TTP fighters infiltrate into Chitral and attempt to seize villages/posts 6/9/23

[PakAlp]

Yeah,, if the afghanis were Hindus we would have obliterated them by now

Just because people don't like to hear it doesn't mean it's not true

It's pashtunism that's the problem, they view this people as family and if we kill their family for whatever reason they get upset

The fact their family are deshatgard and committing terrorism doesn't matter , because that's gernails, dollor vaar, stet kill pashto Pashto etc etc,, endless victim mentality and card

But now we MUST act, we have to control that border and come down hard on the Afghan refugees and anyone supporting them or the TTP



Everyone saw what happened in Chitral,, all the population in unity said kill these Afghan scum and don't let them being their stupidity to our peaceful region

Compare to the Waziristani, who are rabid farm animals in comparisons

During general mushraff time when Pakistan sent 100,000 troops to the tribal areas, it caused an uproar. The people of that region didn't want Pakistan military in their areas and they probably still don't. They want to live their life how they want to, and not get influenced by Sindhi/Punjabi bollywood culture. This all causes more hatred and rebellion.

 

[maithil]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701162678788501991

 

[Reichmarshal]

All kind of bull crap is being posted on this forum about the origins n make up of ttp...this i had twitted some years ago about the exact things ie makeup of ttp

 

[hussain0216]

During general mushraff time when Pakistan sent 100,000 troops to the tribal areas, it caused an uproar. The people of that region didn't want Pakistan military in their areas and they probably still don't. They want to live their life how they want to, and not get influenced by Sindhi/Punjabi bollywood culture. This all causes more hatred and rebellion.

You could leave them to live like farm animals of they want

But they still have to obey the law

Democracy means they can elect representatives and then they can take their own pace to development


What they can't do is spread fassad, terrorism, violence or sedition


What's happening at the moment is the locals their either openly support and shelter terrorists
OR they look the other way and actively try to ignore their presence and activities which involves locals, friends, family and tribal pashtuns
When a bomb goes off or something the same people will come out and blame generals and dollor vaar


It's fassad

 

[PakAlp]

You could leave them to live like farm animals of they want

But they still have to obey the law

Democracy means they can elect representatives and then they can take their own pace to development


What they can't do is spread fassad, terrorism, violence or sedition


What's happening at the moment is the locals their either openly support and shelter terrorists
OR they look the other way and actively try to ignore their presence and activities which involves locals, friends, family and tribal pashtuns
When a bomb goes off or something the same people will come out and blame generals and dollor vaar


It's fassad

Who obeys the law in Punjab or Sindh? The biggest dacoits and corrupt are from these provinces, they are the ruling power of Pakistan and look at our state. Its better to not point fingers at others and try to come out with ideas which can unite us.

 

[TheSolution]

Yeah,, if the afghanis were Hindus we would have obliterated them by now

Just because people don't like to hear it doesn't mean it's not true

It's pashtunism that's the problem, they view this people as family and if we kill their family for whatever reason they get upset

The fact their family are deshatgard and committing terrorism doesn't matter , because that's gernails, dollor vaar, stet kill pashto Pashto etc etc,, endless victim mentality and card

But now we MUST act, we have to control that border and come down hard on the Afghan refugees and anyone supporting them or the TTP



Everyone saw what happened in Chitral,, all the population in unity said kill these Afghan scum and don't let them being their stupidity to our peaceful region

Compare to the Waziristani, who are rabid farm animals in comparisons

Pakistan has crazy amount of firepower but it simply cannot use it due to two things:

- They are Muslim

- They are Pashtun

It would literally cause uproar if Pakistan became brutal and in my opinion our soldiers are probably not as strongly motivated to be aggressive as they are against Indians.

If they were Hindus we would probably witness one of the worst massacres in history

 

[TheSolution]

Who obeys the law in Punjab or Sindh? The biggest dacoits and corrupt are from these provinces, they are the ruling power of Pakistan and look at our state. Its better to not point fingers at others and try to come out with ideas which can unite us.

Comparing the general population of one area to a handful of elites in another is retarded

One creates severe lawlessness, instability and lack of progressive

The other creates corruption and nepotism but there is still stability for some progress

There should be a deadline set for this insurgency, if it's not significantly dissipated by that time, bring out tactical nukes and obliterate entire areas

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Democracy means they can elect representatives and then they can take their own pace to development

Vote of No Confidence as well as the current imposition of the caretaker gov on KPK and GB disprove that faujeet talking point.

No one elected Ishaq Dar, faujeets flew him in and let him wreck any and all development

 

[hussain0216]

Vote of No Confidence as well as the current imposition of the caretaker gov on KPK and GB disprove that faujeet talking point.

