TTP ends ceasefire with govt, orders its militants to ‘carry out attacks in entire country’

[Olympus81]

Yes, in the medium term TTP needs to be systematically eliminated, and in the long run the same should happen with Afghan Taliban.

 

[newb3e]

What is ethnocentric about what @newb3e said?

boot worshiper with zero world experience high on generals piss and ispr geets cant take the truth!

 

[hussain0216]

It is still pretty suspicious that under all this chaos, TTP has started to resurge in places like Swat with ISPR accounts saying its fake news then confirmations taking place.



Then why did PTM protest against TTP in Swat?

They are all the same trash people

What's the point of blocking a road saying your peaceful when your own brothers are killing and bombing places. Then when security attempts to block your brother's you come out to protest


No Insurgency or terrorists actions can take place without local support,, this is FACT. Why can TTP come back Into those areas and not anywhere else? Because the locals have always been complicit and involved

Shows you don't know $hit

Sure the TTP is the Sindhi militant wing

 

[Areesh]

@Mirzali Khan

Direct line. Right from right from Mirza Ali Khan aka Faqir of Ipi to Baitullah mehsud

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597115648517476353

 

[Menace2Society]

At the peak of TTP they were knocking on doors in Pakistan and taking the eldest son to become their child suicide bomber. They would train them to blow themselves in markets.

This is what we are dealing with. This group is Afghan and supported by the Taliban.

70k Pakistani lives could have been saved had we been more proactive. PA needs to create a red line, one more attack and Paktia, Kunar and Khost gets chemical attacks and grandma will be incinerated alongside her grandchildren. F**k it lets toast the entire family tree.

 

[AlKardai]

At the peak of TTP they were knocking on doors in Pakistan and taking the eldest son to become their child suicide bomber. They would train them to blow themselves in markets.

This is what we are dealing with. This group is Afghan and supported by the Taliban.

70k Pakistani lives could have been saved had we been more proactive. PA needs to create a red line, one more attack and Paktia, Kunar and Khost gets chemical attacks and grandma will be incinerated alongside her grandchildren. F**k it lets toast the entire family tree.

Killing innocents only sharpens the enemy's resolve.

Plus, it would lead to a full on war with the taliban- something we cannot afford.

 

[That Guy]

Killing innocents only sharpens the enemy's resolve.

Plus, it would lead to a full on war with the taliban- something we cannot afford.

Dealing with the Afghan taliban is the easy part, killing innocents will make it harder.

Target Taliban bases, and send the ISI to spread Pakistani influence in the border areas and weaken the taliban's influence there. The Taliban still don't have a firm grip on the country, Pakistan should use that to its advantage.

So long as the taliban support the ttp, Pakistan should do everything in its power to undermine the taliban government along the border areas with Pakistan.

Do what Israel does to Lebanon, send a constant stream of jets and drones to Afghanistan. Make it clear that Pakistan will aways control Afghanistan's sky and keep an eye on Afghanistan's activities, and there is nothing the taliban can do about it.

The taliban are not to be trusted. I'm glad people are finally seeing the truth, even after I was insulted for the last decade for pointing out that the Afghans and the taliban can never be Pakistan's friends.

Pakistan must always make sure that the taliban know they will never be able to escape the shadow of Pakistan, and retaliation will come swiftly and be devastating.

 

[FuturePAF]

Perhaps, I guess we'll see how this plays out. Although uncle wouldn't be that old really

Relatively speaking, convincing the under 30 crowd is what I was referring to.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

I'm assuming that after the whole recent debacle with IK, they are becoming more PTM leaning with less belief in Khan. It's a growing sentiment, and I doubt PTI will have the same level of support without Imran Khan.

How is it a growing sentiment if PTI is winning all the elections?

And you said they would choose them over Khan "This is limited to Peshawar, you spread out from there and generally they'll choose PTM/IEA over Khan."

1. Because of sour relations between the two historically and racism. A lot of Pashtuns consider Punjabis their arch nemesis lmao

Why hasn't there been a Punjabi vs Pashtun riot in Pakistan then?

2. Why are most of their attacks limited to Pashtun areas and their demands limited to Pashtun areas (issues)? Even their fighters seem to be mostly Pashtun.

They want shariah over all of Pakistan, that's not really a Pashtun nationalist thing.

no one is truly up-to-date on Kashmiri insurgency news.

Because Kashmiri insurgency is dead.

Just because they claim something it doesn't really mean much when their actions seem to imply something else.

TTP was locked up in Ashraf Ghani's jails. But got released when Taliban took over. Ghani was more Pashtun nationalist than the other 2 groups.

It was in reference to the potential high risk areas in the future.

Although there has been threats:

Most terrorism in Quetta has been from BLA or sectarian groups from Punjab.

They are all the same trash people

What's the point of blocking a road saying your peaceful when your own brothers are killing and bombing places. Then when security attempts to block your brother's you come out to protest


No Insurgency or terrorists actions can take place without local support,, this is FACT. Why can TTP come back Into those areas and not anywhere else? Because the locals have always been complicit and involved

Ali Wazir had 16 of his family members killed because of the Taliban

So how are they exactly the same?

 

[TheSolution]

Why hasn't there been a Punjabi vs Pashtun riot in Pakistan then?

