Truth of Raja Porus And Alexander the great battle

[PakFactor]

The problem with modern western "historians" is that for them,every close friendship in the ancient world,has to be a "gay relationship". The idea of men having dear friends and caring for their friends is something perverted to them. They want everyone to be gay and try to give an image of homosexuality and perversion being a dominant element in old cultures like ancient Greece,ancient Rome,Japan etc.

I feel there is more emphasis on the sexuality of historical figures in revisionism, especially as you pointed out that LGBTQ+ is taking center stage and justifying it.

 

[LeGenD]

The problem with modern western "historians" is that for them,every close friendship in the ancient world,has to be a "gay relationship". The idea of men having dear friends and caring for their friends is something perverted to them. They want everyone to be gay and try to give an image of homosexuality and perversion being a dominant element in old cultures like ancient Greece,ancient Rome,Japan etc.

Absolutely.

LGBTQ+ degenerates tend to assume that everybody was like them in ancient times and their way of life is natural. Hollywood and Netflix appeal to these degenerates by depicting LGBTQ+ ancient world.

Revisionist liars and manipulators.

 

[Foinikas]

Absolutely.

LGBTQ+ degenerates tend to assume that everybody was like them in ancient times and their way of life is natural. Hollywood and Netflix appeal to these degenerates by depicting LGBTQ+ ancient world.

Liars and manipulators.

I used to have some articles or videos talking about them and why they are obsessed,but I either lost them with my old HDD or can't find them. I'll look again and post here.

Some interesting articles though with a fast search

Thought Ancient Greece was a gay utopia? Think again

Everything you think you know about Ancient Greece might be wrong.

www.thepinknews.com

Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - One Big Lie?

You may have heard that homosexuality was celebrated in ancient Greece more than any other place and time. Some scholars have even called ancient Athens a gay paradise, where same-sex romance flourished without discrimination and prejudice.

www.ancient-origins.net

And this guy says it very well here too

 

[Paji]

The problem with modern western "historians" is that for them,every close friendship in the ancient world,has to be a "gay relationship". The idea of men having dear friends and caring for their friends is something perverted to them. They want everyone to be gay and try to give an image of homosexuality and perversion being a dominant element in old cultures like ancient Greece,ancient Rome,Japan etc.

There is historical literature from contemporary Greek sources that at least in some of the Greek city states like Thebes and Sparta, soldiers would be paired up with their lovers, suggesting homoerotic attraction if not a homosexual relationship. Alexander was from Macedonia, so I am not sure if the practice was prevalent in his army, but the speculation is not completely without basis

 

[Foinikas]

There is historical literature from contemporary Greek sources that at least in some of the Greek city states like Thebes and Sparta, soldiers would be paired up with their lovers, suggesting homoerotic attraction if not a homosexual relationship. Alexander was from Macedonia, so I am not sure if the practice was prevalent in his army, but the speculation is not completely without basis

No,especially in Sparta the laws against homosexuality were extremely strict. And the Sacred Band of Thebes was nothing like what some modern "historians" describe as "gay couples fighting together". It's beyond ridiculous.

CHAP. XII.

Of Friendship amongst the Lacedemonians.7

Friendship among the Spartans was truly innocent : if any thing unlawful happened, both persons must either forsake their Country or their lives.

(Claudius Aelianus)

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Maximus of Tyre stresses:

"One Spartan admires a teenager Lakon(someone from Lakonia),but he admires him only as a beautiful statue and the one(admires)the many and the many(admire)the one.Because the bodily pleasure that comes from hybris is not allowed between them."

Also about the Atheneans:

Τhe laws of Solon and homosexuality in ancient Greece

Homosexuality in Ancient Greece always remains a hot topic, still searching for a convincing answer.

www.greecehighdefinition.com

Victims of the above misunderstanding were the ancient Athenians, who were often reproached for their sexual preferences, giving the impression that Athens was a city where homosexuality flourished undisturbed.

The truth is far from the above position according to Xenophon.

The ancient Athenians not only did not encourage homosexuality but had taken a number of measures to protect the young Athenians, as the orator Aeschines informs us.

In the speech "Against Timarchus", the famous orator mentions in detail all the measures that the ancient "legislator" had taken to protect the virtue of the young Athenian men.



