TTP bases hit with artillery in Kunar by Pak Army

[Mirzali Khan]

Now wait for "Akhpal margaray" brigade to cry rape.

Jihadi and Waziri/PTM brigade

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Hit by artillery? So their bases are like few kilometers away in line of sight of Pakistan border out in the open? Like right across the border seriously?

A100 MLRS can hit up to 100 km.

 

[Pak Nationalist]

There's a lot more happening than being reported, remember the arrest of some 24 BLA scumbags in Afghanistan.... Do people think it was a Taliban operation... Apparently US assets monitored even PAF aircraft active during this operation.
As our friend @Rafi would say.... Nuff said.

They were released in a couple of days. Were suspected of having Daish sympathies.

 

[ziaulislam]

Should it matter to us if TB have support in Afghanistan or not? All we care about is them not attacking us. If they attack us, our attack will be 10 times worse. They'll think twice before attacking us.

It does..manpowet..killing innocent people gives them manpower for recuirtment

Revenge is stronger then fear..

 

[Mirzali Khan]

With lot of colateral damage
Leading to more support

Choose one drone buy in numbers peoduce ammuntion at home
Its 20 years and PA still confused which drone to operate and which MRAP to buy

Lastly
IMO pakistan should not lobby for IEA unless IEA settle all issues with pakistan
1- settle the boarder officially AGAIN. It should just be reaffirmation not opening the pandora box
2- settle the no terrosim call

If IEA doesnt do this, than its times to bring another proxy..northern allaince should be armed and trained..

Taliban Khan la Taliban o TTP sara meena larey

Da ba na keezey

 

[One_Nation]

Artillery strikes are nothing new. These have been ongoing for the last few decades. During Raheel sharifs tenure there were almost daily A100 rocket strikes into kunar.

For these terrorist we need precision strikes utilizing a combination of UAVs, Surface-Surface missiles, and Fighter jets equipped with precision targetting pods that we have amply available. All these options should be backed by SSG/army raids into afghanistan territories. The military measures will be taken alongside a parallel diplomatic course to convince the IAE to take action against TTP/BLA.

At the same time all of these options would entail a definate loss of life and equipment on our side which we should be prepared for before hand. At the end of the day even if we lose a few dozen tanks, a few jets, and hundreds of men we would save ourselfs from decades of terror that we have suffered the last few decades from continuing into the next few decades.

It should follow an escalation ladder. We start off with UAV strikes via Shahpurs/TB2s/CH4s and minor incursions 30-40km into the border. Keep the terrorist on their toes.

If that does not stop the problem within a few weeks and we continue taking losses we should escalate to launching surface to surface missiles and airstrikes. At least 40-50 strikes on key TTP/BLA targets. If the IAE military elements are found at TTP bases they to shall not be spared and should be targetted by fighter jets. This should continue to be supported by SSG raids into afghanistan.

If the secondary escalation ladder does not work then we utilize the final option which would be to effectively change elements of the taliban regime in power that are anti-pakistan. Many here do not understand that the Taliban is not a unified force and has many factions. Some of these factions are pro-pak and some are anti-pak. We may have no choice but to strike kabul and take out those in leadership that are anti-pak and replace them with pro-pak leaders.

For this Pak would inititate a No Fly Zone over all of Afghanistan. Close all border crossings into afghanistan including trade, commerce, travel, etc... Economically strangulate the Taliban terrorist while launching simultanious air strikes across afghanistan. The PDF would use baburs/fatehs/shaheen 1B to target powerplants, communication centers, IAE military hubs to sow confusion. Simultaneously PDF would have to dedicate a mechanized armoured divison consisting of 300 tanks/1000 IFV/200 MRAP backed by UAVS/Mirages/JF17s/J10C/F16s. The key force would be a SSG battalion backed by an al-khalid tank brigade that would mount a surprise and deep incursion into Kabul itself.

SSG comandos will themselves be dressed in the uniforms of the Bhadri 313 to sow confusion and infiltrate their ranks while delivering the final fatal blow which would be the assasinate/arrest of anti-pak taliban terrorist and replacing them internally with a new regime. As soon as mission is accomplished PDF would retreat back into Pak territories. ANytime during the conflict IAE forces could surrender unconditionally and PDF could retreat. Either way Pakistan would prove its resolve and the IAE would understand that the cost of using its territory against pak would be way to risky due to us targetting their national infrastructure in retaliation.

We have the capabilities in place and have invested billions over decades to go this route but lack the political will to do so.

Artillery strikes are nothing new. These have been ongoing for the last few decades. During Raheel sharifs tenure there were almost daily A100 rocket strikes into kunar.

For these terrorist we need precision strikes utilizing a combination of UAVs, Surface-Surface missiles, and Fighter jets equipped with precision targetting pods that we have amply available. All these options should be backed by SSG/army raids into afghanistan territories. The military measures will be taken alongside a parallel diplomatic course to convince the IAE to take action against TTP/BLA.

At the same time all of these options would entail a definate loss of life and equipment on our side which we should be prepared for before hand. At the end of the day even if we lose a few dozen tanks, a few jets, and hundreds of men we would save ourselfs from decades of terror that we have suffered the last few decades from continuing into the next few decades.

It should follow an escalation ladder. We start off with UAV strikes via Shahpurs/TB2s/CH4s and minor incursions 30-40km into the border. Keep the terrorist on their toes.

If that does not stop the problem within a few weeks and we continue taking losses we should escalate to launching surface to surface missiles and airstrikes. At least 40-50 strikes on key TTP/BLA targets. If the IAE military elements are found at TTP bases they to shall not be spared and should be targetted by fighter jets. This should continue to be supported by SSG raids into afghanistan.

