trafficking , and militancy.

So the way I look at it, SB should have kept a eye in the area. If there was no SB unit there than you need to have IB personnel in place in the region.....do you even know IB / FIA have regional stations just like Police stations and they are overlooked by a personnel at the rank of Inspector = SHO

Big revelation indeed. please keep me up to date. I will advise you read again my post and refrain yourself from telling these childish information.
 
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Ok here is what i read on Duniya news website ticker and they dont give any details..

" police arrests 35 suspects from the area "

" Terrorists fired heavy weapons at tourists from close range"

Now how the hell they simply ran away with "Heavy weapons" ?
 
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ISI needs to be dissolved on charges of incompetence and complicity in crime and terrorism.

And leave bozos like you to take the front seat. Cant u understand the simple mechanism ISI is an spy agency responsible for gathering intelligence from outside. Have you got any idea that how many times they have already thwarted the terror attacks. In general IB is responsible for internal matters. This does not mean alongwith IB ......ISI should also be accountable.
 
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dude, learn intelligence frame work, you have even no idea how intelligence is worked what responsibilities they have. ISI is damn responsible for this incident when its their duty to get information of potential threat for country and analyze possible targets and then discussed or pass this information to IB, Military intelligence, ministry of interior to take necessary steps. Problem in our country is that we have no centralize system when too much agencies and lowest efficiency rate. The type of attack and current political scenario and moreover given source of news gives clear image of masterminds.

Son, just taking emotional side will not solve the problem. Problem will solve when we will bring 'SHUTAR BE MUHAARs' in the court and questioned for their duties.

You have seen too many Hollywood Movies ,, Come back to reality ...

and i know about Intelligence work .. more then all of you Combine here.
 
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Big revelation indeed. please keep me up to date. I will advise you read again my post and refrain yourself from telling these childish information.

you said ISI needs to pass on information to IB than what is IB suppose to do? eat mangos?
 
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Problem in our country is that we have no centralize system when too much agencies and lowest efficiency rate. The type of attack and current political scenario and moreover given source of news gives clear image of masterminds.

Son, just taking emotional side will not solve the problem. Problem will solve when we will bring 'SHUTAR BE MUHAARs' in the court and questioned for their duties.
the bold part above i agree with, we do not have any central system in place , i hardly see any co-ordination between IB and Police. Though IB has been pushed to its toes in the recent times but again we need more co-ordination. Centralize system, quick access to database for LEA, criminal record should be centralized too
 
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How twisted the reasoning for killing Chinese and Ukrainian climbers in Gilgit-Balistan near Nanga Parbat. These terrorists have been creating havoc all over Pakistan and now they are not even leaving those peaceful tourists who come and contribute towards the country’s dying tourism industry. There is no excuse for even one person to support these killers who have blatantly killed and proudly claimed responsibility of their heinous crimes over and over again. We all need to call out the enemy for what they are and remain united against this common enemy of humanity. By sticking together we can work to bring about sustained peace in the region.



Abdul Quddus
DET-United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

There were Slovaks , Lithuanian, Nepali and a Pakistani local as well .
 
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you said ISI needs to pass on information to IB than what is IB suppose to do? eat mangos?

Well to be honest, can't blame the IB since the mangoes are too delicious to resist. Although at Gilgit they might seem a bit out of place.

Some of the recent comments were really fun to read!
 
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Well to be honest, can't blame the IB since the mangoes are too delicious to resist. Although at Gilgit they might seem a bit out of place.

Some of the recent comments were really fun to read!
than you cant blame ISI / MI as they must have been busy sucking up on that Baraf ka gola :D
 
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Such culprits should be punished with fast track courts in place. One more reason for international tourists to stay away from Pakistan
 
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These sort of attacks against the innocent will continue unless there is accountability. It is baffling how these pigs are able to kill innocent people in scores, and get away scot free without facing any consequences. Why do you think these groups think 10 times before attacking the Israelis, because the Israelis don't forget. They regroup, they plan and when the time comes they strike with extreme ferocity. Unless the Security Agencies in Pakistan attack these people back with overwhelming force, make them fear the State, these attacks will continue. A message needs to be sent to these Groups that if they get out of line, the State will hunt them down and punish them for their actions.
 
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how many suspect haven't been caught till now? any update??


37 held in Diamer search operation


Farooq Ahmed Khan



GILGIT: Troops carried out a search operation on Monday, along with personnel of the Gilgit-Baltistan Scouts, Frontier Constabulary and police, in the area where 10 foreign mountaineers had been killed in an armed attack on Sunday and took into custody 37 suspects.

“The joint operation by the army, paramilitary troops and police will continue,” Diamer Deputy Commissioner Mohammad Ajmal Bhattee told Dawn.

He said evidence was being gathered to help trace the attackers. He said a case had been registered by Gunar Farm police and the suspects had been taken to Gilgit for interrogation.

The official said an investigation camp had been set up at the Nanga Parbat base camp at Diamori that had come under attack and all routes to the place had been sealed, but the administration was facing difficulty in maintaining communication with the operating forces in the area because of tough terrain.

The deputy commissioner said the government had held talks with leaders of local groups and they had promised to cooperate in the investigation.

A meeting held on Monday in Chilas in connection with the investigation was attended by the chief secretary and police chief of Gilgit-Baltistan.