Probably because of the way ethnic groups are spread out in the country.

But I don't understand how you can deny the sour relations between the two groups. Mainly from the Pashtun side.

It's essentially straight up denial.

They want shariah over all of Pakistan, that's not really a Pashtun nationalist thing.

It's still a sus movement, if their objectives were so broad, you'd expect more ethnicities to take part and the attacks to be spread out rather than concentrated in specific Pashtun areas.

IEA also claims to be an Islamic movement by the way, but they are persecuting other ethnicities like usual and want to keep ethnic hegemony.

 

[villageidiot]

Then why did PTM protest against TTP in Swat?

 

[TheSolution]

@Mirzali Khan

Direct line. Right from right from Mirza Ali Khan aka Faqir of Ipi to Baitullah mehsud

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597115648517476353

Lmao if you read the replies of the TTP fanboys they themselves literally call it "Islamic Pashtun nationalism" - which is exactly what's been happening in Afghanistan. They take control in the name of Islam and then start massacring the Hazaras and Tajiks.

In a country like Pakistan, Islamic recruitment is the easiest nation-wide, it makes you wonder why TTP is limited to Pashtun tribes and areas. Same thing. Islamic Pashtun nationalism.

 

[villageidiot]

To tug on the current emotional sentiments of the people. It can't abandon them when they are at their most vulnerable point.

THIS.

PTM stands to gain the most from angry PTI voters who feel IK isn't doing enough, which a lot of people genuinely believe. and they are doign it.

All of sudden, you see these stupid mofos of PTI on twitter saying manzoor pashteen was right and shit like that. esp after that speech in lahore.

To these people, i say, once he's taken advantage of a weakened army, he'll be coming for your daal-khor a*s.

 

[TheSolution]

THIS.

PTM stands to gain the most from angry PTI voters who feel IK isn't doing enough, which a lot of people genuinely believe. and they are doign it.

All of sudden, you see these stupid mofos of PTI on twitter saying manzoor pashteen was right and shit like that. esp after that speech in lahore.

To these people, i say, once he's taken advantage of a weakened army, he'll be coming for your daal-khor a*s.

Exactly. All their politics and actions are ethnic-centred because that's their culture.

Just study Afghanistan and the massacres and genocides of non-Pashtuns. Not at all to be trusted. Hazaras and Tajiks are still crying to this day and the Pashtuns mock them about it

They will always tug on public or Islamic sentiment for wider support, but the objective at the end is ethnocentric in nature.

There should be a serious consideration made on the possibility of nuking Afghanistan in the future. For how long as you going to drone them, bribe them, plead, and suffer from militancy? Another 20-years, 30-years, 50-years?

Eventually a foreign power will see use in Afghanistan and arm it militarily, their economy will grow, our influence will disappear overnight. That's when it's going to be a real issue for Pakistan. 2 front war could be likely on the East and the West.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Strange...yesterday PTI announced election today TTP activated its terrorism

What is so strage?

Both are working for India.

The Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) on Monday called off the ceasefire agreed with the government in June and ordered its militants to stage attacks across the country, according to a statement from the group.

“As military operations are ongoing against mujahideen in different areas […] so it is imperative for you to carry out attacks wherever you can in the entire country,” the statement, which is available with Dawn.com, said while addressing its militants.

The decision, it stated, was taken after “a series of non-stop attacks were launched by the military organisations in Bannu’s Lakki Marwat district”.

The banned group said it had repeatedly warned the people of Pakistan and “continued to be patient so that the negotiation process is not sabotaged at least by us.”

“But the army and intelligence agencies did not stop and continued the attacks […] now our retaliatory attacks will also start across the country,” the statement claimed.

The government and intelligence agencies are yet to comment on the matter.

Talks between Pakistani officials and the militant outfit first started in October last year but broke down in December.

These later resumed in May this year. The process, however, broke down once again due to a deadlock on the revocation of the merger of erstwhile tribal areas with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

Subsequently, attacks by the TTP have been on the rise since September after the group’s ceasefire with the army ended. Most of the attacks have happened in and around Dera Ismail Khan, Tank, South Waziristan, and North Waziristan districts in KP.

In October, the Ministry of Interior had warned that more than year-long peace negotiations between the TTP and the government of Pakistan “had come to a standstill”, which had led to unease within the TTP’s ranks.

It had noted that the TTP accuses the Pakistani government of failing to fulfill its main demand — the reversal of the merger of former Fata with KP — as well as continuing to detain TTP members while a truce was still being negotiated.

The ministry had also highlighted the risk of TTP sub-groups defecting to the militant Islamic State (ISKP) or joining hands with the Hafiz Gul Bahadur group to resume terrorist activities.

Meanwhile, in a press conference earlier this month, Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto Zardari had called for the government to revisit its strategy to deal with the militant outfit.

“It is time to review decisions we took or we were made to take with regards to internal security and terrorism,” he had said.

Bilawal had also maintained that there was nothing wrong in admitting that “we were wrong about a few things and right about some other things and re-examine our approach”.

TTP ends ceasefire with govt, orders its militants to 'carry out attacks in entire country'

Says decision was taken after its members were targeted in a "series of non-stop attacks" in Bannu's Lakki Marwat district.

www.dawn.com

The best way to handle TTP is to hit India hard in IOK.