If the secondary escalation ladder does not work then we utilize the final option which would be to effectively change elements of the taliban regime in power that are anti-pakistan. Many here do not understand that the Taliban is not a unified force and has many factions. Some of these factions are pro-pak and some are anti-pak. We may have no choice but to strike kabul and take out those in leadership that are anti-pak and replace them with pro-pak leaders.

For this Pak would inititate a No Fly Zone over all of Afghanistan. Close all border crossings into afghanistan including trade, commerce, travel, etc... Economically strangulate the Taliban terrorist while launching simultanious air strikes across afghanistan. The PDF would use baburs/fatehs/shaheen 1B to target powerplants, communication centers, IAE military hubs to sow confusion. Simultaneously PDF would have to dedicate a mechanized armoured divison consisting of 300 tanks/1000 IFV/200 MRAP backed by UAVS/Mirages/JF17s/J10C/F16s. The key force would be a SSG battalion backed by an al-khalid tank brigade that would mount a surprise and deep incursion into Kabul itself.

SSG comandos will themselves be dressed in the uniforms of the Bhadri 313 to sow confusion and infiltrate their ranks while delivering the final fatal blow which would be the assasinate/arrest of anti-pak taliban terrorist and replacing them internally with a new regime. As soon as mission is accomplished PDF would retreat back into Pak territories. ANytime during the conflict IAE forces could surrender unconditionally and PDF could retreat. Either way Pakistan would prove its resolve and the IAE would understand that the cost of using its territory against pak would be way to risky due to us targetting their national infrastructure in retaliation.

We have the capabilities in place and have invested billions over decades to go this route but lack the political will to do so.

You are severely confused about the nature of threat from Afghanistan. All that action over a desert land run by rag tag groups where there is nothing to destroy.

I am pretty sure Pakistan has enough leverage to get things done in Afghanistan in a different way.
Pakistan's game has just started and Pakistan has many options available.

These rag groups on their own are nothing without Pakistan. Iran or another country could sweep them out within months.

 

[arjunk]

Afghans will be Afghans, no matter what faction. They have opposed the existence of Pakistan since day 1 and have done everything in their power from invasions to assasinations to sponsoring terrorism to get rid of us. It's fair game they get a taste of their own medicine, because clearly they're more interested in attacking Pakistan than running a functioning country.

 

[Zarrar Alvi]

Not the first time and not the Last time. Back in 2015 and again in 2018 we Infiltrated Volunteer fighters Into Kunar and ambushed these TTP bases and their Supply routes. And I am damn sure if the fight is inside the Afghan land then those are the Fighters from Lashkar or Al Badar 313 they are anti TTP.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Not the first time and not the Last time. Back in 2015 and again in 2018 we Infiltrated Volunteer fighters Into Kunar and ambushed these TTP bases and their Supply routes. And I am damn sure if the fight is inside the Afghan land then those are the Fighters from Lashkar or Al Badar 313 they are anti TTP.

why would they hate ttp? there's no reason for this "beef"

 

[Zarrar Alvi]

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why would they hate ttp? there's no reason for this "beef"

They are Pro State they don't hate the Pak State but yes they are hardcore anti Indians all the major attacks on Indian installations in Afghanistan and in Kashmir are done by these Fighters and anyone who attacks Pak Army or Pak State is on the Hit list of these Fighters so TTP is currently on their Hit List. Their Leaders even gave Fatwa against TTP.

 

[Zarrar Alvi]

Their was a video which I posted back in 2019 on twitter Lashkar fighters mounting a assault on TTP fighters in Kunar and also In Nooristan. The same group was Droned by the CIA when they were about to close in on the TTP leadership. 46 fighters were Martyred in that USA drone strikes.

 

[TheSolution]

They are Pro State they don't hate the Pak State but yes they are hardcore anti Indians all the major attacks on Indian installations in Afghanistan and in Kashmir are done by these Fighters and anyone who attacks Pak Army or Pak State is on the Hit list of these Fighters so TTP is currently on their Hit List. Their Leaders even gave Fatwa against TTP.

Is this group still up and running?

Their was a video which I posted back in 2019 on twitter Lashkar fighters mounting a assault on TTP fighters in Kunar and also In Nooristan. The same group was Droned by the CIA when they were about to close in on the TTP leadership. 46 fighters were Martyred in that USA drone strikes.

Why not wait till they take out the leadership first? Was that not possible?

Since weren't they trying to get rid of the Taliban also

 

[Vapnope]

Drone strikes create more fear and we use definitely use this option as well. IEA can take a back seat now

 

[Goritoes]

Drones use mat kerna please, woh tu show sha ke liye hote hai ya kisi General ki beti ki shaadi ka reception shoot ker lena un se

 

[Areesh]

That’s false. Taliban offered Osama to USA if they could prove he was responsible for 9/11 or if they would accept to try him in a shariah court.

Video 1 of Taliban wanting to put Osama on trail in shariah court:

Video 2 of Bush denying to let Osama be put on trail:

Video 3 of Taliban press conference asking for Osama to be put on trail and trailed fairly in court and punished fairly if responsible:

Video 4 once again Taliban willing to put him on trail even after concluding there isn’t enough evidence to say he’s guilty:

Also Taliban offered Saudi to take Osama as well.
When usa started bombing Afghanistan then Taliban refused to hand him over. Usa was the aggressor

Yeah I know that Taliban offered all the stuff as you said

But now I don't believe in Taliban and their "offers". They are bunch of liars. They are also offering that Afghan land won't be used against any country but we can already see how true this offer is