No one elected Ishaq Dar, faujeets flew him in and let him wreck any and all development

Yeah but you don't see anyone else in the country blowing things up and murdering people

There are a lot of people I disagree with but no one kills each other, what's wrong with these people that they are constantly committing terrorism

 

[Meengla]

They are AFGHANS

What happens in Pakistan is up to to Pakistani, we will choose

If afghans wants Taliban in Afghanistan that's fine, but the Taliban are afghans

TTP are afghans too and have no right to dictate what Pakistani do

Correct.
And no one wants the 'Sharia' of the Taliban in Pakistan. Pakistan, even under the best of relations with Mullah Umar's Afghanistan (1996-2001) tried to moderate their policies but some cultures are just too far behind to get out of their primitive ways--using their tribal code as 'Islam'. And we all saw their rule in Swat in late 2000's: Brutes!

All the Pakistanis wanted were Afghanistan to be ruled by Afghans themselves--whether they be Taliban or Tajiks but not foreign puppets who'd easily manipulated.

The problem with Afghanistan is Afghans themselves: On one hand there were the sellouts like Karzai and Ghani. On the other hand, there are the Taliban.

And the attacks by TTP from Afghanistan are not surprising: Before even Americans withdrew, Pakistani analysts had rightly assessed that TTP and the Afghan Taliban are the two faces of the same coin. Go and look up what General Tariq Khan had to say about them. The TTP terrorists are surely emboldened by the Afghan Taliban victory against the Americans. There is no way to stop them except by degrading them and hoping that one day Afghans will eventually join the modern world.

Afghans, especially the tribal brutes, are a curse on Pakistan!!

 

[TheSolution]

Correct.
And no one wants the 'Sharia' of the Taliban in Pakistan. Pakistan, even under the best of relations with Mullah Umar's Afghanistan (1996-2001) tried to moderate their policies but some cultures are just too far behind to get out of their primitive ways--using their tribal code as 'Islam'. And we all saw their rule in Swat in late 2000's: Brutes!

All the Pakistanis wanted were Afghanistan to be ruled by Afghans themselves--whether they be Taliban or Tajiks but not foreign puppets who'd easily manipulated.

The problem with Afghanistan is Afghans themselves: On one hand there were the sellouts like Karzai and Ghani. On the other hand, there are the Taliban.

And the attacks by TTP from Afghanistan are not surprising: Before even Americans withdrew, Pakistani analysts had rightly assessed that TTP and the Afghan Taliban are the two faces of the same coin. Go and look up what General Tariq Khan had to say about them. The TTP terrorists are surely emboldened by the Afghan Taliban victory against the Americans. There is no way to stop them except by degrading them and hoping that one day Afghans will eventually join the modern world.

Afghans, especially the tribal brutes, are a curse on Pakistan!!

Shariah for the Taliban means tribalism and Pashtun supremacy

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Yeah but you don't see anyone else in the country blowing things up and murdering people

There are a lot of people I disagree with but no one kills each other, what's wrong with these people that they are constantly committing terrorism

You said "Democracy means they can elect representatives and then they can take their own pace to development"

Your point about democracy is moot then since there's no democracy and only an imposition of a caretaker government in KPK and GB.

 

[SaadH]

If PAF launches drone strikes then all Taliban lovers (of which there is no shortage of in ex-FATA and KP, and now even urban areas thanks to Taliban Khan cult following) will be out on the streets drawing parallels between PAF and evil Kaafir USAF drone strikes.

Last time PAF openly struck Afghanistan there were protests all over the Pasthun belt because the terrorists were living with their family members who also got hit.

TTP was created when Pakistan was declared kaafir after sided with US in its war against terror in Afghanistan.

The real problem is the Afghanistan lovers in Pakistan. Not the Taliban's military prowess.


This is also why ISPR calls drone strikes "artillery" in press releases.

When did PA become such a magnanimous woke outfit?

They just overthew a highly popular pukhtun PM and threw him into the most notorious prison in the country and locked up over 11K workers of the biggest political party in the country.

They could care less about what Pukhtun belt thinks, neither now nor when they along with their masters droning, bombing and strafing them with impunity.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

When did PA become such a magnanimous woke outfit?

They just overthew a highly popular pukhtun PM and threw him into the most notorious prison in the country and locked up over 11K workers of the biggest political party in the country.

They could care less about what Pukhtun belt thinks, neither now nor when they along with their masters droning, bombing and strafing them with impunity.

It’s the same excuse faujeets use to say about why CPEC is struggling in Balochistan

Remember somehow mighty Baloch were able to halt a project that was done by China (the next superpower) and Pakistan, a country that has one of the largest armies in the world lol.

 

[HerbertPervert]

When did PA become such a magnanimous woke outfit?

They just overthew a highly popular pukhtun PM and threw him into the most notorious prison in the country and locked up over 11K workers of the biggest political party in the country.

They could care less about what Pukhtun belt thinks, neither now nor when they along with their masters droning, bombing and strafing them with impunity.

There was an era of peace after Raheel Sharif and one of the largest border fences had been constructed since that time. How the hell do they still have these problems after India has left the western border and you fenced almost all of it? Either there is incompetence in the establishment or they are in on it.

First they blamed India and West. Now they are gone. Then they blamed the porous border. Now that's been fenced. Now they blame Imran Khan. He's been gone over a year before these attacks and is now jailed. Who are they going to blame next?

You see my point? If people need an excuse for incompetence or corruption, they will always find one!