Laws for young boys

First, he mentions the rule that schools must not open before sunrise or remain open after sunset since darkness is an ally of those who are interested in young boys (According to Timarchus 9-10). There are also restrictions on visiting the gymnasiums where the young Athenians exercised naked.

In the event that a boy's parent sold him for money, any Athenian citizen could publicly denounce him. The punishment for such an offense was the release of the child from the obligation to care for his parent in old age, who had sold him in for money (according to Timarchus 13).

The law, however, was much harsher than those who promoted it. They were punished by death if they betrayed the sexuality of children of free citizens (According to Timarchus 14, 184).

Laws against homosexual activities
The Athenians, showing their sensitivity to this serious issue, had provided a series of punishments for almost all offenses related to homosexual relations:
If a slave molested a free boy, he was punished by a public flogging of fifty strikes(according to Timarchus 139).
In cases of rape, the victim could report the offender and receive a fine, which the offender would pay to both the victim and the state.
In cases of fornication, any Athenian citizen could file a public complaint against the offender, and the court, judging on a case-by-case basis, would impose the appropriate punishment (According to Timarchou 15).

Legal sanctions for homosexuals
Citing legal provisions attributed to Solon, the famous ancient legislator, Aeschines blatantly refutes the myth of homosexuality in ancient Athens.
The penalties provided by Athenian legislation for those who engage in homosexual relations are as follows:
He is not allowed to become a member of the 9 lords.
He is not allowed to be elected a priest.
He is not allowed to be an ombudsman.
He is not allowed to exercise power inside or outside Athens.
He is not allowed to be sent out as a war preacher.
He is not allowed to express an opinion.
He is not allowed to enter (public) Temples.
He is not permitted to be awarded at coronations.
He is not permitted to enter the sanctuary of the market.
So anyone convicted of being a homosexual but acting contrary to the provisions of the law is punishable by death!

 

[ProudThamizhan]

The problem with modern western "historians" is that for them,every close friendship in the ancient world,has to be a "gay relationship". The idea of men having dear friends and caring for their friends is something perverted to them. They want everyone to be gay and try to give an image of homosexuality and perversion being a dominant element in old cultures like ancient Greece,ancient Rome,Japan etc.

true.

They may be mixing up Roman characteristics (many of the Roman emperors and even commoners) did not really care who they intercoursed with. Rome, Romantics and Latin thought influenced western thinking

 

[SecularNationalist]

second,a man who willingly marries more than two women isn't possibly interested in men.

Dude learn something about our Kpk province No generalization here but such cases do exist. There is a mentality among men in different cultures where they see women as a breeding machine more rather than seeing them romantically or sexually.

Ancient Persian women are noted for their beauty.

They still are.

 

[Foinikas]

Dude learn something about our Kpk province No generalization here but such cases do exist. There is a mentality among men in different cultures where they see women as a breeding machine more rather than seeing them romantically or sexually.

What's going on there?

 

[SecularNationalist]

What's going on there?

@Imran Khan tell him khan sahab

 

[El Sidd]

The problem with modern western "historians" is that for them,every close friendship in the ancient world,has to be a "gay relationship". The idea of men having dear friends and caring for their friends is something perverted to them. They want everyone to be gay and try to give an image of homosexuality and perversion being a dominant element in old cultures like ancient Greece,ancient Rome,Japan etc.

These are documented events in history not people's imagination. What do you think a Greek cruise is all about? Learning about prime numbers?

 

[Foinikas]

These are documented events in history not people's imagination. What do you think a Greek cruise is all about? Learning about prime numbers?

And yet you haven't read the posts above. You just say something vague and troll again.

 

[El Sidd]

Can you be more vague?

You could have been more subtle in your reinvention of Greek history.

 

[Foinikas]

You could have been more subtle in your reinvention of Greek history.

You completely ignored the above posts and sources and just say something dumb.

What are you even doing on this forum?

 

[El Sidd]

You completely ignored the above posts and sources and just say something dumb.

Maybe it was so rampant that they made laws about it?

 

[Foinikas]

Maybe it was so rampant that they made laws about it?

So people have to make laws only when something is rampant? Not to prevent it becoming rampant?

Again,you're being vague without any strong arguments. Your only arguments are the rumors and stereotypes created by Hollywood and pro-gay "historians".