The official said the luggage of the victims was being collected and brought to Chilas to be sent to Islamabad and handed over to their families.

Meanwhile, Gilgit-Baltistan Chief Minister Syed Mehdi Shah is reported to have been displeased by the decision of the federal interior minister to suspend the region’s chief secretary and inspector general of police.

According to an official, he ordered the suspended officials to continue to perform their duties and said their suspension was outside the domain of the federal government.

“If suspension of officials could establish peace then first of all the chief secretaries and IGs of Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa should have been suspended,” he was quoted as saying.

He said the officials could not be suspended without his consent.

STRIKE: The Chilas town remained closed on Monday in mourning for the people killed in the base camp attack.

All markets remained closed and people took to the streets, raising slogans against the killers and demanding their early arrest.

At a largely attended public meeting the speakers termed the terrorist attack a conspiracy against their area.

AFP/ Reuters add: A police official said four helicopters were combing the areas in search of the attackers.

Expeditions on Nanga Parbat, the country’s second-highest peak, were suspended and climbers evacuated form the area.

It is a major blow to trekking expeditions which provide the last vestige of international tourism in the country. Naiknam Karim, general secretary of the Pakistan Association of Tour Operators, said the killings were a ‘disaster’ for Gilgit-Baltistan, where tourism was the main source of income.

He said he had already received a slew of cancellations by email and telephone.

Before the 9/11 attacks in the US, more than 20,000 foreign tourists, climbers and trekkers used to visit Gilgit-Baltistan each year, but the number had since fallen to around 5,000, he said.

He said an average non-trekking tourist spent about $3,000 in the area, but trekkers sunk $8,000-10,000 into the local economy.

“We used to be able to convince foreign tourists that there was peace in Gilgit-Baltistan but this incident has ruined everything,” he told AFP.

“It will also badly affect domestic tourism... The Pakistani government has to take steps to re-build the trust otherwise this last industry will be ruined,” he added.

The Alpine Club of Pakistan said around 40 remaining climbers on Nanga Parbat had been airlifted to Gilgit.

The club’s president Manzoor Hussain said there would be no further expeditions on Nanga Parbat this summer and the requests for winter climbs would be subject to a security review. “This season is over.”

He said expeditions on other peaks higher than 8,000 metres had not been suspended and there were troops in those areas.

Mr Hussain said the attack was well-planned, carried out by well-equipped and well-trained people familiar with the harsh terrain, with suspected local involvement.

“It took place at 4,200 metres. It has to be the work of well-trained people. It takes two to three days to reach (the camp). The body needs to adjust to the climate for climbing up. How they went undetected is a big question.”

Mr Hussain said citizens from Serbia, Italy, Ireland, Denmark, the United States and several other countries had been evacuated from a higher camp.

A group of Romanians is believed to be scaling the mountain from another side.

Mountaineers, many from China, Russia and Eastern Europe, are among the last foreigners who regularly visit Pakistan for leisure as tourism has been devastated since 2007 by militant attacks and fighting between the Taliban and the army.

Before the attack some 50 groups were expected this year in Gilgit-Baltistan.

“I haven’t slept since yesterday, it’s a very sad situation,” said Ghulam Mohammed, whose Skardu-based company Blue Sky Treks and Tours guided five of the climbers killed at the base camp. He was in Islamabad to speak to embassies and relatives of the victims.

Source ( 37 held in Diamer search operation - DAWN.COM )

Nanga Parbat massacre: Thousands protest against the ‘unprecedented’ incident


By Shabbir Mir


Published: June 25, 2013

More than 4,000 people gathered at the ‘Siddiq Akbar’ intersection to protest against the incident. PHOTO: REUTERS/FILE
GILGIT:

Thousands of people participated in a demonstration in Chilas town on Monday against the vicious massacre of foreign tourists near the base camp of Pakistan’s second highest peak – Nanga Parbat.

“We strongly condemn the brutal act which defamed the entire country especially Diamer valley,” said Taifoor Shah, a local leader of the Pakistan Peoples Party, as he addressed the rally.

Tourism is one of the main sources of income for locals. Those committing such crimes want to deprive people of livelihood, pointed out Shah.

Life came to a standstill as traders closed their shops to express solidarity with the affected families. More than 4,000 people gathered at the ‘Siddiq Akbar’ intersection to protest against the incident; one which has been termed unprecedented in the history of Gilgit-Baltistan.

Armed men, dressed in Gilgit Scouts uniforms, stormed a camp at Kutgali near the base camp of Nanga Parbat early Sunday, and shot down 10 foreign mountaineers and a Pakistani guide at point blank range. A Chinese climber managed to escape the assault at the foot of Nanga Parbat, located in Diamer valley.

Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz’s Haji Waheed termed the act a conspiracy against the public, aimed at derailing projects like the Diamer–Bhasha Dam and railway track project with China. These were announced by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif recently.

“Our enemies don’t want us to progress but we as a nation have to counter such plots,” said Waheed.

Among others, the rally was also addressed by Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazal’s Shabbir Ahmad and Maulana Giyas who asked the government to arrest culprits and expose them to the public.

Published in The Express Tribune, June 25th, 2013.

Source ( Nanga Parbat massacre: Thousands protest against the )
 
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